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'Dear daughter, let Miley Cyrus be a lesson to you'

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  • paintandestroy Richmond/Cache, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    Prediction- when these two are long forgotten in the public eye public eye Robin will settle down, have a daughter, and write childrens books to justify himself while Miley will never go away because she just won't.

  • bigirish OREM, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    I always thought she was a self-absorbed, narcissistic, over-raated and was not that talented or pretty as a teen queen when I watched her show with some of my grandkids. Now having seen where she's gone as a post teen, desperate to keep the lime light and doing anything to keep it, I feel sorry for her and anyone who continues to follow her. Let her go kids and move on. She's already a has-been trying to re-invent herself instead of trying to find her core person, which may not exist. That's what happens to some teen stars who don't know who they are outside the invented personality they are for tv. Daddy Billy Ray, where are you now? Cheering her on? And mom too? What a crock!

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    You know, I was having a discussion the other day where I pointed out how aggressive conservatives and Republicans can be in their personal attacks on people, much more so then liberals. I had people telling me I was wrong. Well, look at these comments, mostly coming from conservatives, attacking this 20 year old young woman for a suggestive dance routine.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    People were actually watching the MTV awards? I guess people have nothing better to do. Anyway, good for you Miley, you got the attention, and in your business that is exactly what you need to do. Congrats, and strong work. You knocked lady GaGa right out of the ring.

    Did anyone notice this from Genn Beck in the article:

    "And in the end, if enough of us rescue our own children and our own families, there will be enough of us to be able to set the example when the reset button is hit, and we will lead the way out of real darkness."

    He is going to "lead the way out of real darkness"? This guy has lost his mind. No, really, he has.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 30, 2013 6:58 a.m.

    @GZE

    Amen brother. I haven't watched the MTV awards or the channel itself since the 90s. I need not be a rocket scientist to know that I want no part of MTV. And I am relatively liberal, at least for this state.

    I stay away from corporate entertainment 95 percent of the time anyway. Thank you Sirius radio options and Netflix documentaries. I only know of this Miley thing from still photos on my homepage (yahoo) which I never clicked on. Yahoo is also trash, just more disguised for the smaller brains to click on what they think is relevant or news. Is there any news left by the way? I quit watching that propaganda as well around 7 years ago. FOX, MSNBC, CNN, BBC, and Al Jezeera, it's all the same brainwashing agenda.

    Why watch the MTV awards at all? But what do I know? I avoid the academy awards and award shows in general. I see them as just a circus worship parade. However, Daniel Day Lewis is a tremendous actor. It's funny though, as good as Lincoln was to me, I thought Lewis was better in a hand full of other movies.

  • dustman Gallup, NM
    Aug. 29, 2013 4:17 p.m.

    What about Robin Thicke?

    A 36 year old married man and father, who was dancing very inappropriately with an intoxicated young girl, singing lyrics that were just as inappropriate; and what happens the next day? We're all boycotting the 20 year old. The grown man gets a pass?

  • sanpaco Sandy, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    Why is her tongue still out in like EVERY PICTURE I've seen!?

  • BYU Track Star Los Angeles, CA
    Aug. 29, 2013 4:05 p.m.

    Justin Timberlake had this to say about Miley at the VMAs.

    "I was not in the crowd because it was close to my performance," Timberlake said. "I don't look at Miley that way, because the first time I met her she was 'Hannah Montana.' My thoughts on it are, it's the VMAs. We're talking about Madonna in a wedding dress ****** the stage, we're talking about Britney doing a striptease. This cycle is not uncommon. ... It's almost like if something like that doesn't happen at the VMAs, then I feel like it was boring."

    In other words people, without a mini-VMAs scandal dejour, there would be no VMAs telecast.

  • Whane The Whip Huntington Beach, CA
    Aug. 29, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    This article is just one big personal attack aimed at the parents of Miley. It's one thing if you want to judge her actions, but to judge her motives and her parents too is presumptuous. This type of judging is very dangerous and just happened in South Korea recently when a group of artists were executed by firing squad for doing porn... and after that, for good measure the family of those caught doing porn were put in prison. If you are going to judge, then go ahead and judge, just be sure you're judging the right person.

  • MormonDemocrat Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 2:45 p.m.

    Here is the trend I find disturbing. Adorable, wholesome, fresh-scrubbed child star offers seemingly appropriate entertainment to a generation of children and tweens. She then outgrows that demographic and, chasing the entertainment dollar that has become her meal ticket, "matures" into a glorified pole dancer, objectifying and hypersexualizing herself and women geneerally. Meanwhile, her adoring fans watch their role model's evolution. Some will say this is a big media conspiracy to destroy society or the family. I am not saying that. Some will say that these women have an obligation to serve as role models to the young women and thier families who have made them welathy celebrities. I think that would be nice, but I am not even saying that. I am just saying that I am every day more grateful that we have not had cable TV in our home, and that my daughters have essentially no idea who Brittney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Lindsay Lohan or Miley Cyrus are.

  • Jary Phoenix, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    Why do we keep talking about this train wreck of a story? I am personally tired of seeing her picture (especially the one associated with this story - though there have been far worse) plastered online....many times without my having to search for it at all. A proper story would be a remake of the old Willie Nelson song...."Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be Media Stars."

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 1:38 p.m.

    Count how many stories have occurred about Miley over the past week. I am guessing hundreds nation wide from printed news to the internet. Miley got what she wanted - attention because attention pays mega bucks as we see continually from all these dirt bag rappers like JZ and others. American culture is in the sewer especially age 17-23 and little Miley gave um what they wanted. Shock and awe...

  • Dan Maloy Enid, OK
    Aug. 29, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    @ Hutterite - American Fork, UT - "Why is this a 'dear daughter' moment? If you've done your job, the stupid antics of Ms.Cyrus are but a stupid sideshow to a daughter who by now knows trash when she sees it."

    Hutterite -

    Wise parents use EVERY applicable opportunity to have dear daughter' discussions. Indeed, why wouldn't you?

    I'm glad that I could clear that up....

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 11:19 a.m.

    I can't wait for her next performance at Stadium of Fire!

    Seriously, it's sad how this happens to some of these young stars. You wouldn't think that it could be that they have such low self esteem, but I guess when your whole life has been lived for you by PA's and publicists, you don't get a chance to grow and mature naturally. Hollywood wants to see these young people grow up so fast, that some can't handle the speed at which they are being forced to mature. Sadly, some don't mature. Miley herself recently said her transformation was "puberty" I guess by saying she is going through puberty at 20 is a good indication that she wasn't allowed to mature naturally in her teens. I actually feel bad for her. No young woman should feel so low about herself that she has to squirm around, flicking her tongue and grinding on a married man to get her sense of self. Tragic! To see her mom applaud and look like she was proud, I hope she was just doing it for the cameras, because no parent should be proud of that spectacle.

  • MrPlate Lindon, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    @JJJHS - I don't think conservatives will soon be electing Anthony Weiner, Eliott Spitzer, or Bill Clinton to any office. Many liberals are also judging the shocking immorality of Miley's dirty dancing. That your sanctimony is only aimed at one side of a bi-partisan castigation of Miley's disgusting conduct only teaches us the lesson that you are too blindly biased to have any credibility.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    Let this be a lesson:
    Dance raunchy on TV and have your morality judged by others.

    Cheat on your wife while Governor of South Carolina, lie to the public about your whereabouts, use taxpayer money to see your mistress, break sacred marriage vows before God and you will get elected to the US House of Representatives by fellow Conservatives that are judging this girl.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    Since fame seems to be the driving force as the single most important thing to achieve in American life, then Miley has succeeded. These days, a person can have a sex tape out there for everyone to see, and does that ruin them? No, they become more famous and popular and go on to get TV shows and clothing lines and make millions. Do I think this is good? Absolutely not. Do I think it will change? Absolutely not. It will only get worse. There will come a time when what Miley did will be commonplace and the next Miley, or Paris, or Kim, will have to push the envelope even more to get the same amount of fame. The home is the only place one might be able to get away from this stuff, but with all the incoming media these days, even protecting the home might be in vain. What a world!

  • estreetshuffle Window Rock, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    Well, there are openings for rodeo clowns. It's almost fair season.

  • Brent T. Aurora CO Aurora, CO
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    As it has been pointed out, this "reaction" seems to be validation for Cyrus' "act." This is chalked up as a win for her, focusing attention on her faltering "career." True so far as one is willing to be the object of derision and scorn.

    Rather the reaction gives hope that for some people, more than we would before Monday have pessimistically believed existed, there remains a line of decency -- that something can still shock and be weird. The reaction really isn't about Miley Cyrus.

    Soon she will (if she doesn't change) become a postscript, an icon of a moment. When you see the name Janet Jackson... yeah... a big career reduced to one stupid decision and moment. Lindsey Lohan? Pathetic butt end of jokes about a life train wrecked.

    Hopefully we can continue the dialog and check ourselves as a society. One can hope anyway.

  • Brent T. Aurora CO Aurora, CO
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    "Simonian expressed her understanding that Cyrus no longer desired to be associated with her innocent past, and that no one could expect her to stay that way"

    Actually that is exactly what I and many are hoping for and expect -- that child actors rewarded with worldwide fame, riches and the opportunity to be role models grow up to act the same way as adults -- pure, innocent, moral, dignified, in control of their lives, not objectified, self assured, sober, possessing a clean judicial record, unexposed, engaged in great causes... helping make the world a better place rather than accelerating its decline.

  • EternalPerspective Eldersburg, MD
    Aug. 29, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    GZE

    I was far from the VMAs and not even aware they were going to be broadcast. I imagine most people who expressed an opinion about what happened on here are probably in the same boat.

    But, it's the news machine (for me internet based) that broadcasted her antics on every network and affiliation that made the story so public. The media machine makes it very hard to avoid things that might otherwise go unnoticed in the homes of latter day saints.

    But, you make a point, perhaps the news really isn't worth the time these days as well, since much of it is so sensationalized and entertainment focused anyways :). Much better things to do!

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    We have already shut down our television and use internet to watch favorite tv shows. I think that many more are likely to do so based on this performance (We didn't see it but by now we all know about it). Don't chalk this up too readily as a victory for this individual and the commercial concerns for which she did it.

    Hollywood, I believe, is already losing out financially, and new film studios having success, and cable and satellite TV are struggling more than a little. In such an economic downturn luxuries are being jettisoned all around and that includes TV programming, videos and cinemas. Don't like this terrible performance on MTV? Turn down cable and satellite tv options that do not permit you to select exactly what you want and do not pay for and eliminate what you don't want available in your home. If you can't afford it now might be a good time to terminate your service.

  • D-56 Riverton, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    Why is anyone surprised at the antics of Achy Breaky's daughter... Like father, like daughter..

  • GZE SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    Why were all you people watching the VMAs? With the history of this annual telecast, you knew there would be something that would offend you. And yet you watched anyway so you could be outraged on Monday morning. That seems a bit odd to me. Next time, don't watch. Find something else to do and include your children so they can't watch either.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Aug. 29, 2013 7:54 a.m.

    Ep.
    Yes you should turn the cheek. Cause you will not gain from expressing thoughts on a newspaper comment board.
    Everyone has an opinion these days.
    And I guess this is mine as well.

  • EternalPerspective Eldersburg, MD
    Aug. 29, 2013 5:14 a.m.

    Aggielove

    We live with cultural values where tolerance is touted more than standing up for what is true and right. Renouncing something as wrong is now labeled unfair "judgment" of merely public behavior over someone's "true" identity. Such is deception.

    People here expressing disdain of Miley's performance at the VMAs are saying, "love the sinner...hate the sins". Jesus Christ spent much time with sinners teaching doctrine, conveying love in a personal way, and demonstrating the example of righteousness. And of course, we all sin and fall short of the glory of God.

    But, should we cease questioning anything that we know is wrong because it does not match our personal standards of morality, decency, and principles? If someone cannot recognize the peril of downward spiral with popular culture that has been perpetuating for many decades now, they are kidding themselves. Miley is only one example.

    Parents perhaps have the greatest sensitivity to the hyper-sexuality and other undesirable behaviors conveyed in many public forums, media content, and so forth. We can plainly see that our children are subject to more temptations having greater consequences than ever before in the history of the world. This is not okay.

  • Michael Matthews Omaha, NE
    Aug. 29, 2013 4:34 a.m.

    What MIley Cyrus did was just the natural progression of what Hollywood does with values and morals. Shock, make money, repeat. Her only fault was that she went too fast. Brooklyn Decker, the SI swimsuit model says she's shocked. Really?? Miley probably sees what she is doing as the same as Brooklyn's acts. Brooke Shields is shocked... how did she get started in the biz? Mainstream media embraces the likes of Kim Kardashian and Paris HIlton... why? Their acts that launched them into the spotlight are certainly more shocking than this one. Why does Hollywood and the Media act this way?

    We are why. Our society pays attention and by doing so, our money goes. Every click on that salacious news story. Every time we watch anything immoral. Everytime we pick up that Cosmopolitan or SI swimsuit issue. Everytime we wear that outfit that is just a little too short or a little too tight, we contribute to our society's norms and values. Miley Cyrus is just a reflection of ourselves as a society. Every action we've done along those lines has contributed to what she is right now.

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:58 p.m.

    Three days later and this is still on the front page??? Hilarious! Miley, and her family, know exactly what they are doing, and all the conservative uproar is only helping them more. Don't like it, don't watch it - YOU hold the power to turn off the TV, and YOU have the power to talk to your kids about proper behavior, don't expect someone else to do it for you because you're too lazy.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:41 p.m.

    Miley is such a poor role model that it is embarrassing people did not walk out. Good job Moms who are teaching their kids to avoid anything like this.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:30 p.m.

    Why is this a 'dear daughter' moment? If you've done your job, the stupid antics of Ms.Cyrus are but a stupid sideshow to a daughter who by now knows trash when she sees it.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Aug. 28, 2013 9:40 p.m.

    Add my vote to those who want "ala carte" programming to come to cable, Dish Network and DirecTV. Sure, I can turn off those channels I don't want to watch, but I am still forced to have to pay for them with the way the programming packages are offered.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Aug. 28, 2013 9:39 p.m.

    @Midvaliean

    "jumping to judge"

    Huh? You have got to be kidding. All Miley needed was a pole and her act would have been complete. There was absolutely nothing about her "bump and grind" act that I considered valid entertainment for 14 year olds.

    I found what she did disgusting and tasteless.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Aug. 28, 2013 9:24 p.m.

    This is her choice. Plain and simple.
    Do I agree? No
    But don't throw stones.
    I've done way to much of that in my short life.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    Sounds like everyone is jumping to judge yet no one person really knows Miley. Just her act. They are in fact "actors" with a persona. I'll teach my daughter to manipulate the masses like Miley, and I will have succeeded.

  • Acegrace Lilburn, GA
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    Pretty is as pretty does - this was NOT PRETTY!

  • bw00ds Tucson, AZ
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:20 p.m.

    And my family didn't even know about this until it hit online news sources. (I think my kids still do not know. Cyrus is not even on their radar.) That is because we do not watch TV. Haven't since 1990. The Miley Cyruses, the Lady Gagas, and the originator of public sleeze, Madonnas of the world have no power at all if you do not pay attention to them. Turn the TV off. As long as it is on, the networks will continue to broadcast garbage like this. Then it eventually will truly become a consumer choice/control media/market by choosing what programs you will watch from the Internet.

  • Arm of Orion Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    BYU track star your comment is spot on!

  • BYU Track Star Los Angeles, CA
    Aug. 28, 2013 5:57 p.m.

    On Sunday night Miley Cyrus put on a performance at MTV's Video Music Awards that appeared specifically contrived to elicit controversy and, by Monday morning, sure enough the controversy had arrived.

    For those who missed it, Cyrus put on a performance that ranged from simply bizarre to crudely offensive. Such a performance is bait, and I use that term on purpose, for the more sanctimonious set to thunder about the degradation of our society.

    If on cue, the Parents Television Council, a nonprofit "watchdog" group and perennial foil of naughty media everywhere, issued a press release condemning the VMAs, which, of course, succeeded in little more than drawing more attention to them.

    The council called also for legislation that would allow viewers to select cable stations buffet-style rather than getting stuck with multiple channels they don't want. I'm actually sympathetic to this kind of a la carte cable system (although adult viewers should have the opportunity to select more adult-oriented channels if they wish and efforts to scrub cable clean seem nannyish).

    People, we were had by Miley plain and simple. This was a premediated attempt to get our attention and I think it worked.