And the Secret Combination grows ever larger.
This system has to change. Packing a room shouldn't allow you to win at
the ballot box. There are problems with the other system, but it is closer to
fair than the current caucus system.
@Reasonable PersonIn your opinion, what percentage of Utah voters
are the "average Utah voter?" The ones whom you describe as only
knowing, "...the letter R and blindly punches that button."Obviously, there is at least a pretty good section of voters in Salt Lake
County, as well as among those who live in Utah's 4th Congressional
District who are not "average Utah voters."Otherwise, how
did Jim Matheson get re-elected to Congress and Ben McAdams (who as a State
Senator had one of the most liberal voting records in the legislature) get
elected Salt Lake County Mayor?
"Reasonable Person":re: Sen. Bennett in 2010. He was not in
the top 2 coming out of convention. In fact the more moderate Tim Bridgewater
was selected by 57% of the delegates in the last round. Mike Lee managed to get
43% and make it to a primary. Sen. Bennett endorsed Tim Bridgewater during the
primary, but with voters ticked at TARP and ObamaCare, they went with Mike
Lee.You like or don't like Sen. Mike Lee? Well 57% of the
delegates didn't pick him to be the nominee. It was during the primary he
was selected to be the GOP nominee. Limiting? There were over
120,000 voters that participated in the 2012 Neighborhood Caucus election and
meeting. The democratic caucus also had record turnout. People want a say on who
shows up on the ballot.The open primary is working so well in 2013
where 15% was considered good? You can't blame that on the caucus system.
The one time Utah got rid of the caucus system our turnout went to 10% for a
primary that included the US Senate. It was even that low in Salt Lake County.
See August of 1946.
I am sure Gail is a nice lady. That doesn't mean she is correct to change
the system.Who gets to pick the people that show up on the ballot?
It is the voters through the caucus system. The candidates get to decide if they
are going to run and each of us vote to have them vetted. We put the best ones
we have that volunteered to run on the ballot. One of the reasons we get
involved in the caucus system is to have a say as to who is on the ballot.If we didn't have the system we have, it would be the power brokers
that would get to decide. They are the ones trying to get rid of the caucus. Sad
she bought into their argument. Keep Fair Elections in Utah, keep
the caucus and convention system
The caucus & convention system in Utah is the best way to make sure a
grassroots process can win over large amounts of money. It is the only way
someone with $100,000 can go against someone with $2 million in election
funds.We have a system that that does NOT favor the incumbent,
wealthy or famous. This is a good thing.Our problem with voter
turnout is it has not kept up with the population increase. The voter turnout
keeps going up but not as fast as the population. Some of that is the younger
voters, where Utah has a larger percentage of them and they aren't, as a
group, as involved. Also those moving in and not understanding our system.We already have a "bypass" system, filing as an unaffiliated
candidate. You go straight to the general. Someone doesn't think they can
win if vetted by average citizens asking one on one questions, can run and spend
the money. Why should they be a party nominee if they are going to bypass the
party?If you change the way our Utah primary's work, you could
have two republicans in the general election ballot (or two democrats).
Good move!Utah's caucus system is designed to limit true voter
participation by gorging the meetings with insiders and activists.The person calling the average voter "uninformed" might be correct,
since the "average Utah voter" only knows the letter R and blindly
punches that button.Hopefully, with citizen-driven primaries, people
will have to start paying attention to what they vote for.Or else
we'll have more Mike Lees.
Choosing such a sympathetic public figure to co-chair this drive is unfortunate.
The "Count My Vote" initiative should be re-named the "Count the
Vote of the Uninformed" initiative. It is intended to blunt the influence
of the passionate in favor of the apathetic sheep who are easily sold on a big
spender. The initiative springs from the fall of one of Utah's career
politicians, Senator Bennett, who intended to be a "lifer" just like
Grandpa Orrin.The Founders didn't intend for government service
to become a career. If you have misgivings about career, divine-right
politicians, don't be swayed by the recruitment of Gail Miller to give
credibility to this misguided initiative.