Missed the mark & tardy to the party there DN.THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT
and are in jail....But then, you and yours have always been behind the
@scodyshootfight;[missionary ping] Hello, I'm a rep... have you
ever heard about the CoJCoLDS?[reply ping] Hold on a sec, let me
google it.... Oh, you're the church that believes Native Americans are
descendents of... founded by a ... located in SLC... can't drink wine...
or have tea or coffee... MUST PAY 10%? No thanks.[missionary ping]
Never mind, have a nice day.Doesn't seem like a particularly
enjoyable mission to me... (just sayin).@raybies;Ciao
Any real missionary is asleep at 6:20 am, having to get up in 10 minutes. Sleep
is very valuable as a missionary, because no matter how much of the 8 hours you
sleep, you're still tired.
Folks, our missionaries here do not tract door-to-door at all. They're too
busy going to pre-set appointments. And they also tend to wear short-sleeved
shirts in the summer when the temps are 110 daily. Just FYI.
Note to robbers. Better disguise would be Relief Society sisters bearing
casseroles or better yet, deacons with the blue Fast Offering envelopes.
What did they talk about for 5 minutes before the robbery? I wonder if they
gave him a Book of Mormon.
@JcB in TX- Re: How will they spend their time now?Reading
God's Word and trying to figure out why door-to-door really is
I hope the mission president in Las Vegas does not require his missionaries to
wear long sleeve shirts in the summertime. On a more serious note, I have often
worried that some missionary looking guys would be arrested in some foreign
country as CIA spies. Imagine the backlash from something like that.
@ Brother Benjamin FranklinI am not sure what you mean by "the Church
puts their emphasis in the wrong places."Since I was a youth in the
1950's and President McKay said, "Every member a missionary," the
leaders of the church have been putting emphasis on member involvement in
finding people for the missionaries to teach. The only reason that missionaries
must resort to knocking on doors is that, we as members (and I include myself in
this) do not provide them with enough people to teach. Put quite simply, they
would rather be doing more productive activities (like teaching lessons), but
too often there are not any 'more productive' activities for them to
be involved in.
What losers. And hint to folks: Don't open your door at 6:20 to anyone!
Certainly most members of the LDS Church would know that missionaries are not
out knocking on doors at 6:20 a.m., but I am fairly certain that 99.999% (a
number not based on any scientific research) of the rest of the population of
the world is cognizant of that bit of knowledge. Yet, when put into the larger
context of door to door solicitation in general, it should seem more than a
little odd to even the most casual observer that representatives of any
organization would be soliciting door to door at that hour.Still, I am
sure that it will put a damper, especially in Las Vegas, on the success of door
to door contacting for everyone who does it. When I served a mission, years ago,
it was the least successful method of introducing people to the church and there
were many more stay at home moms then, I am sure that now the percentage is even
lower now. Yet we spent most of our daylight hours doing that because we never
had enough people to teach from the other more productive sources. How will the
missionaries fill their time now?
When I was on my mission, there were a couple thieves who attempted this as
well. For a few weeks were were told not to do the door to door thing. This was
@scodyshootfight"It would be great to also get more involved in
community service and be out and seen that way."There is already
a 10 service hour requirement for Missionaries. In Dallas, they average more
Here is a few clues:1. They didn't have name tags on (big red
flag)2. They approached the door at 6:30 a.m. (they wake up at that
time)3. They looked down for the camera (my guess is they had the place
staked out)4. I can't think of a missionary that starts off a door
approach that they want to discuss religion, especially at 6:30 a.m. They would
start off with their title, name and then the name of the church.5.
Hopefully there is a law with higher consequences against those who impersonate
missionaries much like impersonating a cop etc.6. It's 6:30
a.m....Really? What missionary would ever think that is an effective time to
try and teach someone without an appointment? It's 6:30 a.m.
MoJules. It's required by law for missionaries, LDS or otherwise, to wear
ID tags? In what states, cities or jurisdictions?
I am saddened for the victims. In my opinion if the LDS Church just
had missionaries stop going door-to-door, then this type of stuff would never
happen. Why not just have them on Facebook, at the temple, in the
family history centers, on Temple Square, and other safe places where people
will know they are legitimate? This is what happens when the Church
puts their emphasis in the wrong places. I hope they reconsider their
proselytizing strategies after this incident. When is enough going to be
If I were these two, I would not be standing outside during a thunder storm ...
Six twenty in the morning ?
Fact one, missionaries are doing their study and such at that time in the
morning. Fact two, it is required by law to wear ID to identify who
you are. I have never in all my years around missionaries seen them without
their name tag.Sadly, the shoe can be on the other foot, sometimes
missionaries can be invited in and treated poorly. Both sides of the door need
to be cautious.
This will have a negative impact on the church's door to door efforts. And
in today's world, I don't blame people for not trusting door to door
strangers, even if they're missionaries. At our house we have a peep hole
and will not even answer if it is someone we're unfamiliar with.How cool it was to see that the church is already changing their approach.
We're moving away from door to door and going more online. It would be
great to also get more involved in community service and be out and seen that
way. That was the best way to build relationships and find interested people on
A couple of twisted minds. What happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas.
Gee, that would have been news...back in June.
Looks like it's getting harder and harder to live on MSF (Missionary
Support Funds)...I hope they catch these imposters quickly.
Seriously? What people won't do for their 15 minutes of fame! Who thinks
missionaries would knock on your door at 6:20 am? I'm sure this is no
laughing matter but it struck me as funny.