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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 21 2013 9:58 a.m. MDT

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suess
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm glad Jerry is on the verge of recovery (what that means, I don't know -- will he recover or is it still not known) My sister was on scene as this happened. She is from Wyoming and we grew up around horses. As everyone was trying to figure out what to do, including the driver, she said they needed to get him unhooked from the carriage and get water for him, which they did. He was trying to get up and kept slipping and she told them they needed to get something that he could get his footing on to keep from falling and was told his horseshoes were made for the asphalt. Well and good, but they were still slipping. She stayed until authorities showed up and the people from the stable. I'm sure they are well taken care of, but I wonder how many of the drivers actually have horse experience and know what to do when an animal goes down. According to my sister, this driver didn't.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

150? I would bet that a heat index above 120 has never been exceeded in Salt Lake City (outside at least, in a car left in a parking lot that's a different matter).

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@J-TX
"If the temp is above 90-95, they shouldn't pull. What is that, 2 days a year in SLC?"

In the past 60 days at SLC, 56 of them have been 90+ (3 of the other 4 were 89 degrees).

Aunt Sue
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I love horses. They are animals who have a special relationship with humans. I have owned and trained them for pleasure riding. They are wonderful to just watch and be around. All of you who want the carriage rides stopped, please remember:
#1 Horses are expensive to keep, they could be put down because their owner could not afford them.
#2 They love what they do, it is easy for them, they are eager to work. They want to be picked to work each day.
#3 They work 6 hours a day, 3 or 4 days a week. The rest of their time is at pasture or in a stall.
#4 The horses are well fed, well groomed, well shod and well taken care of.
#5 They travel in and out of shade as they travel around the downtown, and rest in shade between trips. In the winter, they have a double thick coat of fur.
#6 A small business beloved of many people would close.
#7 The carriage drivers would be out of jobs.
These horses work part-time at a job they love, with full medical, hoof and dental care, housing and meals included. Leave them and this business alone.

Danish American
Payson, UT

I agree. It's so cruel to have horses do what they were created to do so let's just send them all to the packing house to be made into dog food.

Aunt Sue
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I love horses and have owned, ridden and trained them for pleasure riding. They have a special relationship with humans, and are wonderful to watch and just be around. For those who think they should not be pulling carriages downtown, please remember:
1 Horses are expensive to keep. If they do not work, they could be put down because of the cost.
2 They love to work. They come to the fence wanting to work.
3 They work 6 hours a day, 3 to 4 days a week, and spend the rest of the time at pasture or in a stall.
4 They are in good condition, well groomed and well fed, with water kept under the carriage.
5 They work part-time at an easy job they love, with full health, hoof and dental care, housing and food included.
6 They travel in and out of shade as they travel downtown, and rest in the shade between trips.
7 In the winter, they have double thick fur.
8 A beloved small business would be forced to close.
9 Carriage drivers would lose their jobs.
10 They add to the charm and delight of our city. Leave them alone.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Humain Society said, "The question always comes back to whether animals should be used for this purpose". What purpose? Pulling a cart? Of course horses can be used to pull a cart! Horses have used for pulling carts for hundreds of years!

I don't think it's any harder to pull a wagon on a city street than it is on a farm.

If car fumes are the problem... then maybe it's the cars that should go, not the horses.

mbenfield
Wooster, OH

I totally agree with Beaver Native. Enough water, shade and. not being over worked in the mid day heat is common sense for an owner. Perhaps Spring and Fall would be better options for carriage rides. Greed should never trump responsible ownership of animals. All animals.

ulvegaard
Medical Lake, Washington

This is the order of the day: if it is difficult, quit; if it is challenging file a protest; if it requires effort and thought, walk away.

I appreciate PETA and the Human Society for their original mission statements. But out of boredom (and we can only be glad they didn't just shoot the horse out of boredom) they seem anxious to become involved in all things whether they understand all aspects of the situation or not -- if an animal is moving, it must be a bad thing.

A little work never hurt anyone, and some may even suggest that it is actually a benefit and not a curse. We have enough humans who no longer wish to work, let's not impose that same corrupt philosophy onto the animal kingdom as well.

r0cky74
Erda, UT

Are the horses receiving adequate care? That is the real question here. How often are they watered? Can they find water when they want to? The heat is unbearable for people walking on days like this. Add a nice thick coat on top of the heat coming off the asphalt and it would seem that 150 degree heat index is way too high. I know everybody has to make a living, but certainly more consideration and care should be given to the well being of the horse.

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