Tomahawk, we may like different teams but, your spacing and caps are kind of
funny. Keep up the good work!I think the match-up between Utah and
BYU is quite even...even though BYU cannot pass the ball. Never thought
I'd see the day BYU relied on rushing and defense. Most
importantly, why are you already posting about BYU? BYU has a bye but, Utah has
a big game this weekend. It might be best to divert attention to that first...
@TomahawkedWowzers, very awesome comment. I have to agree with my
fellow Cougs, don't invent anything that isn't there. And I've
already heard, with my own ears, how the Utes are Rose Bowl bound, "I'm
smelling roses" to be exact, over and over. All because of a big win over a
division 2 program. Is this win over Texas big? Of course it is. It's been
awhile for the BYU to get a big win like that, so please don't accuse us of
being over confident especially when they were major underdogs.
I can look outside my office window and see the University of Texas campus. I
keep up with the Longhorns though I am first and foremost a Cougar fan. The
Longhorns have actually been on the skids lately on defense, going back to last
year, and in particular against the run. Credit BYU for being able to exploit
that relative weakness in record fashion, but I wouldn't expect Utah and
the remaining teams to look like the Texas blowout. Hill's going to have
to improve his passing game if the Cougars are to march forward through a tough
schedule.[By the way, the Longhorns fired defensive coach Manny Diaz
a day after the game, and Mack Brown is getting back on the hot seat for not
having a dominating program, which is what they expect down here. Most people
think Brown needs to go at least 10-2 with a good bowl showing to keep fans at
@Tomahawk Beating Texas is a big deal regardless of how it gets spun
by the detractors. And you are correct, BYU should not let it go to their heads.
I'm not sure why you came onto this article to lecture BYU fans
about talking smack when it is almost always ute fans that show up in attempts
to turn the topic of a BYU victory into something all about the utes. There must
be a pshychiatric term for this behavior but I don't know what it is. The
terms "Inferiority complex" and "Obsessed" come to mind.Also, I know that BYU would never have scored 70 points on Weber State
had they played them yesterday. This is where B.M. and K.W. are different.
Bronco would call off the dogs and prevent his team from running up the score.
Whittingham doesn't. In fact he even called an onside kick against Wyoming
while up 50-0 a few years ago.One thing I will give Utah credit for.
The do know how to get up for the rivalry game.
Taysom Hill will never be a Steve Young or Ty Detmer, or even a John Beck.
Actually the QB he reminds me of most is Jake Locker. BYU fans ought to remember
how as a sophomore Jake Locker couldn't complete a pass to save his life,
but was still able to gash opposing defenses with his feet. Under the tutelage
of another great BYU QB, Locker did improve as a passer, but he never completed
more than 58% of his passes as a college QB. I expect that we will see similar
results with Taysom Hill. His athleticism is undeniable, but so is his lack of
accuracy. I do think his passing will improve over time, but not dramatically.
He will probably end up being somewhere in the neighborhood of a 50% passer at
best, which is more than enough when combined with his ability to gash the
defense with his feet like we saw last night against Texas, who has some of the
fastest players in Division 1. With his speed and strength, he doesn't need
to be surgical, he just needs to be accurate enough to force defenses to defend
the pass as well as the run.
Cougar fans were quite humble knowing Texas was an 8 point favorite while the
amiable and polite Longhorn fans were in stark contrast to BYU's instate
rivals. Aside from winning, it was a great game to attend and represents what
college athletics should be.
It might be well to remember that BYU did not always play smart in the 4th
quarter, amassing bone head penalties, and turnovers. It took a bone head play
or two by the Longhorns to certain the victory. Some of the teams up next will
not be so accommodating.
I wonder what the score would have been if BYU were playing, let's say,
Very proud of my Cougars. Utah trolls out in force. Can't wait for 2 weeks
to watch Utah get all keyed up but BYU to knock them off their tower.
Utes, and their fans will be vAn Noyed in a couple weeks.Jimmer up
and admit defeat.
Lets get something straight, this was not an upset.An upset is when an
inferior team pulls out a last minute win against all odds over a higher profile
and higher ranked opponent.This game was a beat down. Texas returned
19 starters to a team that finished last season ranked in the top 20. That
consistently pulls in top 5 recruiting classes and regularly competes for
national championships. And BYU dominated them in every aspect of the game.HUGE turnaround for the O-line. 550 yds rushing and ZERO sacks against
one of the best defensive fronts in college football. The defense was stout,
getting 5 sacks and holding a very good UT offense to countless 3 and outs. With
a healthy CB corps, BYU holds Texas to 10pts max. Even with 3rd and 4th string
corners being targeted constantly, BYU held Ash and Co. to 21pts. This defense
is the real deal. I'm cautiously optimistic that the offense
will continue to perform, but it is clearly on the shoulders of the O-line. And
Hill MUST be better passing down field. Luckily we have 2 weeks to make
adjustments and get ready for the though road ahead.
Great game. I thought Texas was the team that would be running over BYU - not
the other way around. The Cougars proved everyone wrong. Congrats guys!
It was a great game to enjoy! Loved it! Mr. Harmon...the "Bronco never
wins the big ones crowd?" That was just a fact Dick. And fans are tired of
not winning the big ones, or the medium ones. Last night was a great breath of
fresh "wind" air. Thank-you team! You played your hearts out. One has
to wonder what would have happened if Hill had been given the team a year
ago...or Lark for that matter. Oh well. BYU's best day may
well lie ahead, but only if the right personnel are on the field in the correct
positions. Now, the next task, play the Superbowl...and beat the Utes...in the
same fashion...pound it down their throats...and "NO" more talk of
"all the games are the same." To everyone that says that...here is my
question: Did last night feel like any old game? Did it feel like beating New
Mexico State? I'd say not. So, stop shoveling that bull at the
fans...that every game is the same...I'd say Utah will not be like any
other game, nor should it be. Blow them out of Utah County!!
Tomahawk, you know a lot and have a lot of good advice. Really we only care
about 1 thing right now though. Well, maybe 2. 1-BYU handed Texas a convincing
defeat last night, and 2-BYU's next game is the only one that matters right
now. You haven't seen a single Cougar fan today say anything about winning
out, BCS, beating Utah by 50 or Heisman Trophys. (Well, maybe a fan or two but
the vast majority are realistic) That's all stuff that nervous Ute fans
are conjuring up in your own heads and then think that if you claim BYU
fan's said it then it must have really happened.But since
we're passing out free advice here's some for you. Remember that game
on the 21st that most Ute trolls on the Des News thought the Utes would only
need to show up for? Now would be a good time to consider that you're
going to have to do more than show up to win that one.
@moderateinmagna... I hate to correct a fellow coug fan, but the uties did beat
us 4 times in a row...02' BYU 6 utah 13; 03' BYU 0 utah 3; 04'
BYU 21 utah 52; and 05' BYU 34 utah 41... Sorry, sad but true...BYU however, has a 9 game winning streak from 79' through 87'; a 6
game winning streak from 72' through77' and a 4 game winning streak
from 89' through 92'...We don't want to give utah
their 2nd 4 game winning streak... And, I'm feeling fairly confident that
we won't... I'd feel alot more confident if Taysom was better on his
touch passes and that our corners learn how to stay with their man a litle
tighter.Looking at our schedule for the balance of the season, it
looks as though we may have only 2 easy games left (the uties and Idaho
Hey cougar fans. Go easy on Tomahawk. He is just trying to share some good
advice about tooting your horns too early. Perhaps he has learned that lesson
and wants to share. Thanks Tommy. I agree that we need to put limits on our
smack talk, but we can certainly enjoy this one for a week or so.
I loved the "Facetime" moment of the Texas coaches melting down with
each other. Lots of room for improvement but let's face it,
this was a HUGE one week turnaround.Congrats to BYU.
Please, Mr. Harman...BYU went Le Mans race car on the longhorns? I bet that
line has been tucked away just waiting to see daylight. BYU is no Audi.
Tomahawk RedBYU lost the turnover battle 0-2, was ridiculously
mediocre in the passing game, but piled up 550 rushing yards on the Texas, the
MOST rushing yards EVER given up by Texas.btw, remind us how many
"power conference" teams the Utes have played, let alone, beaten.
Isn't that the automatic rejoinder we always hear from the Utes - "you
haven't beaten ANYBODY", yet!Before booking tickets to
Pasadena, you might want to start by beating at least one PAC team with a
winning record sometime.It's laughable that you're here on
a BYU article warning BYU fans to "watch the smack". The hypocrisy from
the hill never stops.
Good win for the Cougars. Thank you Utes fans for staying up late hating every
moment of the game and still have the time to vent your frustrations on a BYU
article. It's just a game, be happy.
Tomahawk Red. BYU will defeat the Utes because BYU's players, coaches,
cheerleaders, students, alumni, mascot, administration, faculty, graduate
assistants, groundskeepers, equipment managers, and custodians are more
righteous than the Utes. Just kidding! Just trying to get you and Chris B fired
Ute trolls are out in full force. I really hope BYU shuts them up.
Made all those 5-star athletes look like 5-star chumps, Go Cougars!
BYUtv interviewed Williams after the game, and he did not say anything about the
injury, he was standing up, and walked off after the injury. So hopefully,
he's okay.What a great offensive performance against a good
Texas defense. Hill was simply amazing. I'm still worried about his
passing accuracy, but his legs and ability to read the defense are
spectacular.For those of U who think the number of star recruits
determines the success of the team, look no further than Texas or USC. Both are
almost always in the Top 10 of recruiting classes. Texas got pummeled and USC
fell to a poor WSU team.
RE: Tomahawk RedCalm down... where are all the overconfident Y fans
you speak of? I don't see any cougarfans on here talking smack to our
rival. What I do see is a lot of Ute fans that are very interested in Cougar
football. BYU played a great game last night. The passing and
secondary was exposed, but the running core and defensive line showed they are
among the best in the nation. BTW, why is it so difficult for news
sources to report defensive statistics? This was an article about the defense,
but it rattled off several team and individual offensive statistics without
saying anything about the defense. I see (from the BYU site) that through two
games KVN already has 3.5 TFL and 4 QBH, but I'd love to know his line from
last night. Same goes for Fua, Unga, PoVey, Sorenson, and Kaufusi. We have at
least 4-5 future pros on the team with maybe one coming from the offense.
Let's give the D some love. Go Cougs!
Tomahawk, I think you're lecturing strawmen on how to react to the game.
No one's here making the claims you caution us against. Take it to the U
articles and tell your own fanbase that laying 70 on Weber doesn't mean
Utah is Rose Bowl-bound.Rirruto and Fuzz, despite being bent in half
like a pretzel, Williams looked fine in the postgame interview. The benefits of
TomahawkedU beat Weber State and you're chiding BYU fans.Obviously you're feeling a little insecure in your big 2-0 start,
especially with what BYU accomplished and how they did it to Texas vs. your
great win yesterday.Hilarious.By the way... Texas will
never play in RES.
Hey Tomahawk - both posts by Y fans are asking about Williams - no one is buying
into your bating. Give it a rest.
Tomahawk,Name one person who commented who is overconfident. You are
wishing BYU is overconfident after beating a team who has winning seasons in
their conference. Some Utah can't do. No one here is smacking. Quit
inventing things that aren't out there. You are showing your weakness and
fear that BYU is going to win in 2 weeks. Grow up and act mature.BYU dominated a totally talented team from top to bottom. They can beat and
destroy every other team on their schedule if they can do this to Texas. I
would be the one being afraid of being embarrassed if I were Utah. When was the
last time they demolished a ranked team? BYU just did it. I feel bad for their
next opponent. Actually, I don't.
Re: TomahawkHey, overconfident Y fans...What happens if
you lose to Utah again?It's possible.Better watch
the smack. That could be embarrassing for you._______I
believe sir that you should listen to your own advice. The overconfident U fans
could easily be eating crow two weeks from today.
Tomahawk Red: You seem to be trying really, REALLY hard to convince BYU fans
that this win isn't really a big deal. Scared of what will happen on
September 21st?Utah completely thrashed of the worst teams in the
Big Sky. BYU completely thrashed, THRASHED (producing well over 600 yards of
total offense, one of the worst defensive performances in Texas history) one of
the best teams in the Big 12 conference. Not even close to be comparable.Yep. You're terrified.
"literally beat the salsa out of the Longhorns."Really,
Dick? You know the meaning of the word "literally" right?I
watched the game pretty closely and did not see that happen.
Tasome Hill' Is A Video Game Gone Wild ! He is in fast forward motion !
Texas is asking what just happened !And the answer is
those Mormon Boys Go Fast and Go Hard !
Bring on the team on the hill. We're ready for them to enter the cougars
In termsOf Spacing on the Page, Tomahawk has
it down.So quick to jump in and remind everyone that The U of U
still lives somewhere on the planet. This article is not about the
U. It is about BYUAnd that Is All
@Tomahawk Red,It is so typical of Ute fans to diminish any kind of
win that BYU gets by saying the other team is not as good as they really are.
Quite frankly, who cares how good/bad Texas will be at the end of
the season? Of course it may matter in the long run, but overall I think BYU
fans in general are just glad our team has the ability to get up when they
are/were down (from last week). They showed resiliency and strength tonight.And, just so you know, it looks like Ute fans are the only ones really
trying to paint BYU fans as ones who are overhyped or overconfident about this
win. I think the real BYU fan recognizes that this is just one win, and that
more dedicated effort and practice will be needed to continue to win throughout
the season - including the upcoming BYU/Utah game. Good luck to you
through the rest of the season. Congrats on both the Utes and Cougs win today.
Tomahawk RedNorth Salt Lake, UT keep being delusional i have not heard 1
cougar fan say any of the things you just posted ,you are just being the usual
utah troll,and for your information Utah has never beaten byu 4 straight times
Hey, overconfident Y fans...What happens if you lose to Utah
again?It's possible.Better watch the smack. That
could be embarrassing for you.Oh, and PS... did BYU really win
tonight, or did Texas beat themselves?How would you like it if
Longhorns fans said that?
Does anyone know if Williams is OK?
Totally impressive win tonight over Texas. I didn't think there was a
chance you could win. Congrats!HOWEVER...Be careful. Be
careful how far you take this.I know you're tempted to think
about winning out.I know you're tempted to prognosticate a
50-point win over UtahI know you're tempted to tout Van
Noy/Hill for Heisman againI know you're tempted to think BCS or
NC gameI know you're tempted to think 11-1But take
this advice: Celebrate in moderation. Or else there's a good chance your
lofty trash talk will come back to haunt you.There is plenty of
positive to take away from this victory. But don't forget. You lost to a
seemingly awful Virginia squad, and Utah has had your number for three straight
seasons now.Plus, Utah is 2-0... with a win over a very good Utah
State, and an offensive blitz versus Weber State.My point? Right
now, it seems Utah is no slouch either. You might lose to them again.Save the super smack for when you actually DO beat Utah. Because you
don't have any credibility for that right now.
Awesome win!!!! One question. Does anyone know how badly Williams is hurt?
From what I saw the play where he was hurt was because 3 guys had him by the
head and shoulders and ripped him backward. If I were Bronco I'd be
demanding those players be disciplined.