@ Uteanymous What kind of big brother consistently loses to his
little brother every year? Sounds like a weak, push-over big brother to me. They're two ways to determine whose the big brother: 1) Which
school was established first? Utah 1850, BYU 1875. So Utah is older! Older
brother's are commonly known as big brothers. 2) Head to head competition:
Utah owns BYU on the gridiron winning 3 in a row, 8 of 11, and 54-34-4 overall.
Not even close! By that, Utah is the big brother because big brother's beat
their little brothers. What do those national accomplishments have
to do with Utah owning BYU head to head on the field? In fact what does that
have to do with anything? With that, I invite you to come back to
2013 with the rest of world.
Clark W. Griswold"BYU the big brother?"Absolutely!ONE National Championship to NONEONE Heisman
Trophy to NONESIX National Hall of Fame players to NONEFIFTEEN
national individual awards to NONESEVENTEEN AP top 25 finishes to FIVETWENTY-THREE WAC/MWC championship to SIX398-203-4(66%) to
314-257-4(55%) overall in the last 50 years30-20 head-to-head in the last
50 yearsBYU is clearly Utah's big brother when it comes to
national accomplishments - it's not even debatable.Utah is
running away from the Cougars because the Utes know that they have a MUCH better
chance of finishing 1-1 versus Michigan-Fresno State than they do versus
Michigan-BYU; the proof is in the scheduling.For all their talk, the
Utes have no walk.
@ Riddles in the Dark"Little brother is obviously scared of big
brother; there's no other explanation for replacing Utah's biggest
rival with a meaningless game against a team nobody on the hill even cares
about"BYU the big brother? That's funny! Since when do big
brothers consistently lose to little brothers? 3 in row, 8 of 11, 54-34-4
indicates Utah's dominance and therefore makes them big brother. We're
ditching our little brothers who still sit at the kids table to eat at the grown
ups table now. @ arrogant chickens"Actions speak
louder than words little brothers"I agree! That's why Utah
has dominated BYU in recent years. The Utes can walk the walk, while BYU only
talks the talk. Utah's actions on the field against their little brothers
speak for themselves. "The Utes are the team running away from
the Cougars"Running away from the Cougars? That same Cougar team
that lost to an ACC bottom dweller? If Utah was so scared to play BYU, then why
did they schedule a home and home game with Michigan, and Fresno State who both
are better teams than BYU?
Actions speak louder than words little brothers.The Utes are the
team running away from the Cougars!
Little brother is obviously scared of big brother; there's no other
explanation for replacing Utah's biggest rival with a meaningless game
against a team nobody on the hill even cares about.
Let byu have it.Sometimes Big Brother wants to go out with the big
boys so he gives little brother something to appease him. That doesn't mean
Big Brother is scared of little brother.
2fer"Is it 1977? Or is it 2013? Right now Fresno St. > BYU.
Your history is a complete non-issue."So is yours!Current Sagarin rankings:#38 BYU#50 Utah State#51
Fresno State#55 UtahIt's easy to see why the Utes would
rather play the Bulldogs instead of the Cougars.
@ midpacmajorIs it 1977? Or is it 2013? Right now Fresno St. >
BYU. Your history is a complete non-issue.
2ferOnly a delusional Utah fan would try to claim that Fresno State,
with only TWO lifetime AP Top 25 finishes, #24 in 1992 and #22 in 2004, is
better than BYU, a perennial Top 25 team since 1977, with SEVENTEEN AP Top 25
finishes, including FOUR since 2006, TWICE as many as the Bulldogs have had in
their entire history. Since 1992, Fresno State has had ONE double-digit win
season; Bronco has had FIVE in the last 7 seasons.Playing in
California has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. Having a better chance to win
at least 2 of 3 OOC games to give the Utes a slim chance of qualifying for a
bowl has EVERYTHING to do with it.----------Bleed
CrimsonThe Utes are going down on September 21st and U know it. The
angst on the hill is palpable.
@ midwacmajor"Only in your crimson-colored dreams. U know you
were extremely fortunate to win in 2010 and in 2012 and there isn't a Utah
fan alive who would be willing to bet the ranch on the the Utes winning this
year's game"Oh and BYU wasn't very fortunate to win in
2006, 2007, and 2009? According to BYU logic, you take out those last second
flukes and Utah would have an 11 game winning streak on the Cougies (dating back
to 2002). But, I won't sink to that level of a Y fan. BYU beat us fair and
square those three years, and Utah beat BYU fair and square in 2010 and 2012.
Nice try! Again, Utah owns BYU on the field! 3 in a row, 8 of 11,
and 54-34-4. You can't spin that fact!
"Spin it however helps U sleep at night, but the only reason the Utes would
schedule Fresno State instead of BYU is because they're scared of losing to
BYU."Utah scheduled two teams better than BYU (UM and FSU),
because they're scared of BYU? Nice logic. Playing Fresno instead of BYU
has to do with playing more games in California, where many of Utah's
recruits come from. Playing in-state teams has little value beyond pride since
Utah has dominated the in-state recruiting battles for years now.
Bitter TDS fans. Quit while you're not even ahead! GO UTES
Yeah, after we win it this year, we'll just keep it at the new Eccles
football facility. Good plan, Brad!
Whoa there Christopher B, just because you find yourself in a bubble here,
doesn't mean those games don't have an incredible amount of fire and
value to their fans. You also seemed to have left out my mentioning of Notre
Dame, which has never been in a power conference. I, for one, personally enjoy
watching the Notre Dame/Navy game every year.But alas, I know I
cannot convince you of the glorious tradition of rivalries, even those you may
not be familiar with outside of Utah. I suppose I'll leave you alone to
get pumped for the "big game" against CU.
@BYUAggie,Ya, that Navy Maryland rivalry is epic isn't it?I always hear a lot about the Navy Maryland games. Same with
TCU/SMU.LOL!Thanks for making my point.
Bleed Crimson"Utah owns BYU on the field..."Only
in your crimson-colored dreams. U know you were extremely fortunate to win in
2010 and in 2012 and there isn't a Utah fan alive who would be willing to
bet the ranch on the the Utes winning this year's game."Utah schedules home and home with the Aggies"Utah bought
out their scheduled 2014 game in Logan and Hill hasn't mentioned any plans
to ever schedule another game in Romney Stadium.
Bleed Crimson"Scared to play the instate schools?"Absolutely! Even the good doctor hill admitted that the reason he dropped BYU
and ultimately added Fresno State to replace BYU was he didn't think Utah
could handle playing Michigan and BYU OOC in the same year.And we
know that the Utes are absolutely petrified of venturing into Logan; that's
why they bought the Aggies out of Utah's last scheduled game in Logan.Spin it however helps U sleep at night, but the only reason the Utes
would schedule Fresno State instead of BYU is because they're scared of
losing to BYU.
@Christopher B:So, does that mean that Notre Dame cannot have
rivalries with power-conference schools? I can think of many schools that would
disagree. What about Navy/Maryland? TCU/SMU? Those are just ones that I can
think of off the top of my head.I think it's silly to want old
rivalries to die. Thanks to conference alignment, there are a number of games I
used to look forward to that I won't see anymore, and I think it's a
shame. I lived for the Nebraska/Oklahoma and BYU/Utah games every year growing
@ MUSSing with U"The truth, christy, is the Utes are too scared
to play their long time rivals anymore, especially the Aggies in Logan. The Utes
are nothing more than a WAC/MWC caliber team pretending to be one of the big
boys. 4-5, 3-6, 7-11 overall is proof of that. U haven't beaten a single
PAC team with a winning record since joining the conference"Scared to play the instate schools? Utah owns BYU on the field and you know
it! Utah is giving BYU 2 years off to lick their wounds before they play again
in 2016. As far as USU, they're a worthy competitor and Utah schedules home
and home with the Aggies. Utah isn't scared to go up to Logan. Unlike BYU
who schedules 2 for 1 games with the Aggies. The Cougies are trying to spend as
much time away from Logan as possible. They'll never forget the beating
they took the last time they made a trip up to Logan. This year, the Cougies
have to visit Logan and they'll be reminded why they do 2 for 1 with USU.
The truth, christy, is the Utes are too scared to play their long time rivals
anymore, especially the Aggies in Logan. The Utes are nothing more than a
WAC/MWC caliber team pretending to be one of the big boys. 4-5, 3-6, 7-11
overall is proof of that. U haven't beaten a single PAC team with a winning
record since joining the conference.
Utah IS too good to be having rivalries with WAC/MWC teams.No power
conference programs have real rivalries with non-power conference teams.byu and usu can continue to be rivals as they are both non-power
When Utah got too good (in their own minds) for USU and BYU, and BYU lost its
way in indie land, the traditions of football rivalries died. It's part of
the bigger story of college football chasing the dollar. It just isn't fun
The Beehive Boot should be retired permanently since we're too scared to
travel to Logan anymore and we'll be taking two years off to salve our
bruised egos after September 21st.