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Published: Saturday, Aug. 17 2013 8:44 a.m. MDT

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JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

I guess any idiot can buy a gun and shoot in an irresponsible manner. These fools should be found, charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.

MapleDon
Springville, UT

This is what the press and left has been waiting for...and here come the radical leftists screaming to take away guns.

Reasonable Person
Layton, UT

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When will we start truly holding people responsible?

The target shooters who started the Dump Fire at Saratoga Springs, which burned off the brush and then allowed several homes to be flooded.
What happened to them?

Probably feted in a parade as "heroes".

theSkeptic
CLEARFIELD, UT

I'm skeptical that is the shooting causing the fire. It would take tracer, steel ammo, or something like that to spark a fire. Even then, it would need some very unique circumstances to cause a fire.
In all the 50+ years of shooting, including 10 in the Marines, I have never seen a fire started with ordinary ammunition.
I know what the news has said about other fires, but I've seen no real evidence except conjecture to prove it was shooting.
Lead bullets do ricochet, but sparking is another thing.

Physics27
Cedar City, UT

As a physicist and a avid shooter I do not see how you could create a fire by regular target shooting. Tracer rounds or exploding targets yes. Anyone who claims that a fire started while they were using regular rounds is likely lying to cover up carelessly starting a fire another way. When I see it I will believe it. Until then i will trust what I have seen and what I understand about physics.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Ever thought pyromaniacs may enjoy target shooting?

JBT
Provo, UT

Interesting thing happens when articles like this get posted, or when a fire starts and police question people shooting in the area. Comments from the pro gun people seem to be similar to "I doubt the bullet, or a ricochet caused the fire", or they claim the media or left wing people are trying to take guns away. I am an avid shooter, and die-hard second amendment supporter, and I dislike the media. But, let's be real, these articles NEVER mention ammo type, and, in almost ALL cases, if people are in the area shooting, they caused it!! whether its using steal ammo, or shooting exploding targets, they caused it! Ask the state investigator, who closed down a huge area west of Utah Lake, what was causing those fires. He'll tell you it was the shooters. If you're going to go shooting, be responsible and be Smart!

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

RE: MpleDn - I saw nothing in the article about taking away guns. However, taking responsibility as gun owners for your actions and expecting the state to apply existing laws should definitely apply. Tax payers should not be expected to foot the bill for fools who start fires, no matter how they start the fire.

MapleDon
Springville, UT

@JBT

Even the investigator who blamed guns for last year's Saratoga Springs fire admitted to conjecture. He wasn't certain, but said there were casings on the ground in that area. THERE ARE CASINGS ALL OVER THAT HILL!

Any restriction on smoking in dry areas? Nope. Any restriction on matches in dry areas? Nope. Just guns.

I've shot many thousands of rounds over my 40+ years and have been with others doing the same. I've gone shooting in locations where other shooters were clogging the area target shooting. And with all that gunfire and dry terrain I've never seen a fire caused by guns.

Last year, the media went nuts about guns and fires. And their efforts were successful in convincing the people in this state that the majority of fires that occurred last year (and this) were caused by guns. That's called propaganda.

Even this one incident is speculation, yet you've got the low information readers concluding that gun people need to be stopped (see comments above).

So, it seems to me that this is issue driven, rather than concern for trees and grass.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Every other year necks go up there shooting and start fires. You would think one day it will sink in, but it never does.

MajMarine
Salt Lake City, UT

20 years in the Marines, and I have never seen a fire started by shooting--unless they were tracer rounds. With as much lead as we put downrange in some firefights, there would have been fires started left and right if lead bullets were the cause. In fact, next time you go camping, try and start your fire by shooting at your pile of wood and kindling. No need to report back on how it went, because I already know the answer.

But--if you are shooting lately, in the extremely dry conditions we have in the state, and you are using 'exploding' targets, tracer rounds (which I highly doubt), etc, then you should be arrested for stupidity. And yes, if you were the cause of a fire and the subsequent damage, then you should also be made to pay for it.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

"This year, (2012) the Bureau of Land Management said 11 of 31 wildfires it has battled in Idaho have been sparked by shooting activities.
In New Mexico, state forestry officials said a landowner was target shooting when one of his bullets hit a rock and sparked a small blaze. "This is a sign that we are very dry," said state forestry spokesman Dan Ware. "We're starting to see very unique ways of fire starting."
Officials at Arizona's Tonto National Forest had seven wildfires caused by firearms in 2010, 10 in 2011 and at least four so far this year. The potential for fire is so great that shooting for several years has been prohibited on BLM property in the Phoenix area."
(Foxnews)

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

To those who blindly refuse to believe that shooting can start a fire, I give you the Herriman Black Ridge fire which was started by small arms training at Camp Williams - they admitted it.

I swear - necks will believe (or disbelieve) whatever they have to in order to keep their precious guns.

Physics27
Cedar City, UT

This "neck" with a masters degree is not upset a out it being blamed on guns. I'm upset that it is considered by many, that normal target shooting starts fires. When I see a study done that shows that fires can be started with lead bullets, then I will believe it. All that I have heard so far are claims. Peaple are too quick to accept claims as fact.

not here
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO

Re; BSR SD Cal.

Let's see: Yes you are right the fire your talking about was started by gun fire. But you like all the other's, forgot to state it was all cause because they were using tracer rounds. If your going to tell a story, please try to keep the facts straight.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

Not here.

I'm clapping right now. Thanks for being a stand up person.

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