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Published: Sunday, Sept. 1 2013 9:10 a.m. MDT

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higv
Dietrich, ID

And we hear how bad the police are when someone loses there life that does not simply comply with what they say. Every week throughout this nation several police officers lose there lives to protect us. And we hear how bad the police are.

Contrariusester
mid-state, TN

@higv --

"And we hear how bad the police are."

The police are both bad and good. Unfortunately, the bad ones hold the power of life and death just as much as the good ones do.

We do not forgive a fireman for setting fires just because good firemen are killed on duty.

We do not forgive a surgeon for operating while drunk just because he has previously saved lives.

Likewise, the dangers of a police officer's job do not ever excuse him or her from carrying out his duties with extreme care and diligence.

I sincerely hope they catch the guy who did this, and I feel for any family that the officer may have left behind.

I also sincerely hope that innocent bystanders don't get injured in the process.

USNGary
South Jordan, UT

I hope I don't see any cop haters on this board. It is people like this is why the police have to do what they do

owlmaster2
Kaysville, UT

To DN Subscriber 2

A Police Officer died this morning protecting the citizens of Draper and this State. This is a time of mourning for this Officer and a time to support his colleagues, family and friends.

Why DN Subscriber 2 do you continually have to attempt to make hay over tragedy to further your political agenda?

You don't know all the facts and I'm personally tired of your attempt to make everything political and your attack methods against people in various political offices that had nothing to do with a particular situation. I'm actually shocked that in your post you didn't blame Obama in some way for this tragedy.

I offer my condolences to the family and colleagues of this brave officer.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

I'll be interested to see how this turns out. I'm not a big fan of the militarized police. When people want to solve problems with guns first people can get unnecessarily killed.
Any drug arrests should be done without Swat teams. You dont' need to go into the vipers nest to get the viper most times. Just wait for the viper to leave and catch it later. That is what we should be using surveillance for.
Not many details, I won't rush to judge, I just wish the police considered other measures first. SWAT seems to be the favorite card to play, when it should be the last card ever used.

SLC BYU Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@DN Subscriber 2: This criminal perpetrator is every bit as worthy of a cell on death row at the Point of the Mountain facility as suspected WVC Shawn Cowley is. The unarmed woman, Daneille Willard WAS NOT a threat to Detectives Cowley & Salmon whereas this individual police would have every justifiable means to use deadly force if it comes down to it. Perhaps Sim Gill should prosecute you and others who defend bad police behavior with sedition. You're as low as the ACLU dfense attorneys who defend the worst of the criminals with frivelous motions and nonesense in court.

rok
Boise, CA

Could they have driven him to a hospital faster than the 30 minutes they waited for the helicopter?

not everyone is evil
draper, UT

I live in Draper and know this cop and his family. He was an AMAZING man that treated everyone equally. He is the kind of cop, that all cops should be like. He had an great foundation and a living wife and child. I hate the fact that he is being compared to all these horrible people, when he was not one of them. So please if your a hater, find another page to hate on. My heart goes out to Dereks wife and family. Much love!!

amazondoc
mid-state, TN

@not everyone is evil --

Please rest assured that nobody here wishes to compare this particular cop to anyone bad or corrupt.

Thanks for chiming in with some personal reflections of the man. I'm sure he will be both honored and missed.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

I mourn for Officer Johnson. I send my condolences to his family, friends, and colleagues of which my son was one. Facts will emerge, conjecture can wait, politicking is inappropriate. God Bless Derek Johnson.

DaveWY
Afton, WY

So sorry to hear of the death of Sergeant Johnson. It is a tragic loss for his family, friends and the community. There will always be debate about the split-second decisions police have to make concerning the use of deadly force. Unfortunately, we will always need to have men and women willing to risk their lives every day to protect a society that will never truly appreciate their sacrifice.

Reasonable Person
Layton, UT

My total sympathies are with the deceased officer, his family, and the Draper PD.

@Midvaliean
What you call "militarized police" iis the direct result of the easily-obtainable militarized weapons that are trafficked throughout our country, without a bit of regulation.
When one "gun promoter" has to own 300 guns, has an AR-15 stolen from his unsecured vehicle, and when others have similar armories, are the police supposed to respond with a bow and arrow?

This is not the time for your NRA rants

CSP5
Ogden, UT

This isn't and shouldn't be a political issue. A good man died today and isn't going home to his wife and son. I know how that feels as a wife and I'm so very sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with this little family.

snowman
Provo, UT

When one looses a spouse or a child, it leaves a hole in your heart forever. It a ache that doesn't go away. I feel so sorry for his wife and son.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

Some situations are made worse by cops. WHAT IF a pretty female cop unarmed went into talk to him? The mere fact of adding a male who is armed to any conversation can turn it for the worst, despite the male cops best efforts. Seen it time and time again.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

@Reasonable Person
Everyone feels sympathy for the fallen's family. However do not try and drape your opinion in some kind of holier than yours because you are on the side of the deceased. There is always time for a discussion about police tactics, especially in light of multiple dead people.
Its safe to say that since it ended in the police officer slain, we should critique this situation ever more diligently than normal.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Any drug arrests should be done without S[WAT] teams."

Hey, if you can convince the drug cartels, I'm sure the police would be grateful.

In the meantime, however, it's callow hubris for a poster to profess some gnostic insight that renders his "solution" to a problem he clearly knows nothing about, somehow more credible than those of trained, experienced experts, much closer to the action.

And, BTW, here's betting drugs WERE involved in this bizarre crime, just another in a long series of incidents proving, beyond any doubt, that drug and alcohol use are NOT cute, sophisticated, victimless, consequence-less pastimes.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

It is obvious some of the posters didn't even bother to read the article. The perpetrator is in the hospital. It appears after he shot the officer he turned on a passenger in his vehicle, shot her and then shot himself. Both are in the hospital in critical condition. I can't help but wonder if the officer had been wearing body armor he might have survived. Just a thought. Unfortunately we will never know.

Contrariuser
mid-state, TN

@NeilT --

"It is obvious some of the posters didn't even bother to read the article. "

Keep in mind that this article has been rewritten several times since it was posted. The original article didn't have any information at all about who the shooter was. At that point they didn't even know whether the shooter had been captured. So, naturally, some of the earlier commenters didn't have all the information available to them.

@procurador --

"it's callow hubris for a poster to profess some gnostic insight that renders his "solution" to a problem he clearly knows nothing about"

Back atcha, big guy. You don't have nearly enough info to declare that this has anything to do with drugs or alcohol, either. It could just as easily be one of those "ex-boyfriend kills ex-girlfriend and then kills himself" fiascos, only with really bad aim. We just don't know yet!

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

May God bless Sgt. Derek Johnson and protect his family.

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