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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 20 2013 1:40 p.m. MDT

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Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

utahcountyute

"One thing not mentioned (big surprise) is the level of competition."

More whiny excuses about "level of competition" from the hill kids?

BYU played FIVE Top 25 teams in 2012; Utah only played TWO.

UCLA(6-8) and ASU(6-7) both had LOSING seasons in 2011 and USC(7-6) wasn't much better in 2012.

And U also forgot to mention Utah "running up the score" on 10- and 11-loss Colorado, Washington State, and Big Sky teams.

The spin and hyperbole from the hill never stops.

Just say'n.

Floyd Johnson
Broken Arrow, OK

Compliments to the author, you are providing excellent data.

We have seen defensive statistics and offensive statistics. Now we need end of season ranking and strength of schedule. I wonder if it is possible to clearly chart preseason rankings along with end of season rankings to evaluate if teams met or exceeded expectations each year. Perhaps number of wins could be charted on the same graphic as strength of schedule.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

No surprise here; with rare exceptions, BYU has had a better offense than Utah since the LaVell Edwards era began.

More fuel for the fire...

College Football Rankings: The Top 50 2013 Team Schedule Posters

#10 BYU

didn't make the cut Utah

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

One thing not mentioned (big surprise) is the level of competition. For the last 2 years the Cougars and Aggies are dealing with the likes of Boise, Notre Dame, Oregon State and Wisconsin (go AGGIES!). While the Utes have been beating up and running up the score on the likes of Washington State and Colorado.

Oh.

Wait a minute. U LOST to Colorado? And eked out an overtime win at Wazzu? And that was your good season???

What are u guys gonna do this year when u finally DO play a true PAC schedule?

Just say'n.

Lionute
Payson, UT

Rankings? Please someone help me. When do they count. The final ranking? For example, SJSU finished ranked in the final poll. They spent a total of one week in the poll. Utah State spent two weeks in the polls. Utah State was not ranked when Utah played them. BYU was ranked when Utah played them. Same can be said for UCLA. Arizona and Washington were both ranked during the season. In fact Arizona spent as much time in the polls as USU. So my question is when do they count. I don't know, but I am under the impression they are nothing more than opinions from selected coaches and sports writers. In my opinion the only ranking that matters is if your team, Alabama the past two years, finishes on top of the final rankings. With my calculations, Utah played BYU, USC, OSU, UCLA, Washington, USU, and Arizona. Thats 7 teams that were ranked last year. So when do they count. Yes I understand some teams peak early and some late. Injuries can add to the confusion. I'm not looking for an argument, just some to tell me when they count with some good rationale to defend their view.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

Pre-season and mid-season rankings are simply a snap-shot of projected or current state.

Some teams start off hot, then cool off. Others struggle early, then finish the season strong. The point is, nobody knows just how a good a particular team, or their opponents, is until their entire body of work can be evaluated. 2012 pre-season AP #1 USC finished the season 7-6 with a loss to Georgia Tech(7-7) in the Sun Bowl. No reasonable fan would try to claim that their team played a ranked USC team just because the Trojans were ranked before USC demonstrated that they didn't deserve to be ranked.

A team that started the season 6-0, but finished 6-6, would never try to claim that they had an undefeated season.

A team that was 6-6 before their bowl, but lost their bowl game, still finished 6-7 with a losing record. It doesn't matter whether you slipped below .500 in your first game of the season or your last, you still finished with a losing record.

Final ranking is the only ranking that counts.

NevadaCoug
Overton, NV

Looking at the those numbers, one thing jumped out at me.
That 2001 Cougar offense was really, really good.
And they could have put up even bigger numbers had Doman and Staley not spent half the 3rd and entire 4th quarters on the bench in a handful of the games.
Had they been able to stay healthy (Staley, leg; Doman; shoulder), they could have had a really special season.

TanMan_101
West Jordan, UT

@DeepBlue
Yet, how many BCS bowl wins does BYU have?

mattb7
Sterling, VA

These are very interesting data to factor into explaining a couple of other stats: Utah beating BYU 13 of the last 20 games and seven of the last 10. I recognize that these stats are just about winning--you know, whole team effort rather than just one-half.

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