The Y won't get past Utah or Utah State!
Everyone keeps talking about the "better talent" of the Texas Longhorns
- but we have all learned that talent coming out of high school is very
over-rated. Many top recruits just don't pan out. Scout only evaluates
potential, and the talent of BYU players vs Texas players coming out of HS
doesn't equate to the talent those players have mentally / physically /
intangibly after 1, 2, or 3+ years in the program. I do feel that Texas is a
much better team than they showed Saturday, and didn't play as well as they
can play, much the same as BYU showed at Virginia, I do believe that BYU's
team proved that they presently are collectively more "talented" than
the Longhorns. So glad that football is a team sport. BYU's current
talent is a credit to the coaches and the character of the players.
I found it shocking that Texas was given a "pass" on the loss to BYU,
while BYU in losing to Virginia by virtue of a stupid call resulting in a pick
6, was given no quarter for the loss. In fact the only papers, the only TV,
local or cablle, giving BYU any credit were the Dallas, Houston, Austin and SLC
media. The Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle and Austin's American,
not only had the "what happened to the 'Horns" but also balanced
coverage out with "BYU was superb" comments. Nationally the word was:
"How could Texas get beat by a bad team that couldn't even beat a
terrible team like Virginia?". BYU hasn't yet gotten enough respect to
be given either an excuse for a horrible loss or credit for an amazing win.
Saturday's match was even more impressive that the heretofore best win in
Cougar history, the victory over the most talented team in college football, at
the time, Oklahome in 2009, here in Texas. Keep in mind three of the four top
players drafted in 2010 were Sooners. I don't recall that ever happening in
Mack Brown will be next if he loses 4 or more games this year. With #25 Ole
Miss, #14 O.U., #24 TCU, #12 Oklahaoma St., and #22 Baylor still to play;
If the difference is coaching, Bronco deserves a raise. Based on my estimate,
Mack Brown (by himself) makes at least 3X more than all the BYU football coaches
combined. There's something wrong when the taxpayers pay a
coach like Mack Brown 15X more than we pay the President of the U.S.
"You have to go back to 1992 to find the last time byu went 4-0 aginast
Utah."You dont even have to go back that far to find Utah's
FIRST ranked season in 1994, and it would be almost another decade before its
second in 2003. Contrast that with a BYU program that earned its first ranked
season almost two decades before in 1977, and had earned ten more, including a
national championship, before Utah earned its first.BYU fans who
have been around longer than the last ten years know that the Johnny Come Lately
Utes cant come close to the rich history and tradition of BYU Football, even
with their BCS wins and PAC-12 membership. Maybe that will change, only the
future will tell, but for now the only thing that matters is who will win on
September 21. And this time, the Cougars are not going to roll over for the Utes
like the last time they hosted them in Provo. KVN and company are going to give
Wilson and the Utes the same kind of welcome they gave the Ash and the
Longhorns.BYU 30Utah 17Mark it down!
Chris BUnfortunately for U, Van Noy won't have to say anything
after wreaking havoc on Utah's offense.He'll simply relish
watching U eating crow.
Tators,I wonder what Van Noy will say after losing his Super Bowl
game against Utah, and finishing his career 0-4 against his rival.You have to go back to 1992 to find the last time byu went 4-0 aginast
Utah.And we're about to do it for the SECOND time since
@ Chris B:Your selective memory is amusing. Just before the current
3-0 Utah mini-streak, BYU beat Utah 3 out of 4 games. The series has a long time
history of going back and forth... as it very soon will again. Yes,
the times have changed and are about to change again. September 21st begins a
new win streak for BYU. To keep saying otherwise, Chris, is simply going to
make Utah's loss hurt even worse than it already will. If you weren't
so hilarious, it would be sad to see how badly you are setting yourself up for
such a big letdown.
Its one thing for a team like Texas to lose to BYU in the passing game, but it
really was astounding to see the Cougars run through that big O-line like they
were Weber State.
BYU will handle Utah by 13 (minimum) September 21. Mark it down CB. The Utes are
nowhere close the Longhorns (or most Pac teams)in any way.
This star system is more a popularity thing.Jake Heaps vs Chucky
Keeton?I couldn't see where the Texas players were any faster,
or stronger than the cougs. To the utes, yes.Which Longhorn players
were faster than Williams, or Van Noy?
Rockon,We beat you more than you beat us, and are about to finish
the career 4-0 SWEEP of you.And yes, that is strongly correlated to
our better athletes.Whatever you are trying to spin isn't
working.It will be the SECOND 4-0 sweep of the last 15 years!Do you know how far back you have to look to get the last 2 4-0 streaks
for byu over Utah?Far.Very farVery very
far!Oh how the times have changed!
Reader comments in some Texas newspapers included some who speculated that
Bronco Mendenhall might be a good replacement for Mac Brown. But only if
he's interested in a $3 million salary increase. And in Texas, they love
Completely lost on the author is the fact that the DEFENSE and Special Teams won
this game, more than the offense, which was stellar, I'll admit.Texas could not get in a rhythm because the BYU Defense was pressuring the QB
all game. Van Noy is the real deal, and the D-line stepped up. 'Nuff
"So, the difference in this game had to be coaching"It is
not only the coaching, it is also the players who are humble and willing to do
what the coaches ask which includes putting the team first. Texas players might
have more individual talent, but they certainly didn't have the
'team' talent that night!
I enjoyed the comment from an ESPN announcer. Texas is a privledged program. BYU
considers it a privledge to play football.
Dick, your comment about Texas being so much more talented then BYU was proven
false by the 550 yards. I listen to you guys that write, predict and report this
stuff week after week, in every sport, and you are proven wrong at least half
the time, and yet your answer is the equivalent of "nothing was proven on
the field". The story is exactly what happened on the field, not some
observers baseless excuses the day after the event. Don't buy into the
"BCS" label means "Better". Their isn't a Athlete on any
team that straps on his or her equipment, and lines up opposite their counter
part, thinking that they can't hold their own against their opponent, and
they have proven this to be true time and time again. Just because some magazine
or "SCOUT" says someone or something is better then something else,
doesn't make it so. BYU, congratulations, you guys are looking better every
week. Keep up the hard work.
The question now is...which Utah coach will be fired on September 22nd?
Mack Brown should have fired himself, the guy is completely overrated
I think the fast paced BYU offense and altitude got the better of an early
season over-confident Texas team, plus they lost a big part of their speed
offense after the first series. BYU is better than the Virginia showing, and
Texas is probably better than their BYU debacle. Anything can happen in College
football on any given day.
The sum was greater than its parts. Teamwork can overcome talent. It's
happened quite often in this young football season. Perhaps the root cause of
upsets comes from how teams are ranked. And "upsets" aren't always
Like I have been saying, stars do not matter.
Which brings up my oft asked question and oft avoided by Ute fans: Utah has by
far and away more players go to the NFL than BYU. So how come BYU has only been
blown out 1 time, lost narrowly several times and won sometimes. For the obvious
disparity of NFL talent I should think Utah would dominate and they haven't
(and two narrow wins are not domination).
Football is controlled warfare.BYU beating Texas is like the
American colonists defeating the British.
UTAHDUDE, so you are part of the 63% of utes who prefer a win over byu to a bowl
game? Well we are glad to be able to provide you a bowl game.
Good win against Texas. In order of games i wanted to win the most, this one was
up there 1 notre dame 2 Wisconsin3 Texas 4 Boise
And the only game that matters 10 times more is UTAH !!!!!!!
BYU did something they haven't done for a very long time that led to this
victory ---- Instead of trying to push a certain attack all season
long in every single game, they found the weakness in their opponent and
exploited it to the max unabashedly. Poor Texas, they were trying to
do the exact opposite and dictate how the game would be played. Kind of like the
British redcoats telling the colonial militias to stand up and exchange volleys.
It didn't work.
"One thing that is not debatable is the complete mismatch of talent that was
on both sidelines that night — if you believe in recruiting services like
scout.com.Texas gets whomever it wants. BYU is extremely thankful to
get athletes the caliber of Kyle Van Noy and Ezekiel Ansah once a decade or
so.So, the difference in this game had to be coaching; the work by
BYU head coach Bronco Mendenhall and offensive coordinator Robert Anae and the
preparation and execution they instilled in players.The proof is the
number 550."A total team and coaching mismatch for BYU.