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Published: Thursday, Aug. 29 2013 11:00 p.m. MDT

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Confused in AZ
Chandler, AZ

I've never found myself on the wrong side of the law because I don't BREAK the laws of this country. Nor do I associate with those who do. Never has my door been kicked in and police officers with rifles entered. If you are a criminal or associate with criminal types you can expect to be treated like one. If you are a drug offender and hang with other dopers or buy drugs- you deserve exactly what you get from the police. The rest of us deserve protection from you and your ilk. No pity from me!

Contrariusester
mid-state, TN

@Confused in AZ --

"I've never found myself on the wrong side of the law because I don't BREAK the laws of this country. "

I guess you've never heard of the idea "innocent until proven guilty", then.

In case you've forgotten, we citizens meet the police BEFORE trial. When police interact with civilians, those civilians still have a Constitutional right to be considered innocent of any crime.

Unless you feel like changing the Constitution?

DH48
West Jordan, UT

This is sensationalism in its purest form. It is so easy to judge when your not the one facing the critical situation.

USNGary
South Jordan, UT

What about the Draper cop that was killed this morning and 2 others in critical condition. Are we going to complain when the cops shoot and kill this perp? Obviously this cop didn't have the time to protect himself or the others shot. This is why the police have to be the way they are. There is usually a reason why they are called to a situation. You people commenting on this article disgust me with your claim that the cops are always at fault when a shooting is involved. Wake up! You are part of the problem. Just listen and do what's told to you. What would happen to you if you didn't listen at work- you would be fired.

Contrariuser
mid-state, TN

@USNGary --

"Are we going to complain when the cops shoot and kill this perp?"

That depends on -- oddly enough -- the facts of the situation. And we don't know those facts yet.

"Obviously this cop didn't have the time to protect himself or the others shot. This is why the police have to be the way they are. "

Police work isn't even in the top 10 of the most dangerous jobs in America, believe it or not. (They came in at #11 this year.)

We don't allow any of those other workers with more dangerous jobs -- including loggers, cab drivers, farmers, and fishermen -- to kill people without cause, so why should police get to kill people without cause?

"You people commenting on this article disgust me with your claim that the cops are always at fault when a shooting is involved."

Nobody here has made any such claim, so you have no reason for your disgust.

Police have a tough job. That doesn't mean they get to do it irresponsibly.

"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

higv
Dietrich, ID

INtersting the phrase innocent tell proven guilty is not found in the constitution. It is a fair trial. In order to save a life some action has to be taken before a trial. We don't allow a condemned murderer on the street before the sentencing. If we did that would be a danger to society.

Contrariuser
mid-state, TN

@higv --

"INtersting the phrase innocent tell proven guilty is not found in the constitution. It is a fair trial. "

It ought to be pretty obvious that people who are presumed guilty aren't going to get that fair trial. ;-)

"We don't allow a condemned murderer on the street before the sentencing. "

Of course not.

Notice that word you used -- CONDEMNED. That means he's already been through trial and been proven guilty.

I'll repeat: when citizens are interacting with the police, they still have the right to be considered innocent. Many many people find themselves confronted by police officers when they have broken no laws whatsoever.

G L W8
SPRINGVILLE, UT

Regardless of which side of the issue readers find themselves taking, one thing stands out glaringly--as a society, we have forgotten to be polite. Every encounter I've had with law enforcement over many years has been one of mutual politeness and respect. When either party has shown politeness and respect for the other, it has been returned.
That practice alone would tend to distinguish a clear difference between citizen and criminal elements and diffuse many explosive situations. Some of those will still occur and unfortunately turn to tragedy; it's human nature. But the overall numbers would decrease.

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