Down under"Well if I played high schools teams I would ranked
high too. Wait until Wilson plays a real team and we will see the number take a
nose dive."I hope every Utah State football player sees that
silly statement and posts it in the locker room for even more motivation come
October 4th. Better yet, I hope all byU football players believe that silly
statement. CK will make mince meat of your secondary both with his feet and
with his arm.Go Utes!! Go Aggs!!
Cougsndawgs:I tried to send in a response to your post responding to
my post (I'm dizzy now). For some reason, my post didn't get past the
censors. Anyway, as intelligent as my thoughts are (and they are very
intelligent, I might add), Deseret News doesn't want to post them. So let
me just say - if the Deseret News will allow it - good luck to your Cougs on the
21st. I hope it is a hard fought game on both sides of the trenches. Obviously
I think and believe my Utes will come out on top once again. I hope that Hill
can find his passing game and that he is very successful, even if it begins with
Utah. I would rather we beat a team at it's best.Go Utes!
Onward and Upward.
"And you want to proudly pound your chest over blah blah blah..."What of anything I said is considered "chest-pounding"? Utah did
what they were supposed to do. Nothing more, nothing less. You get further and
further away from the point with every nonsensical argument.
@StGtoSLC"...Let me spell this out for you. Weber wears ugly
purple unis."Um...Weber wore white uniforms last Saturday
against the Utes, but thanks for spelling it out for me. "Weber
is not a good football team when compared to Utah."Of course
they aren't...Utah has an athletic budget of over $36 million dollars, a
$32 million dollar football practice facility, and the Utah athletics department
is chipping in another $50 million of the $150 million it's planning to
raise with another $50 million coming in from Pac-12 revenues.And
you want to proudly pound your chest over the superiority of Utah football over
a small football school in Ogden with a paltry athletic budget and debate ugly
@Max for President5 things we learn about BYU from re-watching the
Texas game:1- Stacking the Box won't work against this BYU offense.
Carefully watch the 3rd quarter. This is exactly what Texas switches to and
Taysom, Cody and Ross punish them for 83 yds in 4 min. Think Hill can't
pass? Think again.-----------Think again, that is
absolutely impossible considering Tysom had only 67 total yards in the entire
2nd half:1st Half: 4/17 62 YDS 0 TD 1 INT2nd Half: 5/9
67 YDS 0 TD 0 INTHere's all the 2nd half drives where Hill
threw a pass:3rd and 3 at BYU 28 Hill pass complete 31 yards1st and 10 at TEX 41 Hill pass complete for 8 yards1st and 10 at TEX 26
Hill pass incomplete2nd and 15 at TEX 31 Hill pass complete for 5 yards1st and 10 at BYU 46 Hill pass complete for 122nd and 8 at TEX 18
Hill pass incomplete3rd and 8 at TEX 18 Hill pass incomplete1st and 10 at TEX 26 Hill pass complete for 11 yards3rd and 12 at
BYU 44 Hill pass incomplete
@BYU sports on TV in Missouri.Sure Hill's passing stats are not
great. So what. Hill led BYU to a big time win. ----------What about the great loss? Maybe you only not get BYU wins on TV in Missouri?
Max for PREZ.....Texas is no good and I wouldn't be surprised if they only
won 6 or 7 games this year. Also, Hill can run but he is the worst D1 thrower
out there... Good luck with all of that!
@ Clark GAre you serious Clark? Keeton has played well against every
bcs team he played in his career: Auburn, Wisconsin and utah (*2)... I bet if
Chuckie wanted to transfer he could go nearly anywhere he wanted. I'm glad
he's an aggie.
VegasUte:There are flaws in your argument against Hoffmans stats. Would
you throw the ball to him on every down if you're gashing a defense for
8-10 yards a carry? Yeah, I wouldn't either. The point I'm making is
that Hoffman made 2 great grabs when Texas was loading the box...against BETTER
corners than Utah has, by far. Chuckie lit Utah's secondary up...I
wouldn't be talking about BYUs secondary when Utah's doesn't look
any better.Second...you act as if Utah has no weaknesses
offensively. Let me say, their running game and RBs will put the fear into NO
ONE. Without JWIV the running game looks very weak. You don't think BYUs
defense will exploit that? Anotherr part of the passing game that you've
obviously not addressed is pressure on the QB...BYU will bring it better than
what Utah has faced so far. We shall see how Wilson deals with it. And
Utah's secondary as I've already stated isn't anything to write
home about. Both UVA and Texas had better secondaries than Utah. Again, I
believe Hoffman can exploit that IMO.
5 things we learn about BYU from re-watching the Texas game:1- Stacking
the Box won't work against this BYU offense. Carefully watch the 3rd
quarter. This is exactly what Texas switches to and Taysom, Cody and Ross punish
them for 83 yds in 4 min. Think Hill can't pass? Think again.2-
BYU's offensive is dangerous. Manny Diaz's firing was reactionary
politics. Major Applewood's offense saw KVN and co. terrorize David Ash for
4 quarters. If the DC deserved firing, so did the OC.3- Passing underneath
will be extremely hard against BYU. BYU's secondary is shockingly solid.
3rd and 4th quarter Texas tried repeatedly take shots within the cushion
underneath and deep. Sorensen and co broke-up and batted down multiple shots.
Dominant. 4- Go Fast, Go Hard is legit. 99 plays. Texas was gassed by 1/2
time. By 4thQ their D line was bickering, lining up wrong and bewildered.
It's too fast to substitute and excruciating. 5ys ago a whole game was 50
plays. Lasike, Williams and Hill are freakishly fit, and fuel a relentless
pounding. 5- Make no mistake. Texas didn't loose, BYU beat
them--broke their backs in every phase.
I'm sorry. These comments just always seem to be the same attacks back and
forth.Chuckie is the best by far. Also has played the most.Wilson
is doing amazing and will continue to improve. Even again Pac 12Hill is a
great runner. If you know football at all. Then you know
discounting what Wilson did against Weber St. is Lame. He got pulled in the 1st
half and still scored 5TDS!!!!! 5!!! If your going to talk about
the competition of Utah..the same can be said about BYU. I'm sorry to say
this...but Texas was only ranked in the top 15 because their name is Texas. I
am betting they don't finish in the top 50. Rankings shouldn't even
come out for the first 5 games! IMO. I will tell you one thing! I
would love to have Tysom behind Chuckie in the back field as a RB! He is
amazingly fast and strong.Go Aggies!
Cougsndawgs"Texas did that a couple of times remember? How did
that work out..."Two passes for a combined 60 yards and no
touchdowns - Hoffman's season stats. That is nothing really to write home
about. Against USU, Utah had two WRs with catches of over 50 yards each against
a far superior secondary than byU has. So, forgive me if I don't seem very
impressed with Hoffman's season stats, because I am not."And the utes will face the best defense they've faced all year in
Provo abt a week and a half from now."We will face one of the
best linebacking corps we will face all year, but will face probably the most
inexperienced, undermanned secondaries in the nation. Since Wilson has already
proven that he is accurate with the pass, and Hill has proven he is woefully
lacking, Utah will exploit byU's weakness, but byU won't be able to
exploit Utah's. Two thirty yard passes to Hoffman will not be nearly
enough to beat Utah.Go Utes!! Bring on the Holy War!! 4-0; 8-3 at
True Blue: the color of blueish-purple Kool-Aid infused tears flowing freely at
LES, after a career sweep for the Ute seniors!And don't forget,
Kool-Aid Man has always been Crimson Red! "Oh, yeah!"Go
Complimentary: "Yeah, keep thinking that way!"Haha why
shouldn't they? What impact will it have on the game if they think that way
and are wrong? I've never heard a coach in a press conference after a loss
say something like, "Well, our fans all thought that all we had to do was
stop the run and we'd shut down their offense, so this loss is really on
them. Despite my players' years of experience and 20 hours of preparation
this week for this game, and all of my staff's countless hours of film
study and scouting reports, we went ahead and read a few online comments and
based our gameplan off of that."
Solution,"Taysom was doing well his freshman year, and he was
doing great during camp. He has a bad case of the jitters, but he will correct
them."If there is one thing we can count on when BYU plays Utah,
its error free football and mental composure, right?
wwookie:"Hilll has "minor" problems throwing the ball? You
think they're easily corrected? Or are you trying to discredit everything
you've ever said? Pretty sure Hill wasn't trying to "correct"
those problems over the last 7 months...."Whether you like it or
not, aiming the ball & rushing passes are minor, correctable issues. Some of
it has to do with nerves, some of it has to do with an inexperienced O-line that
has Taysom rushing passes instead of settling and setting his feet. How in the
world does that discredit other things I've said? I've said he has a
slower release but in college you can get away with that more than the
pros...just ask Wilson, who has one of the slowest ugliest sidearm releases
I've seen this side of Jordan Wynn. Taysom just needs to settle down and
stop trying to throw rockets and aiming the ball. His release needs work as well
as some of his mechanics, but at this level those aren't as big an issue
(see Tim Tebow). As The Solution pointed out, he had no accuracy issues in 2013
and IMO it was because he wasn't rushing.
Weber grad: "Oh, now it’s the other team’s ugly purple uniforms
that make him such a football king slayer."Where in my response
did I say that? That seems like your own intellectual ability making that
correlation. Let me spell this out for you. Weber wears ugly purple unis. Weber
is not a good football team when compared to Utah, and Travis torched them.
These statements are inconsequential of each other.I'd love for
Travis to consistently have games like he has so far this year, one against a
good team, one against a lesser team. Will each and every game have similar
production from him? Most likely not. But he's already shown he can throw
successful games against the PAC, so your prediction of his downfall just looks
Chuckie has been amazing ever since his first game as a freshman. One of those
rare players that can carry a team. I want to thank the cougars for sealing the
deal with Keeton for USU.The last time the y played in Cache Valley
Chuckie was visiting as a recruit. When he saw the Aggies dominate the entire
game and as Keeton witnessed the great crowd reaction he was sold. It will be fun to have the y return next month.
One last thing. The accuracy issues have been a recent development. Taysom was
doing well his freshman year, and he was doing great during camp.He
has a bad case of the jitters, but he will correct them.
U 90: I concur with what you said, with one correction. Most of Hills
inaccurate passes have been high and right, going long not short. Yes there
have been some short, low passes, but most bad passes have been overthrown.This is important because it is easier to correct overthrown
inaccuracies than it is to fix arm strength.
ekUte: Our Heisman winning QB spent 14 years in the NFL. He wasn't played
because he was too small, but they had to keep him around because he was/is a QB
genius. He is currently coaching a Texas high school team and he regularly
makes appearances at BYU events. Your comments are wrong and way off base.
AgVikBronc,As a Ute fan, and trying not to hate on the Cougars as that
isnt healthy, I was glad to watch Hill have a career day. Do I want him to have
another a week from Saturday? Of course not, and I don't necessarily want
to see BYU do super well, because that gives Y fans big heads, and as a rival,
that annoys me. But, as it's just a game and people are more important
than that, I want to see BYU be successful.My concern for Hill is that his
performance is unsustainable. I think Hill is a formidable runner, but that
Texas game was quite flukey. I say that because I dont think their will be many
teams that ill prepared against the Cougars. A solid game plan and Hill will be
largely contained, as he is not nearly as skilled as a runner as Keaton imo.
The problem is that he isnt enough of a passing threat. Although, I think his
level of suckiness in the throw game is also unsustainable. He is bound to
improve, but I dont think he will be a threat throwing come the 21st.Go
@ Down Under"Well if I played high schools teams I would ranked
high too" Taysom Hill will get his chance playing two high
school teams on Sept. 27 (Middle Tennessee) and November 16th (Idaho State).
Maybe he'll have better success throwing the ball against those high school
teams, since he obviously can't throw the ball on "real teams". "Wait until Wilson plays a real team and we will see the number take
a nose dive"The same can be said about Chuckie Keeton and Taysom
Hill! Let's see them lead their teams playing a BCS conference schedule.
You can bet their numbers will take a nose dive.
Uteology and Christy B and all other proud utes: I love the way you guys think
and I hope you continue to think that way, that Taysom can't pass, that
he's one-dimensional, that the utes will simply stop the run and win
easily, that you can leave your secondary to play one on one with Cody and
Skyler etc. Yeah, keep thinking that way!
@ wwookie:The Kool Aid some of us have been drinking is indeed
really good. And yes, we are drinking up... thank you.You should try
some.It's the kind that turns any red drink blue on it's way
down. And man, is it ever refreshing!It might even make you into a
real believer in True Blue.And if that doesn't, the game in 10 days
@ ekute:It sounds like you're saying that the Utes won't
be playing at all a week from this Saturday. That must mean you are
planning on them just rolling over and playing dead.Either that, or
you're saying that BYU is greater than an ordinary "real" team and
that the Utes are scared of them.But either way... Come on man, show a
little confidence in your Utes!We both know BYU will be beating them, but
it won't be as bad as you're making it out to be.
Down under, The Utes will play a real team this Saturday and then
another one 2 weeks from Saturday.
Wow Cougsndawgs, really?Hilll has "minor" problems throwing
the ball? You think they're easily corrected? Or are you trying to
discredit everything you've ever said? Pretty sure Hill wasn't trying
to "correct" those problems over the last 7 months....Kool
Aid must be good, drink up.
Every one of you guys on here bashing the guy from the other team are all just a
bunch of liars if you can say you weren't cheering on the Cougars as Hill
had a career day and the Y thumped Texas. It's good for all three teams
when they all win and it's good for the state. With Hoffman and Apo on the
outside, there aren't many teams in the nation that will try and stack the
box against BYU to sell out on the run.As in the USU/UofU game I am not
bold enough to try and predict a winner in any of the in-state matchups this
year, I believe all three games can (could have) go either way. Any one on here
who says their team will win with 100% confidence is delirious (uh hem, Chris
B)Stats don't lie, Keeton and Wilson are beasts and Hill is pretty
darn tough too. As for now, Keeton gets the nod will Wilson as a close second
"...he's shown he can throw them against good teams as well as he has
awful teams in ugly purple uniforms."Oh, now it’s the
other team’s ugly purple uniforms that make him such a football king
slayer. Gotta love some of these Ute fans like StGtoSLC with their superior
intellectual skills that allows such cerebral giants to make such a
correlation.Good enough...let's just wait and see how he stacks
up after Pac 12 play this year, ugly uniforms and all.
Down under: "Well if I played high schools teams I would ranked high"How did you not win the job over Riley last year then?
Weber State Graduate: "Let's see Wilson's stats against schools
like Oregon, UCLA, Arizona, and Stanford before the chest thumping begins about
how great Wilson is."Vs. Arizona: 28-40, 311 yards, 2 TDs, 0
INTVs. UCLA: 23-33, 220 yards, 1 INT (was forced to come off field for
Hays' TD pass for having his helmet knocked off after carrying the ball to
the 1 yard line the previous play)That was last year with less
experience and less polish in a less productive offense. Accurate passes are
accurate passes, regardless of opponent. Be as ignorant as you want to it, but
he's shown he can throw them against good teams as well as he has awful
teams in ugly purple uniforms.
Well if I played high schools teams I would ranked high too. Wait until Wilson
plays a real team and we will see the number take a nose dive.
I don't think its a coincidence that the author listed them in the order of
"Keeton, Wilson and Hill" in the title of the article. Just Saying.
@Henry Drummond"It seems there should be some accounting for
"strength of the offensive line." Both Utah and Utah State keep their
Quarterbacks standing on two feet a lot more than BYU's. I suspect that
Hill's passing would improve considerably if he didn't have as much
company in the backfield from the opposing team."Taysom Hill has
been sacked 3 times this year for a loss of 15 yardsTravis Wilson has been
sacked 3 times this year for a loss of 19 yardsChuckie Keeton has been
sacked 3 times this year for a loss of 24 yardsI fail to see your
Wilson seems like the real deal. How cool that all three of the "big 3"
have high caliber QBs this season. I have a question. When someone
posts five of the first ten posts, and most of those posts say essentially the
same thing, and all of those posts could fit into one post (word count-wise),
wouldn't that be considered spam and violate the DNews posting policy?
Hill is rushing his throws and aiming the football at times which accounts a
great deal for his inaccuracy. These are both minor issues and can be corrected.
His passing effeciancy will improve as the season progresses. I'm just
looking forward to Utah putting their 5,9 CB in man coverage with Cody Hoffman
in an effort to load the box. Texas did that a couple of times remember? How did
that work out...2 long pass plays where Hill threw it up there and Hoffman went
up and got it. Btw I would take Texas' 4&5 star corners (both 2 yr
starters and not rookies) over Utah's anyday. Please Utah...load the box,
it will give Hill more passing yards and Hoffman closer to breaking all those
receiving records. And the utes will face the best defense
they've faced all year in Provo abt a week and a half from now. The only
defense they face all year that will even compare is Stanford. I think Wilson is
going to have as many nightmares of KVN as David Ash...you can mark that down.
Chris BSteve Young:1981, going a combined 48 of 80 passing
against Utah State and UNLV, while throwing five interceptions and just two
touchdownsHe was 2-2 in his first four starts as a BYU quarterback,
completing 57 percent of his passes and throwing 12 interceptions to just five
touchdowns.And yet he turned into a great QB.
Chris B"I'd challenge you to fine a single "great"
QB in the history of football who had the worst passing efficiency rating after
2 weeks."Steve Young.
TysjlBYU has better athletes than Air Force and a much better
ekuteBYU's Heisman-winning QB was under-sized for the NFL, but
even so, he started 25 and played in 54 games over an 8-year NFL career, which
dwarfs Utah's Sugar Bowl-winning QB who wasn't even good enough to
make an NFL roster.As an NFL QB, Detmer completed 546 of 946 passes
(57.7%) for 6,351 yards and 34 TDs.Not bad for a quarterback who
supposedly "couldn't cut it in the NFL".
I expect Wilson's statistics to go down significantly after entering PAC 12
play. After all, bragging about and including stats from a game where they beat
up on a small school from Ogden with a football budget millions of dollars less
that the Utes hardly counts as comparative statistical dominance. Let's see
Wilson's stats against schools like Oregon, UCLA, Arizona, and Stanford
before the chest thumping begins about how great Wilson is.
Today we're all Beavers.Go Cougs! Go Beavers!
And declaring Wisconsin a powerhouse this year is premature. The two pasties
they've played are hardly opponents that you can gauge UW's football
prowess by. UMass won one game last year and only 12 in the the last three years
in a very week conference. Teneessee Tech plays in the OVC and won only three
games last year. I think BYU would look pretty good too if they played these
Wilson may not perform as well once he is introduced to Kyle Van Noy, Bronson
Kaufusi, Eathyn Manumaleuna, Alani Fua, and Uani Unga.
Chuckie is one of the elite in the natian.Travis will lead the Utes to a
winning season and a bowl victory.taysom might be pretty good at tight
end.skywalker,Your Heisman winning quarterback couldn't
cut it in the NFL, hasn't been heard from since he left the y.
SLCWatch:If you are alright to have an Air Force-style run game as
BYU's entire offense, then let me tell you Air Force's record the last
ten years in a moderate MWC (BYU's records in parentheses):2012: 6-7 (8-5)2011: 7-6 (10-3)2010: 9-4 (7-6)2009: 8-5
(11-2)2008: 8-5 (10-3)2007: 9-4 (11-2)2006: 4-8 (11-2)2005: 4-7 (6-6)2004: 5-6 (5-6)2003: 7-5 (4-8)Total 67-47
(83-43)It seems like a step downward to me. The fact is, if BYU
can't figure out their passing problems (Taysom Hill), teams will learn to
stop the run game and force BYU to pass. Don't expect many games like that
(550+ yards rushing) against quality teams the rest of this season.
@ Y Grad/Y Dad"But I think Travis will find BYU's defense
to be more like USU's and less like Weber's"No
problem! Travis Wilson put up 302 yards passing on Utah State's defense
(who returned most of their starters, BTW). Not only that! Wilson with his poise
and leadership led Utah to a come from behind victory to beat the Aggies in the
second half. As good as Chuckie is, it was Wilson that came out victorious! I am
confident that Wilson will beat Hill on the field in two weeks. I'm glad Utah finally has a quality QB! Travis Wilson is going to do
great things on the hill during his career. This offense is going to be exciting
to watch this year. Go Utes!
VegasUte"That's what we hear every year with every QB you
march on the field. How has that worked out for you the last 20 years?"One Heisman Trophy, two Sammy Baugh Trophies (nation's best
passer), two Davey O'Brien Awards (nations best QB), 4 QB's who were
drafted and played in the NFL.What national awards have Utah
quarterbacks won?Your Sugar Bowl winning QB wasn't even good
enough to make an NFL roster.btw, Heaps left on his own accord; he
certainly wasn't "run out of town". He benched himself through his
own inept play and lack of competitiveness.
"The rest of us only count the real wins."And Utah actually
has (plural) wins.
Strange... Not that long ago I was hearing....BYU could not beat ranked
teams... They just didBYU could not beat a team with a big time program...
They just did.BYU could not compete with a team who has recruits with more
stars.... Um.. They just did.BYU coaches are not good enough.... other
team fired a coach after they got beat....shows who was out coached....Sure Hill's passing stats are not great. So what. Hill led BYU to a big
time win. I am sure anyone could find plenty games where a QB had better stats
and the team lost. I know that Utah fans like to count moral victories as
wins....The rest of us only count the real wins.
Wilson is the best in the state right now because he beat up on a patsy FCS
team. It won't last when he starts playing decent teams on the road.
I'll hold with my previous comment: enjoy it while it lasts. I think many
of you, both Aggie and Ute, are grossly underestimating BYU, both offense and
defense. Some will say Hill has to get better at passing, he can't get
worse. I'm saying, Hill will surprise U.
@slcwatch BYUs last few QBs all haven't been able to pass.
Heaps and Nelson were both busts. They were exactly who I said they were, just
like I'm saying hill is. I'm watching the same game the coaches are.
Air Force runs a different offense than byu. Even AF QBs are
hitting more than 40% Hill isn't. USU also just squashed Air Force. Please
run all the time against usu & play to our defensive strengths, I'd
You don't need a rating system to understand that Chuckie is the best QB is
the state, Travis is consistently good and Taysom is a dangerous runner but
still needs to work on accuracy (he mostly throws short). All 3 teams should
feel good about their QB situation.
Henry Drummond,The strength of the offensive line is heavily weighted in
ESPN's QB rating. Basically everything that happens in yards gained or lost
is given a score that is split among the participants of a play.For
example, if a QB is sacked after 2 secs, then the yardage loss (and associated
negative score) is mostly given to the O Line. In comparison, if a QB is sacked
after 8 secs and he's fled the pocket, then most of the negative points go
to the QB.The concepts of this rating system are very easy to
understand but include a lot of complex statistics behind it. It is the
measurement for people like you and I who want to consider all the factors that
hinder or help a QB in rating whether he is good or not. The ESPN
web page has a good explanation of this and you can always google it. Lots of
sports junkies have posted some of the details.
Y Grad / Y Dad:"I'm willing to stay and see how that turns
out."That's what we hear every year with every QB you march
on the field. How has that worked out for you the last 20 years? byU QBs will
get respect from Utah when they earn it on the field. As far as the Texas win
goes, that really would have meant something and been impressive .... IF Hill
hadn't lost to a horrible Virginia team the week before. Your last five
star QB got run out of his own stadium 54-10, remember? But hat's right,
byU never gave Utah any respect for that win because in their minds Utah
didn't win the game."But I think Travis will find
BYU's defense to be more like USU's"Um ... Wilson
already beat USU. Thanks for trying!Go Utes!!
Ifel Of'a-sofa"My money would have them in this order:1 Keeton2 Wilson3 Hill"Right there with you on
that call. I love Wilson and his potential, but Keeton is - hands down - the
best in the state.All the running stats and high school passing
stats can't mask the fact that Hill can't hit the side of a barn.
That was CLEARLY in evidence in the Virginia game. Too bad for Hoffman that he
didn't go pro last year. He has nobody to give him the ball!Go
Utes! Go Ags!
killarney:Wilson's best games are yet to come. You can count on that.
Chris B"If those QB's went on to have great seasons, they
had great seasons because they could THROW and run."two words:
reading comprehensionTaysom Hill is the ONLY QB EVER to lead his
team to 550 yards rushing versus Texas.Those "other" QBs
you've conjured out of thin air, DON'T EXIST!It's
becoming obvious, that the closer we get to the BYU/Utah game, the more frantic
and emotional your denials are becoming.
I have no great powers of prediction or prognostication as some of you have.I am not a Division one coach like some of youbut in a small way I pay
attention to details.The BYU coaches aren't saying alot about
the passing.They are confident in their QB.They aren't calling
for emergency measures.They know things none of us know.I'll remain the optomist.I expect many positive surprises this
season.Oh, and for those who say this trend can't be
sustained...Ever watch the Air Force running game? And we
haven't even seen some of our running backs turned lose yet.
UteologyEast Salt Lake City, UtahAnd others, enjoy it while it
lasts. Yes, Texas may have been over-rated, and yes, management was right to
roll a head, but there's a whole lotta ute head in the sand going on if you
think that somehow all that 4 and 5 star talent counts for nothing. Kinda ironic, seeing as how we've heard a steady drum beat of how
superior Utah athletes are, but now with Texas, that's a non factor. So bring it. Stack 8 or 9 in the box. Overplay the Taysom run threat,
challenge him to throw. I'm willing to stay and see how that turns out.
But I think Travis will find BYU's defense to be more like USU's and
less like Weber's.
It seems there should be some accounting for "strength of the offensive
line." Both Utah and Utah State keep their Quarterbacks standing on two feet
a lot more than BYU's. I suspect that Hill's passing would improve
considerably if he didn't have as much company in the backfield from the
@skywalker,If those QB's went on to have great seasons, they
had great seasons because they could THROW and run.Think any of
those "QB's 5 in the nation in rushing after two weeks" were the
WORST qb in the country in passing efficiency?Not a chance!
Chris BHow many QB's who were 5th in the nation in rushing
after the first two weeks and lead their team to the most rushing yards EVER
given up by Texas, went on to have a great season?We'll have to
see. But those gleefully writing Taysom off may be bitterly disappointed by
killarney,I'd challenge you to fine a single "great" QB
in the history of football who had the worst passing efficiency rating after 2
weeks.Good luck(if you dare look)!
My money would have them in this order:1 Keeton2 Wilson3
HillI have been impressed and surprised by Wilson, he will be good
for Utah in the upcoming years.Hill can run but can't pass, not sure
he has ever hit a receiver in stride.Keeton is the man!
If there is one thing to take away from all these numbers, it's this:Travis Wilson has peaked and his numbers will go down from here.Chucky Keeton will continue strong and will likely end up with the best
numbers at season's end.Taysom Hill's numbers will improve
significantly throughout the season and will likely overtake Wilson for 2nd in
"Currently, he is dead last on the ESPN rating, 138th overall, with a
minus-9.0 rating in pass EPA"LOL, Spin all you wantI
wonder how many QB's who were DEAD LAST through the first two weeks went on
to have great seasons?NONE I'm quite sure.LOL
What?You mean a 33% completion rate isn't good?
10 in nation15 in nation63 in nationSays it allGo UTES
Hill - dead last in passing? Ouch!I love Travis Wilson's
overall potential. This week will go a long way in showing whether his current
scores are warranted. Hill is a great runner and definitely needs
to learn a pass play or two. With the way I saw him run against Texas, it still
blows me away that he lost to Virginia, of all schools. With all of his cards
on the table, all a team needs to do is prepare for the run and they will be
successful against Hill. Hill may prove me wrong, eventually, but I don't
think it will happen any time soon.Chucky impressed me a great deal.
His rating has been earned and will continue to be high. I am just glad that
he is behind us in the schedule and that Wilson got the W in that contest. BYU
will be in for a long day against Chucky with their porous secondary.Go Utes!! Go Ags!
Hill will not likely rush for 259 yards again. The reason for the firing of the
texas dc was not because byu's offense was spectacular. The byu offense as
shown Saturday cannot be sustained over a season. The ute, aggie, and Wisconsin
defenses are all too good to allow Hill to run at will. Hill has to learn to
throw, if he doesn't expect the cougars to lose big in all 3 of those games
and lose other games as well.
"Hill, who has the least starting experience among the three, has the
biggest variation across the board." --DNActually, Tebow-lite
can't pass is the reason for the biggest variation. Considering Wilson who
is less mature (age wise) has only started 4 more games. How do you
go 13/40 against Virginia? Maybe he just can't throw in the rain? I guess
we'll find out over the next few weeks.
Hopefully Taysom can work on getting his timing down with receivers these next
two weeks. Now that they have some game experience and live action they know
what to work on. If he can improve on his passing game there is potential for
him to be a true Dual-Threat QB.