And the best tight end in the state?Jake MurphyJust
another example of traditional byu families that have made the permanent upgrade
to red. Chase Hansen, Harrison Handley, Zach LindsayMust be tough
for byu fans to know their time for football dominance is well over and done.
And Utah State will make a tough case for #2 in the state in the years to come.
Chris BI truly believe the tide has turned and BYU will rise again and
start their own streak against TUN!!! Looking forward to Sept.21!!! Good luck to
Utah in their quest for a winning season in the PAC12!!! Go
Cougs!!!Go Utes!!!Go Aggies!!!BYU 35Utah 10
@ChrisBHave to call you out on this one - that's just too funny. USU,
Ok, Chris here's a quiz:Based on the following stats who is the
best?30 catches, 308 yards, 5 TDs or33 catches, 349 yards, 4
TDsAnd which one is which?Not a huge difference, and
most reasonable fans would conclude they aren't even distinguishable from
each other. So how do you conclude that Murphy is the best? Because Whit takes
him to the PAC 10.2 media day? Just because the utes finally started throwing
the ball to the tight end after not using the position as a receiver for YEARS
doesn't qualify Murphy as the best in the state. Statistically, as seen
above, they were both pretty pedestrian and indistinguishable from each other,
although Friel had more TDs and since scoring more points than your opponent is
the object of the game, one could argue that he's the best. Heck, Daniel
Coats had comparable stats as a freshman at BYU as Murphy had last year.
basman,Here's a quiz.Is it more difficult to
accumulate stats against WAC opponents or Pac 12 opponents?
Chris B,Can't answer that question since the Utes have not racked up
many stats worth counting or worthwhile. What really matters is the W's
and L's. Utah is still in the basement in that category.
I'm glad Andrew George is the positions coach for these guys. He can teach
them the moves necessary to avoid Ute tacklers and score winning TDs.
Chris BThe answer is... WAC because utah beat more pac teams than
wac last year, sorry to burst your bubble.
Chris B - Tough to tell since U only had 3 non conference games last year. If
you throw out the D2 school then Jake averaged 1 reception and 4 yards per game
with no TDs. Against the mighty Pac he averaged 2.8 receptions and 29 yards per
game. Obviously it is more difficult to accumulate stats against PAC 12 than
" Kaneakua Friel (6-5, 261) and Devin Mahina (6-6, 247) "Will be fun watching anyone in the pac10.plusCU try to defend the above.
Anyone know the status of Austin Holt? I noticed he wasn't even mentioned
in the article.
@ Chris B:Just want to remind you of your promise not to post on
anymore BYU sports articles for a year after the Utes lose to BYU on September
21st. Have your fun with silly comments for a few more weeks, but after that,
please be a man of your word. After the game, you will realize it doesn't
matter who has the best tight end in the state... only who has the best team.
And that fact will become painfully obvious to some select Ute trolls...
yourself included. And by the way, the answer to your quiz is
"it doesn't matter." A loss is a loss, whether it's to a WAC
or a PAC team. And since the U has been accumulating more losses than wins
during this past year (the Utes being only division 1 college in the state who
currently qualifies), it's a subject you are probably getting pretty good
Chris B.So it's the overpowering PAC 10.2 schedule that renders
Murphy's stats down to the lowly level of Kriel? Or is it Kriel playing
against patsies that elevates his stats to that all-world Murphy level?Bronco Mendenhall has more wins (12) versus current PAC 10.2 schools than than
Kyle Whittingham does in his two years in the conference (11).Overall, Bronco Mendenhall is 12-10 against current PAC 10.2 schools. Kyle
Whittingham is 11-14. And Bronco didn't have the luxury of playing
Colorado twice!Come on Chris, it's football - blocking,
throwing and catching. Murphy's stats do not convince anyone he's the
best tight end in the state other than ute fans no matter who he's playing.
So if you really want to play that game, throw out the nearly 20% of
Murphy's season receptions that came against Northern Colorado.
Very excited to watch the "inside receivers" this year. Hoffman's
stats could be down this year, not because he's less effective, but because
of increase production by his other bookend and the inside receivers.
Answer Chris's question...You're dancing around it...As always...lol.
@Spokane UteI believe Austin Holt has moved to defensive end.
@Spokane UteHe's playing D End now
U haven't played a PAC schedule yet. U've played a bottom half of the
PAC schedule your first two years.After the season, though,
let's get together and compare tight ends. And records. And bowl
games.And head to head, because this is the year.Been a
lot of Ute comments about bad Karma on the Max Hall article, then a lot of
cheezy laughs at the expense of an injured player on the kicking article. So
I'll go out on a limb and predict...another last play of the
game victory, since they mostly turn out that way. In favor of BYU, since
we're due. And on the back of a place kick, since if anyone should know
about bad Karma, it's Utah.
@ ekute:Nobody is dancing around anything. It just so happens that
Chris's question has nothing whatsoever to do with this article (quite
typical of his and other Ute troll comments) and is basically irrelevant to
anything. Really... what difference do stats degree of difficulty make in almost
any loss... regardless of conference affiliation? BYU outplayed and
had better offensive yardage stats than Utah did in their game last year, but
still lost. So really... what difference do the game stats degree of difficulty
in any loss make?? They don't. A loss is a loss, regardless of the stats.
Only a few fatuous commenters could possibly tie in a "lol" to
something so irrelevant. But somehow, you did it... again!And in
case you forgot, Utah had more loss stats than win stats last season.The really hard to answer question you and Chris B should really be concerned
about is: "How are we and our fellow Ute tolls going to handle the
humiliation of the outcome of the big game on September 21st... especially after
all the silly comments and LOL's we keep posting on BYU articles?"
Looking forward to the discipline Anae will bring to an offense. I hope teams
start talking like they did last time he was at the Y, "We know we
can't stop them, we just hope to slow them down."Go
Two questions:1) ChrisB, if your team is so great, and your school
has moved on, why are you so obsessed with commenting on BYU articles?
Especially a relatively boring one about tight ends?2) Why do the
rest of us even care what ChrisB has to say?
Please stop even acknowledging certain BYU haters. They are not worth your
time, or effort. Like a gnat, they keep coming back to annoy you. One of them
is 90% of the time the first to post on BYU articles. If you keep talking to
them, they will keep coming back.We welcome those Ute fans who are
courteous and not Anti-LDS, hence Anti-BYU. Most of the fans of one school or
the other realize that if one school does good, the other one benefits. We can
root for BYU, UofU, and USU, the whole year except on rivalry game.Like the signs at the Zoo state, don't feed the animals.
Hmmmm! I thought this article was about tight ends at BYU. Only small minds get
distracted and continually attack a positive BYU article. If that fits you, go
to your own blogs, PLEASE!! I am very excited about the BYU offense
and can't wait until kickoff against Virginia. I love the Y!Go Cougars!
@YBallThanks for the info, thought the kid was a pretty dang good
TE. I know he was highly rated coming out of HS. I hope to see him on the field,
I grew up with his Dad.
Per Y Grad/Y Dad:After the season, though, let's get together
and compare tight ends. And records. And bowl games.And head to
head, because this is the year.------Let's; we could meet in
Connel.8-)We all need some new material, everyone
continues to beat a dead horse over, and over, and over....
Per Y Grad/Y Dad:"Let's; we could meet in Connell."Maybe get us tickets to a Zags game and I'll make the trip to
Spokane?Hmmm, that's a tough venue. How about we meet in
Pullman the next time the Utes come to town. I might even could round up a red
shirt, but I don't know the words to your fight song...
Out of all the positions BYU has TE is the one that should NOT be overhauled.
BYU. What is wrong with you?
@RedStats for the TE has been very poor since Andrew George graduated.
The Y has had a stable full of 4 star recruits but none has emerged to show
anything like George, Pitta, Harling, or Coats. I hope the position can return
to those years. The Y's offense is always at it's best when they go
to the tight end. They got away from that for the last four years.
SLCWatchSalt Lake City, UTAgreed. Also about creating
mismatches. As our red brethren are wont to remind us, teams like Wisconsin,
Texas and Notre Dame are likely to have superior athletes, so one point of
attack is to isolate mismatches and on-on-one coverage (where superior
athleticism MAY be counterbalanced with foreknowledge of the play and precision
in execution).Add in a fast and hard offensive pace, and the theory
is excellent. Looking forward to the practical exam!
Interesting concept with Andrew George coaching inside receivers as opposed to
traditional tight ends. Will be interesting to see how this translates into
game performance. Btw, Chris is not a troll--he actually engages.
Who will be the most disappointed if he leaves for a year? The DN. His
comments probably double or triple the number of overall comments. He's
simply carrying on the tradition of friendly banter between rivals--it happens
Chris, the Utes will NOT beat USU.Mark it down.