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Published: Sunday, Aug. 25 2013 8:48 a.m. MDT

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Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

There is a positive spin on Utah having to play Stanford and Oregon this year. It couldn't be much worse than the record they had the last couple years against Cal & Washington (1-3...0-2 in 2011). So the record shouldn't be any different than it was in 2011 losing both games to the teams Stanford and Oregon are replacing. So get it done utes...7-5 is possible, make it happen. Best of luck, I'll be pulling for U...except the 21st of course.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Out first two years have been EXACTLY as we thought, as tough as that is.

PAC 12 teams have PAC 12 athletes.

Each year we are getting more PAC 12 talent that is replacing Mwc kids.

Every year since our PAC 12 invite our recruiting has INCREASED, both in average stars AND better head to head recruiting against the other in state schools.

That is exactly what we knew would happen as the PAC 12 is better and better athletes want to play on better conferences with better teams and better teammates.

Coincidence we have beat byu and usu in recruiting every year since our invite?

Nope!

Point is, it's going just as Kyle has said it would.

100% behind Kyle!

8-4 season and as good a chance at PAC 12 title game as anyone in south.

Only Colorado doesn't have a chance.

Mark that down, 8-4

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

It's tough being in the second best league in the nation.

But it's a challenge we welcome!

We all knew it would take a few years to improve recruiting

That has happened. Thanks to our prestigious conference invite. And winning prestigious bowl games and finishing with the best record in the country.

I think this is the year we prove we belong and will be a force in the PAC 12

8-4 season.

And the non-power conference teams in Utah will continue to be jealous of our power conference membership!

We own byu and usu thinks a single win is equal to our 15 game domination over them!

Don't Feed the Trolls
Salt Lake City, UT

Having Standford and the Ducks may be more difficult, but the Utes only managed 1 win and 3 losses against Cal and Washington. Lose by 19 to the Huskies or 90 to Oregon, a loss is still a loss on the record.

UteinIdaho
Sandpoint, ID

Wow, this will be the 5th comment posted, and there has been no ridiculous nonsense bantering from opposing fans. Cougsndawgs, thanks for your nice post. Chris B, I admire your optimism and boy do I hope your right!
In my opinion, it's sad to say, but considering last year, and the schedule this year, 6-6 would be a success. I am counting on 7-5 and agree with Chris B that 8-4 is possible. I really think that in year 3 we REALLY need a staple Pac12 win. I think our best chance at that is Stanford at home. That's a lofty goal, but I think it's possible. And that is the kind of win we need to show that we belong

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

I, too, agree that an 8-4 season is possible. Lost in the discussion of last year's season is the fact that the Utes' quarterback situation was disastrous. Coach Whitt had put all of his faith in a healthy Wynn, the same guy who had led Utah to a Poinsettia Bowl win over now-fellow PAC 12 member Cal. After Wynn went down once and for all, we were left with no real QB-in -waiting. We still could have won 8-10 games in the MWC, but not in the PAC 12. But Utah has more talent and depth at quarterback now than I've ever seen. (Can't wait for both Manning and Cox to get their chance some day). And there's a ton of talent in the running backs and receiving corps. I just hope that the D can come through. Reilly, Orchard, Blechen, and Rowe have all got to step up. If these things can come together, and we can avoid major injuries, I don't think 8-4 is unrealistic at all.

Go Utes!

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

It all depends on Erickson and Wilson. If they can get the offense to perform as a top 50 offense then I think we have a chance at 8-4.

Wins: CU and Weber State
Should win: USU, @BYU, @WSU
Toss up: OSU, UCLA, ASU

Most likely loses: @USC, @UA
Loses: Standford, @Oregon

I think after Thursdays game we'll know if this is an 8-4 team or not.

Go UTES!!

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

christy

"Out first two years have been EXACTLY as we thought, as tough as that is."

LOL at your desperate attempt to rewrite history. Here's what you really thought:

Chris B
9:04 p.m. Sept. 11, 2011

"Let's consider chances of going to a BCS bowl:

Pac 12 tournament of champions
Don't play Oregon
Don't play Stanford
USC can't go to Pac 12 championship game
1 of 2 best teams in Division

Chances of BCS Rose Bowl: Utah 40%; Oregon 60%"

Two years ago, you predicted that the Utes were only slightly less than a coin flip away from playing in the Rose Bowl.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Uteology:
You honestly think USU & BYU are "should wins"? Both are ranked ahead of Utah, and USU beat Utah last year & has 18 returning starters, while BYU was a FG away from taking the utes to OT at RES, while this year the game is in Provo. I would label those as toss-up games along with OSU & UCLA. I would also put ASU as a "most likely loss" because Utah has yet to be competitive with them on the field. Other than that I think the rest of your list is accurate, though I have gone on record before, and again now, as saying Utah will upset Stanford at RES this year. I think that's a favorable matchup for the utes with upset written all over it. Cheers.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Cougsndawgs, I would place USU and BYU as somewhere between "should win" and "toss up" for Utah, assuming a healthy, intact Utah team. Last year, a couple injuries and an ejection at USU played a key role in USU's OT win, and those same injuries, along with a couple more, hurt the Utes against BYU. BYU should be slightly improved this year, as should Utah, but both teams' records at the end of the year may not reflect it.

UteinIdaho
Sandpoint, ID

I agree that both USU and BYU should be in the "should win" column. We are favored over USU and we have had byu's number. If we beat USU, as I think we should, we will likely be favored over the cougs. The only part of Uteology's list that I would change is swapping ASU and UA. ASU has owned us, and they return Taylor Kelly. Although I admit I'm a bit scared to face Rich Rod in his second year, they've got a new QB, and I think that will be the difference.
(Side note: I recently rewatched last years UA game. Man we should have won that!!)

wwookie
Payson, UT

Uteanymous, two years ago the utes were a touchdown away from playing in the pac 12 championship. Chrissy's prediction was pretty darn close (except the BCS bowl part.

Are you trying to give him credence?

Utes have a chance to win most games. Only Oregon is really out of reach barring Duck injuries.

No one really knows how this team will perform, just like the first year in the PAC. Which is exactly why Chris's prediction in 2011 was pretty darn good.

Don't Feed the Trolls
Salt Lake City, UT

"PAC 12" is an excuse I don't think Whitt deserves. The cupboard was bare the last two years at running back and backup QB. John White emerging was an absolute miracle (aided by a great OC), and the lack of a backup is the coach's recruiting fault. (shouldn't he have been able to recruit a few Qbs to a BCS Bowl/PAC 12 school?

If the Utes don't show real improvement, KW should be gone.

Chris B's momma
Idaho Falls, ID

Chris has a bad memory. He predicted greatness right away. I know, I wrote it down. I'm afraid we are looking at 3-9 this year.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...Blechen...".

The UTES counted on "...Blechen..." last year...

Then found out he had his mind on something else...

Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice shame on me.

When you have 11 guys on the field and 10 are wondering if the 11th guy has anybody's back...

the defense will continue to look like it did last year.

sammyg
Springville, UT

"Out first two years have been EXACTLY as we thought, as tough as that is."

A blatant out and out lie.

LOL at your failed attempt at your remedial U of U Revisionist History class assignment.

The general consensus of the majority of Ute fans at the time of the invitation was that the Utes would compete immediately and that Rose Bowling was imminent.

Losing to Colorado and the circumstances around that 'golden' opportunity in 2011 were based on other team's performance issues. A 7-5 overall record and a 4-5 conference record is not what we call competing in a conference.

Year two was worse.

Only after two seasons of sub-par conference performance and no-bowling last year has the dialog changed to "it's going to take some time".

LOL

idaho cougar fan
Twin Falls, ID

Your funny Chris B and the rest of the Ute fans. Haven't ever commented on a solely Ute article, but couldn't help but laugh my head off when I saw Chris B. predict an 8-4 year. I personally hope they do well, I like Kyle and don't want him on the hot seat. Also it makes a cougar victory that much sweeter over a good Ute team and not a bad Ute team. Good luck Utes!!

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

sammyg

"The general consensus of the majority of Ute fans at the time of the invitation was that the Utes would compete immediately and that Rose Bowling was imminent."

You're absolutely correct. Two years ago, the general consensus amongst the majority of Utah fans was that Utah's BCS bowl win over Alabama had proven that the Utes could compete with anybody and, therefore, the Utes would be instantly competitive in the PAC, with Rose Bowls imminent. Utah fans brushed aside as ludicrous every BYU fan's suggestion that the Utes could be the next Arizona, 30 years in the PAC and still no Rose Bowl.

It wasn't until the Utes were beat down by every PAC team with a winning record that they played in their first two years, and their disastrous losing, bowl-less season, that Utah fans adopted their new "it's going to take some time" narrative.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

Uteology

Your groupings are a bit off.

Here's the true order:

Wins: Weber State
Should win: CU and @WSU
Toss up: USU
Most likely loses: @USC, @UA, @BYU, OSU, UCLA, ASU
Loses: Stanford, @Oregon

Likely 4-8, but could be 3-9 or 5-7

killarney
Lincoln Park, IL

The hard reality for Utah fans is the Utes could have a better team this season, and still finish with the same record as last season, or worse.

Same thing is true of BYU, although BYU should win their game on September 21st.

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