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Published: Sunday, Aug. 25 2013 12:53 a.m. MDT

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Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

If the Utes fired Whittingham it would say a ton about the program and being unrealistic. Besides, who do the Utes think they can get for a similar price to replace him?

The Utes probably won't go bowling this year or the next. The team is too young and inexperienced. However, given time they will grow and be a team others will respect. The Utes have decent talent and come 2015 if Whittingham is still the coach they will probably be in the mix for the South division and ranked. He flat out coaches and gets the most out of his team.

If the Utes abandon Whittingham, Utah will tailspin for another three or more years. Its possible things would get worse. Just don't go there. Whittingham should be given at minimum till 2016. He will get it done.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

TJ, almost thought you were serious about those predictions until that last one! Very funny, good stuff. Can't wait to talk later this season!

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

WACpaddled

"Regardless of how you cluelessly spin it, BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado."

Regardless of how many times you cluelessly post this meaningless stats, it's still MEANINGLESS>

The last time BYU played Colorado was in the 1988 Freedom Bowl, where beat Colorado 20-17.

BYU has beaten the Buffs 3 of the last 4 times they've met, including a 1981 beat down of the Buffs at Colorado 41-20 and 7-3 win in Provo in 1946.

The last time BYU lost to Colorado was a narrow 7-9 setback at Colorado in 1947.

The sorry Utes, on the other hand, lost to the 10-loss Buffs in 2011 and barely beat the 11-lost Buffs by 42-35 in 2012.

Regardless of how you frantically and emotionally try to spin it, BYU has done MUCH better against Colorado in the last 67 years, since 1946 (3-1) than your sorry Utes (6-10-1)

idaho cougar fan
Twin Falls, ID

Chris B.

I've written it down and will call you out when it doesn't happen! Good luck!

Out of State Utah fan
Alpharetta, GA

@ Duckhunter: there is that BYU arrogance we are all familiar with. Why are out of star fans less knowledgable about their team than an in state fan of the rival team?

WON84
PLANO, TX

"Look for BYU to make a 2nd offer if he's fired from Utah."

Yes, he'd make a great defensive coordinator allowing more focus from the top on the offense.

Hopefully he is not fired though. He's a good guy.

WON84
PLANO, TX

"Utah has never had three consecutive losing conference seasons."

Part of this is due to the fact that there have been many seasons where BYU was the only tough conference game. The MWC provided some seasons where this was not the case but, that was toward the end.

Also, the Pac 12 is probably second to the SEC in strength this coming season. If Whittingham finds a way to break even he should receive a pay increase.

Out of State Utah fan
Alpharetta, GA

Comment should have read, in STATE fans. Fairly certain that most BYU fans are from out of state. An apology to Co Ute might be in order.

WON84
PLANO, TX

"Regardless of how you cluelessly spin it, there's NO Excuse for losing at home to a 10-loss team that hadn't won a road game in four years.

________

Regardless of how you cluelessly spin it, BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado."

And when was the last time they played? Yeah...

WON84
PLANO, TX

"Out of State Utah fan

Alpharetta, GA

@ Duckhunter: there is that BYU arrogance we are all familiar with. Why are out of star fans less knowledgable about their team than an in state fan of the rival team?"

Well, haven't seen your name on BYU comment boards (I am only here to wish KW well) but, if you ever visit one you'll see every single one is opened by Ute fans. The comments are not well wishing and many pertain to recruiting "star" rankings (maybe you were referencing?).

But, to answer your question you get air time on both daily. In Texas, it's rare to hear about either though ESPN radio occassionally mentions Van Noy.

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

@Zorro,

"Here's the harsh reality folks.
Since UA & ASU joined the PAC 8 35 years ago,they have reaped:

UA- 1-Tri Champion

ASU- 2x Champion
1 Co-Champion
In 35 years!!!!!

If UA & ASU can't do it how do think you can??? REALLY?... REALLY?
COME ON MAN!..."

First of all, why judge Utah on ASU and UA's situations? What makes you think that Utah can't do it just because those AZ universities couldn't do it? Look, as much as I dislike and hate much of the absurd venom from some Utah fans, I still do think their program is far from being bad. I think Kyle and the Utes are on their way to making some noise in the Pac 12 and I hope they will. Just give them time. As long as we beat them whenever and wherever we meet, I want them to wildly succeed and beat everyone else. I love the Utes. I just happen to love BYU much more!

Go Cougars! And go Utes too!

J-TX
Allen, TX

"Utah has never had three consecutive losing conference seasons."

Until this year.

And FYI, I am not a BYU fan, just an impartial observer from a state that plays REAL Football. I have a suspicion that our HS team could beat either BYU or Utah this year....

- A Duck Fan (I moved to TX from OR.)

Out of State Utah fan
Alpharetta, GA

@ WON84 : Greetings to TX! Love that area. Big Dallas Stars fan. I love reading these comment boards but had to call out Duckhunter's opinion that in STATE fans know their rival's team better than a fan living out of state.

You are correct that many of the earliest posts on articles are from rival fans - both sides are equal in the smack talk. Look, folks - neither team has proven themselves this year and living in SEC country, both teams are hardly acknowledged down this way. Except some do remember that Utah beat Alabama one year and that BYU beat GA tech and the GA tech fans want that corrected!

Utah fan through and through. Utah football has greater potential and the better opportunity to get where it wants to be. Kyle Wittingham has a few years to go before a losing season does him in.

DrUte
Woods Cross, UT

Hard to fathom why ANY conjecture exists concerning Coach Whitt's job security...

His departure has about the same probability as Warren Jeffs' full pardon, his subsequent conversion to Catholicism, election as Pope, and relocation of the Holy See from Rome to San Angelo, Texas.

Now THAT would be worth some DN ink.

The UofU, Dr. Hill, and Coach Whitt are joined at the hip.

ROCK: Get Real.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@out of state utah "fan"

Pretty simple really. People that live in state have better access to more information than those that live out of state, for the most part. Instate people have the local news to watch which is focused on instate teams. We have the local radio stations to listen to, we have the local papers to read (not everything printed in the papers is also posted in the online editions), we have friends and neighbors that actually work at the universities, have children, friends and aquaintences playing at and attending the universities, and many of us have ties to the universities which take us to them on a regular basis and many times that means right into the sports programs.

It is just a simple matter of being here.

I like how my pointing out that obvious truth caused you to call me "arrogant" though, especially when you consider the arrogance of the poster I was replying to who was calling BYU fans opinions "irrelevant". utah "fans" like yourself never disappoint with the hypocrisy though. lol

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

From Kevin Gemmell--

"I think you have to give Utah at least four seasons in the Pac-12 -- a full class cycle -- before you can start passing judgment on Whittingham. Remember, not only are they adjusting to a higher level of play every week, but they need a grace period to re-work how they operate their program. Utah is seeing television money never thought possible in the Mountain West, and part of the learning curve is figuring out the proper way to appropriate that funding. Hiring Dennis Erickson is a great start -- a move they never would have been able to make financially in a non-AQ conference. Nor would a non-AQ team be able to attract a big-name coach like Erickson to be a coordinator. Let the money sink in, let the new facilities work their magic on recruits and if Utah has a four- or five-year bowl drought, then you can open up discussions. But Whittingham -- who I believe to be an outstanding coach -- should be sitting on ice for now."

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Marked it Down
Park City, UT said:

"WACpaddled

"Regardless of how you cluelessly spin it, BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado."

Regardless of how many times you cluelessly post this meaningless stats, it's still MEANINGLESS>"

WAC legacy fans wrote the book on meaningless stats to boost their egos to make up for the lack of a real conference invite. How funny that you accuse others.

Chris B. 4 Prez!
Salt Lake City, UT

@J-TX:

As an uprooted Ducks fan living among Longhorn fans, your opinion is that our version of football is not real. (At least, as not as real as in Oregon, or Texas.) Last time I checked, the Utes really DID whoop 'Bama! Longhorns football has been REALLY fake and overrated as of late! And your Ducks can't seem to win when it really MATTERS, for that matter!

You suspect that your adopted Texas high school team could hang with either Utah or BYU...and everyone knows that wouldn't happen in a million years. (It's called REALITY, my friend!) Root for your Ducks proudly (I'm already agreeing that the Utes face quite a tall order in Eugene! But, no taller than when they were given a 1% chance of beating 'Bama!!) and best of luck dealing with the repercussions that invariably come from your surrounding Longhorns neighbors, who believe they're better than everyone on the planet! Even more so than the masquerading fans of Yale! Er, TDS (team down south)! GO UTES

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Marked it Down--

"Regardless of how many times you cluelessly post this meaningless stats, it's still MEANINGLESS"

What's utterly meaningless, is the incessant obsession of the byu fanbase in referencing this one, single game against CU in '11 when attempting to proclaim their team is better than ours. Our game against CU in '11 has zero to do with The U/byu, zero!

What's the matter, you can't reference the head-to-head meetings between The U/byu or something?

Here's the sole-reality of The U/byu--

3 straight, 4 of 5, 8 of 11, 13 of 20 and the insurmountable overall-record, 56-34-4. The U straight owns byu!

Next.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

AZUTE1

"What's utterly meaningless, is the incessant obsession of the byu fanbase in referencing this one, single game against CU in '11 when attempting to proclaim their team is better than ours."

What's utterly meaningless is the incessant obsession of the Ute fanbase trying to claim that a single game out of 12 or 13 somehow proves something.

Bottom line is:

2011 #25/#26/#34 BYU(10-3) BETTER than unranked/#39 Utah(8-5)
2012 unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) BETTER than unranked/#61 Utah(5-7)

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