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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 27 2013 9:43 p.m. MDT

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SomeClarityPlease
Quiet Neighborhood, UT

Maybe the horses enjoy having something productive to do (pulling carriages) compared to other people that come to mind.

BYR
West Bountiful, UT

I do not understand how removing carriage horses will prevent them from dying. IF the object is to not allow horses to die on the street, are not humans equally important? Should we remove every human from the streets? Rest in peace Jerry. Thank you for your service.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

Ban cars, ban bikes, ban planes, ban mountains, ban ....oh wait, hold on...ban people!!!

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Most of us believe in freedom and live and let live.
Why can't some people just go away and leave the rest of us alone?

Horses are expensive. Is a business really going to put that investment at risk?

Not a chance.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

PETA doesn't want any interaction between humans and animals. If they had their way we wouldn't have pet dogs, cats, etc.

I am all for insuring that the horses are well cared for and that measures are taken to avoid injuries to the animals. But to ban the horses from serving downtown from one incident is over-reacting.

I know it. I Live it. I Love it.
Salt Lake City, UT

Horse health is best.
Horse is healthier when working, instead of sitting around all day looking pretty.

Therefore, a working horse is a healthier horse.

The best way to care for animals isn't to protest other people who won't change their mind, nor pass laws to force people who won't be forced. The best way to care for animals isn't talking about how to care for animals.

The best way to care for animals... is to care for animals. If your priority is caring for animals, buy more animals and care for them. Any more or less than that isn't really caring for animals, but investing your time in something else.

trueblue87
Provo, UT

I disagree with Mr. Garrott's opinion that it is a problem that they can't suspend Carriage for Hire's license until they have evidence of not complying with ordinances. My question for him is: were you able to suspend or yank his license immediately only to later find out that there were no violations, would you compensate Carriage for Hire for the lost revenue for the time frame their license is suspended?

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

It would be nice if these PETA people put as much effort into Human Rights as they do animal rights.

That being said, when temperatures are 100, it is even hotter on paved streets. Maybe it is time to regulate conditions of which these animals work in.

BYU Joe
MISSION VIEJO, CA

A horse is a working animal. A carriage ride in SLC is a delightful and romantic event - especially on a crisp autumn night.

Yes please treat the animal correctly but stop imposing your view of the universe on the rest of us. If you really think this is an issue - buy up all the carriages and horses and either run it the way you think it should be run or close it down. You take the financial loss. In other words put up or shut up.

We have way to many laws - way too many. We certainly do not need one more banning the last link to a horse drawn past.

Besides, I figured you nice folks liked the idea of horses, no gas engines, nor CO2 and not traffic.

iron&clay
RIVERTON, UT

Up until just over 100 years ago, our ancestors relied upon horse-drawn carriages and horses in general for transportation. Along comes the iron horse and the horseless carriage and the poor old horse is now out to pasture and has lost it's high calling in life.

Give horses back their dignity. Let's do away with the cars and the bars and the wars!

Lobotech
Grantsville, UT

Seems some people have entirely too much spare time on their hands. The poor horse died, that is sad. Their answer? Lets all protest. Amazing.

md
Cache, UT

80 people with nothing better to do with their time. A horse died. Big deal.

How about protesting the killing of the WW2 veteran in the parking lot by two street thugs?

How about protesting healthcare reform which is bankrupting our country and ruining healthcare?

I should have gone downtown yesterday and protested silly protesters....wait....I had to work.

SME
Bountiful, UT

"Until we can prove that they have violated part of our ordinance, we can't yank or even suspend their permits," he said. "That's a problem, and that needs to change."

He means the Salt Lake City council must follow the law and can't yank a business permit on a whim? Oh the horror. Surely it would much better if all businesses were at the whim of politicians responding to the protest du jour.

(That is sarcasm for those who are sarcasm impaired)

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

From the uproar and protests, one would think that horses were dropping like flies on the streets of Salt Lake City. If we're to be consistent, we need to also call for a ban on motor vehicles in SLC the next time a pedestrian is hit by a car and ban trains as soon as someone wanders on the tracks and is hit by one. After all, both of those happen with far more frequency than the death of a horse whose demise might just as well have happened on a farm or ranch (the place where most horses with colic meet their maker).

Before backing PETA, keep in mind that they're the radical group that would ban you from eating meat or owning pets. Be wary of affiliating with them.

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

The USA is on the verge of being sucked into another war in the middle east and all that is on these peoples minds is Jerry?

I suspect that since Jerry was part of someone's business, he was probably cared for very well. Certainly he may have preferred a life in the wild, 20 years ago, but after so many years of pulling a cart he would not know how to live any other way. There is a saying about "Beating a dead horse" that comes to mind but is probably inappropriate to use in this comment (Out of respect for Jerry. But some how I do not think he would mind.). Maybe Jerry went out of this world doing what he loved to do. Would that we all could spend our last day doing what we love to do.

Anyway, people if you want to carry a sign, protest what is going on in Syria. Or, do we feel that that situation is hopeless and there is nothing that we can do about it, and protesting a dead horse is maybe the only thing we can influence some change.

dustmagnet
heber city, UT

I've owned horses for 40+ years. I've never seen a horse "colic" in the manner that Jerry did. Colicy horses get up and down, kick at their stomachs, etc. they don't just collapse and never get up again as a first symptom. His actions, to me, were not of colic but of some other illness, and it needs to be investigated.
Should animals die needlessly and wastefully JUST so someone can profit from them? A Horses legs were not designed to take the stress of walking on hard asphalt or cement surfaces for extended periods of time. They are a herd animal, where they feel safest with other like kind around when stressed by noise, etc. What has happened to society, where the feelings and well being of others (including animals) no longer matter. Where it seems anything goes for personal gain.
But lets look at this from a human point of view - we don't see humans out in 90+ degree heat with the unrelenting pollution of SLC pulling carts for 8 hours at a time with no choice in the matter.

Rynn
Las Vegas, NV

I will not condemn these people because they are only showing compassion for one of God's creatures. That is not a bad character trait.

ute alumni
paradise, UT

dusty
we don't see horses riding humans in any degree weather. your argument is odd

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

Meanwhile, the butchering goes on in the Middle East.

BYU Joe
MISSION VIEJO, CA

As for working in the heat - I spent most of my youth on a construction site in unbelievable heat. I carried bricks, wheelbarrows, dug ditches and broke concrete with a sledge hammer. I remember many days soaring into the 110's. My boss would bark at us when we slowed down and used to tell me that I should thank him for each bead of sweat that fell off my nose and made me a man.

I, like the horse, worked because I had to (I had no choice either). I had rent to pay and was trying to go to school.

Oh and as for the pollution - I was working in San Bernardino CA, that's pollution. I did this for years before I finally graduated school. And while I moved on - trust me - there are countless people who still make a living working in the hot sun. Maybe you ought to focus your protests on their jobs.

But I am guessing that one who complains about the horse working in the heat has probably spent his or her life in the cool air conditioned rooms of a school or office, not on a construction site.

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