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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 21 2013 7:50 p.m. MDT

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BH
Tremonton, UT

This is outrageous! Why are our leaders so willing to trample on the freedoms of the American people, all in the name of security? Don't they understand, that there is no real security when we give up our freedoms?

When we surrender our freedoms for security, all we do is change who it is that we are threatened by. Instead of the threat coming from terrorists, now the threat comes from our own government.

I remember in grade school, being taught that one of the great things about America, as opposed to other places in the world, was how free we were to come and go as we pleased, with no fear of the government restricting and monitoring our movements. It seems we are crossing a threshold into a society where we can no longer enjoy that freedom. And I fear we will not be able to return, without another revolutionary war.

From what has recently been revealed, we have learned that with the data the NSA collects, they can know exactly where each of us are, and who we associate with. When will Americans rebel against this loss of freedom?

tim_the_tool_man_taylor
Dallas, TX

It is crazy to me how they do this to ya'll and then you Utahns invite them right back into your own back yard--right in Bluffdale. Don't you think it is time to take a stand against these people who have no regard for our privacy?

Mark from Montana
Aurora, CO

If I express my anger at how caviler those who have sworn to uphold, defend and protect the constitution of the United States, will I be guilty of making terroristic threats?

I am disgusted by every elected official holding a national office, starting with Bush, then Obama, Hatch and on down.

They talk a great deal, they hold hearings and express their outrage, but do nothing about it. Oh how I wish I had the financial resources to file a suite against each and every one of them for violating my rights as granted by the constitution. They might as well start billeting soldiers in my home, barring me from attending the church of my choice and on and on and on. If those who have taken an oath of office to protect and defend the constitution so easily break that oath, our county is doomed.

Legal?
Saint George, UT

To BH and others--

Some observations:

We don't know yet what information gleaned from this surveillance may thwarted some incendiary plots and stopped needless bloodshed and mayhem.

Perhaps the price we pay to live in this country and be as safe as possible is this kind of activity. The world is a much different place than when we older folks were in school.

And perhaps what sets us apart from some other countries is how the information may be used. I suspect if we were in other countries, the communications which have already been intercepted may have resulted in some nasty repercussions for us common citizens.

Your further thoughts, please...

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

Well, golly gee willikers! What a shocking revelation. Our goobermint is spying on us.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

I am grateful we have a government able and willing to go after terrorists and Win.

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

Thank goodness. Glad to know they are doing their job of protecting us from any possible threats. I've got nothing to hide and gladly welcome their efforts.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

Just a reminder, the Salt Lake City Olympics was just five months after 9/11. On top of that, we as a people get real excited over others listening in but we continue to use cell phones, texts, emails, cordless phones and other devices that send our messages out there and then we act surprised when we lack privacy.
I am not saying that it is right, I am just saying we have never stopped to think about it. We have no privacy.

Pa. Reader
Harrisburg, PA

Amusing that those who cloak themselves in the supposed immunity of online commentary can be so outraged about this.
Since Google, Facebook and every other social media provider mines, sells and exploits data they collect, it's more than a little naive to claim any expectation of privacy.
The Internet is the electronic equivalent of the largest bathroom wall in the world, and anything one scrawls on that wall is there for all to see...
By the way, all governments spy. In our country there are laws in place to control intelligence agencies. Lobby to change those laws or to vote out the elected reps who have been privy to these programs if you are unhappy.
To feign outrage or shock over this is just silly.

christoph
Brigham City, UT

911 had just happened, I hope they did spy on us; we were at war and this was an international event.

The Dixie Kid
Saint George, UT

Who cares

Springvillepoet
Springville, UT

Last time I checked, The Patriot Act was originally passed by an overwhelming majority of Congress regardless of party affiliation and has been renewed without fail ever since. I find it amusing how so many people in Utah are big supporters of National Security, but balk when they 'suddenly discover' all of the baggage which comes with that security. Don't like it? Write your representative and demand them to repeal The Patriot Act and disband the Department of Homeland Security. Just don't feign surprise or outrage when you get what you wanted.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

If you all understood how this software works, you really wouldn't be too concerned. Yes, the idea of someone reading your private emails is a bit upsetting. But the bottom line is anything you do either wireless or connected via a wire is crossing over someone else's property, and you should reasonably expect it to be seen.

The technology being deployed is simply and advanced pattern matching algorithms... looking for modeled patterns. It does care about your cat or dog, who you are going out with (unless they are on the known terrorist list), or what you had for dinner - where - and the picture you posted of it on Facebook.

It is simply looking for patterns.... it doesn't understand what they mean other than to flag them.

In a perfect world... yes.... I would prefer we didn't have to do this. But the fact that people are dying because terrorist are using public communication channels to pull off their deeds justifies listening in to see if we can intercept these communications.

I am just trying to figure out how the regular crowd is going to blame this too on BO.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

All you that voted for GW Bush, you can stop with the outrage. You didn't care about it then but you care about it now?

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

“I am proud that Utah will be home to one of the most important facilities in our country dedicated to the defense of our nation against growing threats of terrorism and cyber warfare,” Bishop added. “I was pleased to join with the rest of Utah’s Congressional delegation in helping to secure the approvals necessary for this project to go forward and I will continue to support its continuing and vital role in our nation’s defense.” - Rob Bishop

"Our networks are increasingly under attack from a range of sources, everything from the hacker who steals your identity and runs up huge credit card bills to a coordinated assault on a nation’s computer infrastructure, as was seen in Estonia and Georgia. This threat is real and I am very proud the intelligence community is utilizing Utahns’ unique skills in this critical national security endeavor.” - Orrin Hatch

Thanks, Utah delegation for not only allowing spying on us, but letting us be the repository for that data. You're the greatest.

Christmas Carole
LAS CRUCES, NM

@Legal?
I too,feel somewhat torn up when I read about security(breach of privacy?). HOWEVER, I glean from this article, and others that I have read, that the problem so many citizens are having is derived from the extent of what is being done. I am interpreting(maybe with my own feelings entwined)that "everyday ho-jo-citizen" is being watched,listened to, etc. From what I am understanding our government agencies have gone way over the top...
@Pa. Reader
I feel as you do(and think many others do as well)in that we are all aware of our general lack of privacy. That said, we STILL as citizens of America need to express our outrage and disagreement when we feel it is warranted.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

Legal?: as you refer to "we older folks", this article suddenly gives a whole new meaning to "duck and cover"... ;)

Esquire
Springville, UT

I wonder how many of those who are outraged supported the Patriot Act.

Cedarcreek320
Star Valley Ranch, WY

It's going to be tough to blame President Obama for this one.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

Did Senators Bennett and Hatch and our Congress Representatives know of these action? Where was Governor Leavitt during this type of action?

I know security is important but it is supposed to be a shared responsibility with the federal government in a Constitutionally approved State of Utah.

It doesn't make any difference what party is supposedly in control as the bureaucrats running the real government and those have filtered to the one party rule over the decades since the Wilson and Roosevelt eras of controlling politics.

What else have they done with the secret unconstitutional powers they use on a daily basis?

We have to be involved with our government at all levels as power and influence is thwarting our rights as citizens of a country that was founded for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not having the rich and powerful telling us what we can do.

We the people need to be involved with our country's ruling power or we will lose the power that appears to have already been lost to the federal government.

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