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Police say man shot Draper officer, shot woman and turned gun on himself

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  • Kelliebelle66 West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 5:14 p.m.

    @Midvaelian
    What in the heck are you talking about? The police officer just went to check out why a vehicle was sitting in the road parked strangely which is his job. And from the outcome we know that the vehicle needed to be checked out. You talk about SWAT teams and how maybe if a pretty unarmed female officer just went up to the car maybe the suspect would have responded nicely. What are you smoking? The officer never opened fire on this guy, the SWAT team wasn't there at the time and he may have already shot the woman in the car with him. This is not a case of an officer out of control causing a guy to feel cornered and flip out. There was already stuff going on with this guy. He had a woman and gun in his vehicle and he was driving up and down the road crashing into things This situation is not an example that fits your rant about militarized police. An officer checked out a suspicious car and was ambushed. If his gun were at the ready he would have fired back. He wasn't looking for a shoot out.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    Re: "A hero is somebody who does something or makes a decision that is heroic."

    You mean like putting himself between us and the bad guys every day. Like investigating and handling the incident on Sunday that started out as a parking infraction and, with no apparent warning, turned into murder and mayhem?

    Like dealing professionally with an unappreciative, often hostile public that feels duty bound to confidantly, but ignorantly second-guess every action?

    Real people call that heroic.

    Fools mock.

  • moniker lewinsky Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 3, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    Midvaliean
    Your proposed solution to this problem is more pretty female officers? That's not at all sexist.

  • oldschooler USA, TX
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:52 p.m.

    Our prayers are with the Johnson family, too sad an officer has to die for the public to show simpathy and understanding for a police officer's job and to recognize the nature of their job

  • DH48 West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:51 a.m.

    It is so disappointing to read the comments of people who are so willing to pass judgment against those who must make split second decisions about the safety of their lives and others. Sure, there are bad cops just like there are bad teachers. Whenever human beings are involved you will have good and bad, but this does not mean we should start throwing out hate terms and lump all into a group, just because of a very few. Think people! and thank you to those who risk and sacrifice so much for us.

    God bless the memory of this officer and peace and comfort to his family.

  • wolfe44 san diego, ca
    Sept. 2, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Honest question. Why is the cop a "hero?" I think its tragic he was killed. My heart aches. But he was simply murdered. He didn't really do anything special. A hero is somebody who does something or makes a decision that is heroic. This guy was simply doing his job. Don't get me wrong, I am horrified by the loss of his life here, but hero? Anybody who happened upon that guy was gonna get shot.

    I am also horrified by the police militarization. So the officer is shot and suddenly every cop within a hundred miles shows up with an M4 and a grudge. We're lucky nobody else was hurt. Look at boston, the police shot and almost killed one of their own while trying to shoot the bad guys.

    Finally, Police work is the 14th most dangerous job (for death) in the US. Policemen die at a rate of about half the rate of farmers. Something to think about before you advocate more police power.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    Maybe the reporter could have asked whether drugs were involved? There's a lot that needs to be answered here. And of course, the remedy will be that our police become even more militarized.

    Further, anyone take note of the lockdown of a large area? Was this for public safety, police safety, or simply a demonstration of police authority? Or does no one care?

    Militarized and authoritative police, and spying on all citizens' electronic communications and activity. That's a police state.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Sept. 2, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    May God bless Sgt. Derek Johnson and protect his family.

  • Contrariuser mid-state, TN
    Sept. 2, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    @NeilT --

    "It is obvious some of the posters didn't even bother to read the article. "

    Keep in mind that this article has been rewritten several times since it was posted. The original article didn't have any information at all about who the shooter was. At that point they didn't even know whether the shooter had been captured. So, naturally, some of the earlier commenters didn't have all the information available to them.

    @procurador --

    "it's callow hubris for a poster to profess some gnostic insight that renders his "solution" to a problem he clearly knows nothing about"

    Back atcha, big guy. You don't have nearly enough info to declare that this has anything to do with drugs or alcohol, either. It could just as easily be one of those "ex-boyfriend kills ex-girlfriend and then kills himself" fiascos, only with really bad aim. We just don't know yet!

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 7:41 a.m.

    It is obvious some of the posters didn't even bother to read the article. The perpetrator is in the hospital. It appears after he shot the officer he turned on a passenger in his vehicle, shot her and then shot himself. Both are in the hospital in critical condition. I can't help but wonder if the officer had been wearing body armor he might have survived. Just a thought. Unfortunately we will never know.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 7:09 a.m.

    Re: "Any drug arrests should be done without S[WAT] teams."

    Hey, if you can convince the drug cartels, I'm sure the police would be grateful.

    In the meantime, however, it's callow hubris for a poster to profess some gnostic insight that renders his "solution" to a problem he clearly knows nothing about, somehow more credible than those of trained, experienced experts, much closer to the action.

    And, BTW, here's betting drugs WERE involved in this bizarre crime, just another in a long series of incidents proving, beyond any doubt, that drug and alcohol use are NOT cute, sophisticated, victimless, consequence-less pastimes.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 6:28 a.m.

    @Reasonable Person
    Everyone feels sympathy for the fallen's family. However do not try and drape your opinion in some kind of holier than yours because you are on the side of the deceased. There is always time for a discussion about police tactics, especially in light of multiple dead people.
    Its safe to say that since it ended in the police officer slain, we should critique this situation ever more diligently than normal.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Sept. 2, 2013 6:25 a.m.

    Some situations are made worse by cops. WHAT IF a pretty female cop unarmed went into talk to him? The mere fact of adding a male who is armed to any conversation can turn it for the worst, despite the male cops best efforts. Seen it time and time again.

  • snowman Provo, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 10:35 p.m.

    When one looses a spouse or a child, it leaves a hole in your heart forever. It a ache that doesn't go away. I feel so sorry for his wife and son.

  • CSP5 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 8:39 p.m.

    This isn't and shouldn't be a political issue. A good man died today and isn't going home to his wife and son. I know how that feels as a wife and I'm so very sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with this little family.

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    My total sympathies are with the deceased officer, his family, and the Draper PD.

    @Midvaliean
    What you call "militarized police" iis the direct result of the easily-obtainable militarized weapons that are trafficked throughout our country, without a bit of regulation.
    When one "gun promoter" has to own 300 guns, has an AR-15 stolen from his unsecured vehicle, and when others have similar armories, are the police supposed to respond with a bow and arrow?

    This is not the time for your NRA rants

  • DaveWY Afton, WY
    Sept. 1, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    So sorry to hear of the death of Sergeant Johnson. It is a tragic loss for his family, friends and the community. There will always be debate about the split-second decisions police have to make concerning the use of deadly force. Unfortunately, we will always need to have men and women willing to risk their lives every day to protect a society that will never truly appreciate their sacrifice.

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    I mourn for Officer Johnson. I send my condolences to his family, friends, and colleagues of which my son was one. Facts will emerge, conjecture can wait, politicking is inappropriate. God Bless Derek Johnson.

  • amazondoc mid-state, TN
    Sept. 1, 2013 2:19 p.m.

    @not everyone is evil --

    Please rest assured that nobody here wishes to compare this particular cop to anyone bad or corrupt.

    Thanks for chiming in with some personal reflections of the man. I'm sure he will be both honored and missed.

  • not everyone is evil draper, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 1:34 p.m.

    I live in Draper and know this cop and his family. He was an AMAZING man that treated everyone equally. He is the kind of cop, that all cops should be like. He had an great foundation and a living wife and child. I hate the fact that he is being compared to all these horrible people, when he was not one of them. So please if your a hater, find another page to hate on. My heart goes out to Dereks wife and family. Much love!!

  • rok Boise, CA
    Sept. 1, 2013 12:46 p.m.

    Could they have driven him to a hospital faster than the 30 minutes they waited for the helicopter?

  • SLC BYU Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    @DN Subscriber 2: This criminal perpetrator is every bit as worthy of a cell on death row at the Point of the Mountain facility as suspected WVC Shawn Cowley is. The unarmed woman, Daneille Willard WAS NOT a threat to Detectives Cowley & Salmon whereas this individual police would have every justifiable means to use deadly force if it comes down to it. Perhaps Sim Gill should prosecute you and others who defend bad police behavior with sedition. You're as low as the ACLU dfense attorneys who defend the worst of the criminals with frivelous motions and nonesense in court.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    I'll be interested to see how this turns out. I'm not a big fan of the militarized police. When people want to solve problems with guns first people can get unnecessarily killed.
    Any drug arrests should be done without Swat teams. You dont' need to go into the vipers nest to get the viper most times. Just wait for the viper to leave and catch it later. That is what we should be using surveillance for.
    Not many details, I won't rush to judge, I just wish the police considered other measures first. SWAT seems to be the favorite card to play, when it should be the last card ever used.

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    To DN Subscriber 2

    A Police Officer died this morning protecting the citizens of Draper and this State. This is a time of mourning for this Officer and a time to support his colleagues, family and friends.

    Why DN Subscriber 2 do you continually have to attempt to make hay over tragedy to further your political agenda?

    You don't know all the facts and I'm personally tired of your attempt to make everything political and your attack methods against people in various political offices that had nothing to do with a particular situation. I'm actually shocked that in your post you didn't blame Obama in some way for this tragedy.

    I offer my condolences to the family and colleagues of this brave officer.

  • USNGary South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 1, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    I hope I don't see any cop haters on this board. It is people like this is why the police have to do what they do

  • Contrariusester mid-state, TN
    Sept. 1, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    @higv --

    "And we hear how bad the police are."

    The police are both bad and good. Unfortunately, the bad ones hold the power of life and death just as much as the good ones do.

    We do not forgive a fireman for setting fires just because good firemen are killed on duty.

    We do not forgive a surgeon for operating while drunk just because he has previously saved lives.

    Likewise, the dangers of a police officer's job do not ever excuse him or her from carrying out his duties with extreme care and diligence.

    I sincerely hope they catch the guy who did this, and I feel for any family that the officer may have left behind.

    I also sincerely hope that innocent bystanders don't get injured in the process.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Sept. 1, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    And we hear how bad the police are when someone loses there life that does not simply comply with what they say. Every week throughout this nation several police officers lose there lives to protect us. And we hear how bad the police are.