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Published: Monday, Aug. 19 2013 1:20 p.m. MDT

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kosimov
Riverdale, UT

BYU Track Star: I get your point, but I wonder if you aren't taking it a bit too far. Not in your objection to the content of sources you mention, but in the idea that we can sequester our families and try to prevent them from exposure to anything but the most wholesome shows possible, even excluding parts of the Bible from them. Even though Song of Solomon and the others you mention do have some parts which could be seen as soft porn, the context is much different, and I don't feel kids will get the same messages, the same images in their minds, as they do with current soft and hard porn. Context is important. The stuff we have now is made to convince us that things which we know are wrong, are OK because society finds ways to get away with them, and they are able to put them in a context which makes them look like popular, cool people accept them. The Bible and such uses some material which could marginally be said to be of the same ilk, but in a different context which is obvious, even to kids.

joseywales
Park City, UT

What about everyone who dislikes the commercial, and ABC for airing it, just call up all the companies who were running ads about the same time and threaten a boycott? Once the word gets out to these companies, they will tell ABC that they can't advertise when an inappropriate trailer is also airing, and ABC will no longer run the trailer. Going to a further extreme, threaten to boycott any advertiser that runs an ad during the episode itself, if there are enough willing to sign, no ads will run, thus no money to keep it on tv.

Sure, people will say, if you don't like it, don't watch it. And that to a certain extent is true, however, I like what has been said already, that if you just walk away, evil wins. Sometimes good has to stand up and fight!

Shazandra
Bakersfield, CA

Really, Lightbulb? Read the two paragraphs following.

See the movie. Now that I know LBJ's body functions as a human one, and that certain politicians are vulgar in private discourse, that truly shed necessary light on racism and Watergate for everyone over 13.

And wow for all those cartoon writers. Had I not got to hear a talking donkey and an ogre in "Shreck" have explicit bodily noises, it wouldn't have been "real" for me or the tiny tots watching.

Full disclosure does not need full exposure of your every 24-hour bodily functions. Society deems what is age-appropriate. Kudos to Rebeca Seitz for taking the time to do the work I should be helping her do. I sat by while Hollywood slowly lowered its rating standards. Then one day I stopped letting my God-given precious children be exposed to every filthy politician or screen character's vices.

Wake up, put in a lightbulb, smell the java, or Postum. Hollywood does not care about your family's morality or standards. They are laser-fixed on the profits.

Al_Tenuta
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

"And I sent my child out of the room", said Mrs. Seitz, "and I rewound the program to see if I saw what I thought I saw. I rewound it again and again and again, and it was still the same. Then I took some pictures of what I saw and before I knew it, it was 2 in the afternoon."

kosimov
Riverdale, UT

Brother Benjamin Franklin:

I agree that we cannot escape porn at all levels and incarnations. However, I summarily disagree with the philosophy of "well, it's everywhere, so, might as well just watch it, or watch nothing".

One big problem with porn, soft or hard, is that the human mind, especially the MALE human mind, will keep a copy of everything we observe, including porn. That copy will be automatically recalled to mind whenever we wish it to, or even if we don't specifically recall it. We cannot stop that; it is the way we function.

The only way to limit the saved copies of porn is to avoid it whenever possible. The idea that we should just toss out the TV and all other devices is similar to saying we should have our eyes removed to make certain we block EVERY porn observation. It is clear that removing eyes also removes good observations; we can't do that. Same with TV. We want the good stuff on TV, so we must work hard to get the bad stuff removed from casual exposure. Those who want porn can go find it easily, so freedom of expression is not violated.

Breadth and Depth
Salt Lake City, UT

A few comments here correctly place this ad which is the subject of this report in perspective with relation to common practice, with some comments even mentioning a few specific examples. But I have yet to read any comparison of "soft porn" to the blatantly "obscene" ads for ED pharmaceuticals aired at any time, not to mention prime time. You're right, the ED ads do not show photos, but that is not necessary according to case law. While the 7 banned words are often ridiculed yet still enforced, less than subtle uncensored explicit references to the same accomplish the same objective, to paint a mental picture. I would think that a rational list of priorities would place banning ED ads higher on the list as being universally "obscene" rather than targeting relatively low priority subjective "soft porn." I should not need to ask, "How many parents have had a teenaged daughter ask what ED is while viewing prime time TV as a family?" and "How many parents have had teenaged sons be totally embarrassed by ED ads?" I am relatively open-minded, but I am disgusted with these ED ads.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:mark

I confess - I was at a software conference in Denver and I happened to just switch on the TV. Brain Williams was on and I decided to force myself to listen ...for about 30 minutes or so ...to his leftist rant..I mean newscast. Yes Brian true to form went on with his "Obama worship" for the better part of the newscast along with a heavy dose of conservative bashing. This was during the IRS scandal and it was all I could do to listen to the man without throwing up. In past years there were always the normal liberal leaning types on NBC and the other two networks but this far surpassed liberal leaning and was outright worship! Sickening and disgusting. Now Brian Williams is supposed to be a news reporter ...not a commentator but the entire news cast was nothing but commentary. I contrast this to Shepard Smith on Fox. Shepard is balanced and one only need listen for one newscast to understand the difference. So .... this one 30 minute session was all I could stomach of "leftist" news ...I confess. I guess I just wasn't raised a socialist.

The Caravan Moves On
Enid, OK

America CANNOT be beat from the outside in.

We can, and will, only lose our country from the inside out.....not through the military conquering power of foreign nations, but ONLY through our OWN apathy and disobedience to God's laws.

Look around you, liberals. All you have to do is open your eyes and see what's really there all around us....

Contribute A Verse
Livermore, CA

I'm glad that this mother is handling the situation in the way that she thinks is best. I think it's up to each of us to decide how we're going to handle situations that we don't approve of, from media in our homes to political agendas. I think this raises a good point of discussion: Why or why not call the media company, instead of getting rid of the TV?

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"Brain Williams was on and I decided to force myself to listen ...for about 30 minutes or so "

"this one 30 minute session was all I could stomach of "leftist" news ...I confess."

Wow. Fascinating "patriot". 30 minutes. That explains a lot.

You know, I'll criticize FOX news, and Limbaugh, etc. but at least I listen to them, and have for years. And I listen regularly. So at least I know what I'm talking about when I criticize.

But not you. You make an assumption based on one 30 minute viewing of one show about an entire wide and varied media. That explains a lot. And the thing is, I don't think you are probably unique in this. I imagine it is what most conservatives do that criticize "leftist" news.

Eh. . . I like to know what I'm talking about. You? Well, you keep watching only FOX.

melz
Sandy, UT

I am sick of people saying "get used to it. or nothing we can do" we DO NOT have to GET USED TO IT. For those of us that DON'T want this kind of "supply"...lets minimize the demand. For starters...UNPLUG...I simply choose to spend my time doing other things than turning on the TV. Just watch movies...read...clean your house....pick up a hobby or play a game with them. Most kids want our attention anyway...not the TV. So to me its simple...lets just turn it off for a while out of pure curiosity to see what happens:) Wouldn't it be great if we just all decided to unplug for 1 full month...no commercial adds thrown in our face...no depressing news to watch....no unrealistic shows making us feel less important in life. Lets see what WE can do and be without it. What could we all accomplish with that precious time in our hands. I think it would be cool for once to be in control...not a "network".. wouldn't you?

Gemimi
Bakersfield, CA

I hear ya, Patriot. I just leave the channel on FOX now.

However, they do love their ED commercials, too...

Civil
Salt Lake City, UT

"'Well, if you do that, what will our children have in 10 years?' " Seitz said during an interview with Beck."

Books? You know, the stuff Franklin, Washington, Lincoln, etc., were raised on?

Lightening Lad
Austin , TX

Is the Deseret Morning News now the moral bully puppet for its owners? Every day porn coverage, while I appreciate having the opportunity to read local news from out of the area, I find the constant coverage of porn discusting. Those who want the stuff will find it, and it appears Utahns love the stuff, to those who want nothing to do with it, ENOUGH ALREADY! No one does not know that the LDS Church is opposed to such trash and that includes, certainly, the biggest users. As Mark Twain stated, the more you oppose something and rail against it, the more desirable it becomes. This is merely preaching to the choir.

gatsby
Murray, utah

I absolutley support you 100%!!! Like many others that you mentioned, we do not have cable and we watch very little TV. We also see very few movies, in part because after very carefully selecting a movie, we are then subjected to violent trailers. I do not look to Hollywood for anything--I don't give them my time, my interest, or my money.

But good for you--you are right! WE need to start standing up to this filth and garbage that is being passed off as "entertainment"

Thank you for putting so much of yourself on the line over this issue.

Aggie238
Logan, UT

Two thoughts that popped into my head when I read this article:

1) Lady, if you're that surprised about what you see on commercials and on TV, perhaps you shouldn't have TV, as you clearly have not been paying attention for the past 10+ years. I applaud your efforts to fight it despite slim odds, but at the same time, the opportune moment has long since come and passed. If you want control over what comes into your home, switch to something on-demand, like Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon. If you don't like it, don't pay for it, because nothing speaks louder than the almighty dollar.

2) I wonder how many LDS women get bent out of shape over this, but screamed with delight at the images of a shirtless, 17-year-old Jacob Black on the silver-screen rendition of the soft-porn series known as Twilight.

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