Keys to BYU defeating Utah.1. O-Line must continue to improve.2.
Hill must become more accurate with 10-15 yard pass. He doesn't need to
throw it so hard at that distance but to show some touch.3. Defense must
be able to stop Ute running game and force them to pass. (A one dimensional Utah
offense is good for BYU)4. Defense must put pressure on QB. (They
don't have to sack him but they must be able to knock him down multiple
times.)5. Safeties must help the corners. Linebackers will be able to
create a lot of havoc so safeties can provide assistance.There are
still many questions to be answered for both teams. Nobody really knows how good
or bad these two teams really are. The game on the 21st is going to answer that
question. If BYU O-Line can do it's job and produce holes, it will be a
very long night for Utah fans. If that is the case, Bronco needs to follow the
pattern from movie Remember the Titans. "Run it up Herman. Leave no
@Tilka - It's not about Torque. Actually, you can have disc problems pretty
easily. I learned that the hard way. Williams will be fine. They will treat it
with ice, heat and some other therapy to help the muscles relax. Actually, that
is what causes so much pain. The muscles over react to protect the disc and as a
result, they press down on the spinal cord. That is what causes the pain. Once
the muscles relax, the disc will heal and he'll be fine. I expect him to be
at full strength by game time.
@CougInTX:"Van Noy's term "bloodbath" referred to
the intensity and effort we will see from both teams. He is not predicting what
he thinks BYU will do to Utah."Bloodbath defined: an event or
situation in which many people are killed in a violent manner.While
no player will literally be killed in the game, don't kid yourself by
thinking KVN wouldn't like to try and take out the opposition all by
himself. He's never beaten the Utes, and there's a good chance he
never will. And unfortunately for KVN, there are plenty of Utes players who
would also like to take out KVN and Co. as well. Literal bloodbath, no.
Genuine hatred and angst leading to both teams giving maximum effort on every
single play of the game? Without a doubt. This "bloodbath" is going to
be extremely entertaining!Go Utes!
Ronald UharrietBYU did practice Monday; they simply didn't
start practicing specifically for Utah until Wednesday.
Last Saturday's game vs Texas reminds me of the good ol' days of the
1980's. I was sooooooo proud.It also reminded me of the season we
beat #3 Oklahoma at the Dallas Cowboy's new stadium, only to comehome
and lose to a much lower ranked Florida State.I also remember how we
went to Va. favored by 4, but lost by 3 points.I also remember how #15
Texas came to Provo favored by 7 but lost by 19 points.I totally
understand and appreciate the celebration of that Texas game all day Sunday. I
do not understandwhy we are not working our tails off Monday and Tuesday.
Why are we waiting until Wednesday to practice for the Utah game?We
should look at this Utah game as a real threat underdog that would love to ruin
our season by beating us and put us back on the Va. type low that we experienced
just a couple weeks ago.We can not go into this Utah game knowing
that we will beat them. Instead, we must go into that came prepared to protect
our new high, wich we found in the Texas game last Saturday.
The change in play was remarkable — and quite stark.“It
happens when your players lose their jobs and there’s a sense of
urgency,” Mendenhall saidIt's about darn time players
were held accountable for poor play. Last year it went on for weeks and weeks
with Riley Nelson being the chief Captain of poor play. This year one week was
all it took. Nice to have you back Bronco, we've missed you!
ArgoFYPosterized: "A slang term depicting a play in basketball.
In said play, a player dunks the ball over top or in front of another player,
making a play so picturesque that it may appear on a poster, hence the term,
posterized."While your term does not apply, all Tonga did was
catch a TD pass after pushing off of Van Noy. Should have been offensive PI.Van Noy will be in the NFL next year and will be the highest 2014
drafted player of anybody on the field in Provo on 9/21. Nobody with any
football knowledge disagrees.Van Noy's term "bloodbath"
referred to the intensity and effort we will see from both teams. He is not
predicting what he thinks BYU will do to Utah.
JohnInSLCWhat forgotten years before 1922? Not counting
a spring scrimmage that the Utes claimed was a real game in order to even the
series, BY Academy won the 1896 to 1898 series over Utah 3-2.In the
last 50 years (modern history), BYU has dominated the Utes:Head-to-head: BYU 30, Utah 20Overall: BYU 398-203-4
(66%)Utah 314-257-3 (55%)AP Top 25 Finishes: BYU 17,
Utah 5Coaches Top 25 Finishes: BYU 18, Utah 7If
the utesies were really as "dominant" as they claim to be, they would
have been ranked more often than BYU, right?Top 25 FinishesBronco 5Kyle 3Except for 2004/2008, Utah's
"undefeated" seasons are laughable, ZERO 10-win seasons: 7-0,
5-0-2 (shutout by BYU 0-0), 7-0, 8-0, 6-0-2 (tied by BYU 6-6, shutout by Denver
0-0) BYU has had SIXTEEN 10-win seasons, including ELEVEN 11-win
seasons.Utah has only had SIX 10-win seasons, including only TWO 11-win
seasons.Bronco has had more 11-win seasons since 2006, than the Utes
have had in their entire history.
@chris bI don't know why you belittle WAC programs when the
uties bypass them on their schedule to get Big Sky teams to play... Although the
one WAC team you did play last year ended up embarrassing y'all so I guess
I can see the insecurity being demonstrated...On 9-21-13 LESBYU (1-1) 31 uties (2-1) 10Mark it down.
Chris B. The amazing (and hilarious at the same time) about all of your smack
about BYU being a WAC quality team is that you fail to acknowlege the red
elephant standing on the small podium at the bottom of the PAC12. Utah is a WAC quality team that exists in a AQ conference. Their record
support that statement.
mussing:Nice try; overshadowing Utah's domination since 2002,
and the y's 8 losses to the U in the last 11 years, by going back 50 years.
Every time a y "fan" tries to spin history like that, they are REALLY
talking about half of LaVell's seasons and half of Roscoe's seasons,
which they want to compare to Utah's down decade or two and to last season.
If we look at the first 50 years (to accommodate those sensitive
souls at the y who ignore "The Forgotten Years" before 1922), Utah was
dominant the full 50 years. From 1922 through the 1971 season, BYU's record
was 173-235-26, a 42% winning record, 1 conference championship and no bowl
games. During that same time period, Utah's record was
296-167-21, a 64% winning record, 19 conference championships, and 3 bowl
games.Utah dominated the head-to-head results, 38-5-4.Yes, that 1984 y team that backed into a national championship is hard for Ute
fans to take. But that was the only undefeated season the y has had in its
entire history. Utah has had 4 in since 1922, 2 in the last 10 years.
@mussingaroundSomething that has happened (my example), versus
something that hasn't and probably won't (yours). byu fans are nothing
if not consistent.
ArgoFYThe same Kyle Van Noy who's going to posterize Wilson
chrisbHow has it felt to constantly finish behind a "WAC
quality" team for most of the last 50 years, including 5 of the 8 seasons
during the Bronco/Kyle era?Year - AP/Coaches/Sagarin - Team -
Record2005 unranked/#55 BYU(6-6) < unranked/#51 Utah(7-5)2006 #16/#15/#19 BYU(11-2) > unranked/#54 Utah(8-5)2007 #14/#15/#17
BYU(11-2) > unranked/#34 Utah(9-4)2008 #25/#21/#32 BYU(10-3) <
#2/#4/#5 Utah(13-0)2009 #12/#12/#15 BYU)11-2) > #18/#18/#24
Utah(10-3)2010 unranked/#45 BYU(7-6) < ur/#23/#26 Utah(10-3)2011
ur/#25/#34 BYU(10-3) > unranked/#39 Utah(10-3)2012 unranked/#26
BYU(8-5) > unranked/#61 Utah(5-7)Kyle has a bcs win, something
BYU has never accomplished.Bronco has four consecutive AP Top 25 finishes,
something Utah has never accomplished.In fact, the Utes have never
had more than two consecutive AP Top 25 finishes, something BYU has accomplished
"That's okay because it's going to be a bloodbath."-Kyle Van
NoyIs that the same Kyle Van Noy who was posterized by Westlee Tonga
in Utah's first TD of the game last year? That catch coming from a player
mind you, who isn't even the best tight end on the Utah team. Yeah
bleedcougarblue, byu sure does have better athletes...
Chris BYou made a similar promise before the BYU at SDSU basketball
game during Jimmermania, then reneged on that promise after BYU crushed the
Aztecs on national TV.Why should we believe you this time?btw, the Utes were WINLESS versus the WAC last year (in the WAC's final
year as a football conference). In fact, the Utes have a two-game losing streak
in football going versus the WAC.Of course, if U want to continue
that tradition of losing to WAC teams, you could start playing UVU in
true blue,I made the same promise last yearAnd the year
beforeAnd the year beforeAnd who at the crow all those
years?byu is a WAC quality program and we will beat them like the
WAC program they are.
And oh yeah, let's not allow Utah any deep pass TDs or other big plays, in
any way, so we don't have to repeat that tired old worn out phrase, "Oh
flip, not again!" But knowing these two teams, there will probably be nail
biting situations and last minute heroics and crazy ball bounces that will
determine the outcome, no matter how either plays...or not. And maybe the
coaches DID know TH was going to do all that running. Ya think?
I've been a little worried about all the press from some of the Cougs
implying that the TX game got everything fixed for us and no worries,
mate. Is it possible that even the coaches didn't anticipate that outcome,
that it wasn't in their plan, and that TH just found a way to run, along
with Jamal? We have a big season ahead with a lot of powerhouses to contend
with. And now they know we can run and can't pass very well. So who would
you be keying on if you were our next opponent? I say we stay humble, work on
execution, devise a few other scenarios like options and draws and soft passes
and long passes and shovel passes and a few other things to keep the defenses
guessing. And did i mention execution? And oh yeah, execution. We did a lot
of good things in the TX game. Utah is a different animal to corral and put
away. This year has to be the year, no game giveaways with mistakes and
overconfidence. And no fear! But I sure enjoyed the TX game. Hope we see more
of the same! Go Cougs!
@chris bAs long as they leave their homespun referees to tend to
other PAC12 fixes the uties will be in trouble... Had there been an honest game
called against USU they would have lost by 2 TDs...Wilson won't
know what hit him... I suspect he will be running for his life every time he
hits the field... And the uties run game is , well... Non-existent...BYU 31 uties 10Mark it down and highlight it.
Re: SLCIf you've seen Hill make the high percentage passing
thing work then it must have been in HS. So far he's looking worse than
@MarkManIf an opposing team wishes to deny Hill his run game, it
will take 11 of them... If they invest all their assets in stopping his run,
he's decent enough with the pass to make them pay through the air...Have faith your neighbor for crying outloud, I do and I don't even
live in the neighborhood.
@Tilka, I was concerned too... But then he looked like he was healthy in the
post game interview... I would be surprised if he is anything but a little sore.
A "bloodbath"? Ouch!
"Humble pie coming!"Yes there will be little sister, yes
there will be.
No chris b, the real question is will you keep your promise and NEVER post
another negative comment about BYU EVER when BYU beats the Utes on September
21st?Lots of crow eating coming!
"Cougars encouraged by performance vs. Texas but remain focused on
improving"Exactly right, determined improvement is the name of
the game. Clearly BYU's athletes put the team first and not only believe
they can improve, they are determined to improve. Good coaching and attitude
goes a long way, Go Cougars!
It will be great to watch Utah put byu back in their place.The only
question is which excuse byu fans will use after Utah beats them for the FOURTH
time in a row?bad weather?referees?byu gave the game
away?I think the Texas game has byu players and fans back to
thinking they are BCS bowl material.Can't wait to bring them
crashing back down to realityHumble pie coming!
I think Texas came in thinking to stop a traditional BYU passing offense and did
not respect the run game. They were then caught flat footed when cougs run
through around and over them. Bad game plan, but the wonder is they could not
make more effective adjustments at the half.
SLC,Not sure that will happen. He lived down the street from me
some years ago. Good kid great family. Knew all of them. Older brothers
great kids and athletes not quite as good as he, but he has never shown great
abilities to pass not at Highland or now. If he doesn't the
season is 5 and 7 4 and 8. There will not be a team that will let run a yard.
They caught one off guard. Yes, I hope I am absolutely wrong. Would love to be
wrong. Would eat crow if I am wrong. They have the tools to be
great this year but for some reason they do not want to go there. Just strange
to me, strange.Mark
Well as a diehard Cougar fan diehard 7/27 is the only story worth even
discussing. There isn't a team coming that will let them run a yard.Mark
I stayed positive, to the consternation of several pessimists, and believed that
the team that played Virginia would disappear. They are gone. The team that
played Texas was great but that team has left the rear view mirror also. The
best part of college football is that each week the team can reinvent it's
self for the next team. I don't believe these coaches intend to be
stagnant and not improve. I have loved every game of the last 33 and I have
loved the examples of how they have handled success and adversity.I think
Coach Mendenhall has set his own path and it's as enjoyable as
LaVell's years were.Some people have panicked at Taysom
HIll's passing numbers. Don't be surprised if you learn he over comes
the glitch in the next two weeks. I have seen him make the high percentage
passing game work and despite people claiming they have shut down the option
read they didn't really seem to do all that well with Chuckie Keeton.Expect the improvement to be dramatic. I'm optomistic.
Has anyone received a report on whether Williams back is seriously hurt? That
kind of torque could rupture a disc.
It's just about time... I'm looking forward to it so much that there
is scarcely anything else I think about... The sad part is that it only lasts
for 3 hours or so and then it's gone... However, it will be very saisfying
to look back on for the next 3 years.I'm worried about so many
things: Will utah let Kyle go when it's over (I hope not)?; what will chris
b do when he serves out his self-imposed gag order for a year?; will our seniors
be able to contain the excitement that they have harnessed for nearly 4 years?;
will the uties ever want to play us again or will they be like Washington State
and look to schedule more Big Sky games instead in hopes of some day qualifying
for a bowl game?; will the PAC12 decide that they don't want utah as part
of their conference anymore?Lots of stuff to think about... Some
advise to my utie fan friends... Remember, it's just a game and we all
can't be great at every sport we play... (They still have gymnastics,
skiing, and ping pong, etc.)Just 12 short days away...
BYU by 12.Why?Because the Cougars are slightly superior
athletically but......primarily because the Cougars want it MORE!Go
Utah plays at this altitude all the time and knows how to stop an unbalanced
offense. BYU will need to practice the passing game "hard and fast" the
next two weeks to have a chance at beating Utah who currently have Bronco's