Brad Rock: Utes' Eccles Football Center is fit for a king ... or blue chip recruit


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  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 19, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    U 90

    "Says the BYU fan who's facilities are built with tithing money."

    As usual, a complete distortion of the truth.

    The only BYU athletic facilities built with tithing money are facilities that are also used by non-athletes. BYU's football training facility, unlike Utah's football training facility, was built ENTIRELY with funds from donors and revenue generated by BYU's athletic programs.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 17, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    I guess it's unrealistic to think that fans can remain classy, respectful, and civil towards each other. I'm not sure what the big fuss is all about. I think it's wonderful that schools are able to get the money to upgrade their facilities and all. It's great for the kids, for the school, and the community as a whole. However, all the kingly upgrades means nothing if your team don't win, be that at Utah, BYU, or anywhere else. As one famous coach said, "Winning isn't everything. It's the ONLY thing."

    Go Cougars! Go Utes too, when you're not playing us!

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 17, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    @ Bluto "And don't forget that BYU's facilities are paid for. Utah's are not. (Hello Taxpayers?)"

    Says the BYU fan who's facilities are built with tithing money.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:34 p.m.

    the u can go ahead and take all the money you can get, along with your 3 to 5 wins a season. No need for stadium expansion...you'll see a lot of empty seats in the stands. Winning solves a lot of problems, and I just don't see the utes getting very many.

  • DontMUSSwUtah SLC, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 5:48 p.m.


    Get out of the 80's for 2 seconds, and you will realize that words like "legacy" and "tradition" are obsolete for BYU. Please, spare us all the spew of useless statistics you were about to hastily type to "back up" your point. I've seen them already on here a thousand times. The fact of the matter is that your 1984 national championship is almost 30 years old, and the days of your team being the "premier" program in the state are almost as far gone.
    Its comical that you find it so offensive that someone put a heisman overlay on some promotion of the new facility. You were so quick to shoot down something that nobody on here knew about. And you say you're not jealous? lolz.

  • steeleute Sandy, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 5:31 p.m.

    Any BYU fan commenting on this article seriously needs to get a life

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    For all those who think that college sports is one way to help provide funds for a college or university, this facility should help put that thought on the scrap heap. This isn't unique to the U, which makes it all the more terrible.

    $32 MILLION!

    How much of the $millions that the athletic department brings in actually goes to helping a university fulfill its primary mission? Very, very little, if any.

    So, instead of a way to enhance the educational experience of post high school students, the facility-like many more around the country-simply adds another marketing tool to get more and more focus on sports.

    Need more classroom buildings, more science equipment, more research capability, no chance. Want to add more jock straps and video rooms? You got it!

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    I'm a big BYU fan, but I really like what the Utes have done up there.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    To my Ute brethren...

    BYU fans aren't jealous.
    We've already been there and done that, regarding top notch facilities.
    Utah's facilities cannot even compare to BYU's, even now.

    And don't forget that BYU's facilities are paid for.
    Utah's are not. (Hello Taxpayers?)

    What we are actually mildly amused with, is the over the top hyperbole and spin coming out of the U's PR machine and their complicit media.

    One station even had the gall to show a Heisman Trophy overlay, when promoting his story on the U's new facility.

    A Heisman Trophy?
    At the U?

    Not so fast Red Rocks....
    National Award Winners (21) and College Hall of Famers (7) are found at BYU, not Utah.

    I invite all Ute fans to go on the other Pac teams websites and compare.
    Even when Utah's new money comes in, they will still be last in athletic budgets in the Pac.
    It's not going to make a dent in Utah's fortunes.

    Legacy and Tradition is what counts.
    BYU has it...Utah does not.

  • byufanman west valley city, utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    Nice facilities. That's about it though.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    With this new facility we will out recruit BYU, all other schools in the PAC12 and have the National Championship trophy within 2 years!!!

    Mark my words!

    GO UTES!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    @Just the FAX: "Maybe U haven't been in the PAC long enough to realize this, but Washington and Washington State are two different universities."


    Apparently you don't know diddly:

    "The University of Washington's Husky Stadium will have a new look for the 2013 football season...$250 million renovation of the stadium and construction of a new football operations center. New luxury, patio and club suites will be added to the 91-year-old stadium."

    So my point stands, every PAC-12 team is upgrading including Washington which has ONE more win then Utah.

    As far as the study, it was a random sample of 179 players. Unless you conducted a similar study your opinion is irrelevant.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    Palo Alto, CA

    U 90

    Unfortunately for U, going bowl-less is the wave of the future for Utah.

    The Utes have been bowl-less 50% since joining the PAC.

    The Cougars have been to bowls 100% since going Independent.


    Wow! Is that what BYU fans define as research? You should publish your findings.

    FYI... 8 of 11 is a strong trend, 1 of 2 is not.

  • 22hornet Clinton, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 12:49 p.m.

    Still laughing at all the haters...it was a much needed facility. Thanks for being such great byu fans! Very typical responses from the byu crowd. That's too bad. I expected you to be somewhat happy. I guess you're still bitter because you haven't busted into a BCS bowl yet. Remember, Oregon and USC (and probably most of the PAC12) have better facilities because they have HUGE sponsors. Just ask Oregon where they would be without NIKE funding just about all their needs; including new football uniforms and helmets...for EVERY game! They never wear the same thing twice. Can you come up with something better byu fans? You're still proud of your 1984 national champion team; playing a Michigan team that was 5-4 in the regular season and ended up with a 6-6 season. I feel sorry for you.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 12:32 p.m.


    Maybe U haven't been in the PAC long enough to realize this, but Washington and Washington State are two different universities.


    "Forbes had a great article last year "The Surprising Factors Driving College Football Recruits". For the most part academics was the #1 factor..."

    Forbes obviously didn't talk to recruits in the SEC.

    The truth is, EVERY recruit is different. Staying close to home may be important to one recruit, while getting far away from home may be more important to another. Some recruits may rule out BYU because of its strict rules of conduct, while other recruits may choose BYU specifically because of BYU's strict standards. The reasons for a recruit choosing a particular school are as varied as the recruits themselves.

    Bottom line: If a recruit is choosing between BYU and Utah, and both schools have similar facilities, facilities will be a wash, and other factors will be used in making the choice.

    On the other hand, if facilities are the primary decision point and Utah is competing against Oregon or USC, well, that's why USC's roster is filled with blue-chippers, and Utah's never will be.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 16, 2013 12:18 p.m.


    "Site your source..."

    What exactly does that mean?

    You can beat your chests all you want to about all of the revenue Utah is getting from the PAC, but your chest beating rings hollow as long as Utah continues to use student fees to help pay for Utah athletics.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 16, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "Um, it's been two years Dude, get a clue."

    And Utah's current winning streak versus BYU has only been three.

    But, the trend for Utah's continued struggles (and hence, missed bowl games) appears to be MUCH more likely than the trend for Utah continuing to get all of the turnover breaks in winning nail-biters versus BYU.

    Get a clue yourself.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 12:02 p.m.


    For the most part, Blue Chip recruits want to attend a university where they can don shorts and flip flops in the winter and check out adoring coeds wearing the same.


    Forbes had a great article last year "The Surprising Factors Driving College Football Recruits". For the most part academics was the #1 factor and "flip-flop weather" didn't make the ranking.

    "The quality of facilities finished fourth and was just fractions of a point behind academic reputation, parents/guardian perception about the school and relationships with assistant coaches." -- Rivals

  • IA Cougar West Des Moines, IA
    Aug. 16, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    All the BYU v Utah banter is embarrassing. Come on folks. As a big BYU fan, I love our facilities. They are cool. This is a great looking building and will help Utah do well. Congrats to the Utes. May we both have great seasons!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 16, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    Great new digs!

    Love all the haters and the sour grapes. Too funny!! Utah progress sure does get under some peoples skin!!

    Go Utes! Onward and Upward!!

  • RealBlue Holladay, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    As a coug fan I am not jealous the utes new facility, I am simply shocked that it isn't nicer. As you can see it is pretty plain. It isn't that over the top like most utes fans predicted. I wasn't the person saying that this building is is going to save the program, that is the ute fan base and the ute media. I personally don't think it's something that is going to set themselves apart from other pac teams. It's new and nicer than what they had but it's not this game changing building. Oregon now they have a game changer, they were innovative. They did it right, their building will be impressive for the next 20 years. utes facility will be out-of-date in 5, then what will they have. Just another boring building.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:47 a.m.

    West Jordan, UT

    This is what you fixate on when you dont have actual wins. Seriously, who freaking cares?


    Apparently the recruits considering every other PAC-12 team is doing the same. Including teams like Washington .

    Are you also posting on Washington articles? Considering that:

    Utah is 13-12
    Washington State is 14-12

  • UtahBy44 Beaver, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    @ Scotty

    Site your source before you spew ignorance. This year Utah will be at 75% of the PAC 12 revenue approximately 15-16M.

    This is not Tax payers money nor is it tithing money.

    "Student Fees", what a joke! you guys need to be a little more creative than that.

    Rock, good article.

  • scott Alpine, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Bleed Crimson

    As UoU 1991 said:

    "As long as student fees are being collected for use by Utah's athletic department, nobody can truthfully say that students aren't being forced to pay for athletic facilities like this."

    The bonds being used to partially pay for this facility, will be repaid in part from funds received by the athletic department through student fees.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:28 a.m.


    Um, it's been two years Dude, get a clue.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    So we spend millions of dollars on something that really boils down to one thing...getting kids to sign on the line. Truth is, more than 95% of college football and basketball players ever make it to the next level. These kids come in and seem to think this is the way the real life is, but when they're gone they get a reality check. Life is glamorous for only a few. (I guess the coaches will enjoy the lounge the most)

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:19 a.m.

    U 90

    Unfortunately for U, going bowl-less is the wave of the future for Utah.

    The Utes have been bowl-less 50% since joining the PAC.

    The Cougars have been to bowls 100% since going Independent.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    C'mon BYU fans. This is a beautiful facility and exudes the pride and tradition of ute football. If I were a recruit I would be impressed. This isn't about BYUs facilities which are also top notch. Y'all sound whiney and jealous at this when there's no reason to be...BYU has beautiful facilities as well, so there's no reason to express the kind of sour grapes virulence that some of you are exhibiting. Congrats to Utah for a beautiful complex.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:15 a.m.


    Those three 5-6 years under Crowton still saw LES sold out and fans came to the games. With Oregon and Stanford on the docket for the next couple of years Utah looks to be heading into the same sort of college sports wasteland the Cougars endured. The hope is that all the real young talent Utah has been accumulating can overcome and get the Utes back to a bowl in 2015.

    I really like the facility however I'd appreciate changing that "nice little stadium" moniker one of the opposing PAC coaches made referring to Utah even more. RES even with the Utes struggling on the field should still be able to pack the house with fans from other Universities. On top of that SLC will bid for another Winter Olympics and having a stadium that seats 60k would be more appealing. I guess LES could host the next one.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    Wow! Look at all these bitter Y fans on this comment board! There comments spew nothing but envy and jealousy for the University of Utah. Some are making absurd comments like the building is being funded by tax payer subsidies or student fees. Cite your sources before you make such ridiculous claims. I'm happy for the University of Utah to upgrade their football facility (much needed). This will help Utah with recruiting and put us on par with other Pac-12 schools. The next piece of the puzzle is to win on the field. Last year was a let down but I'm optimistic for this year. Less than 2 weeks to go! Go Utes!

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    IF BYU did all this a decade ago, I'm proud of the fact that the Utes have accomplished more with less at least when measured by head to head competition, recruiting and placing players in the NFL. I'm excited to see how much further we will go as our facilities continue to catch up to and surpass what BYU has done.

  • WildCougar Holladay, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    These facilities aren't that over the top. You would think they would have pushed the bar a little farther. Have you seen Oregons facilities they trump the utes NEW building. I wasn't to impressed by the boring already out-of-date thing that the utes just built. I don't think it will help much. It fits the utes boring and complacent. By the way BYU's facility is much better and that is like 10 years older.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 16, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Interesting what will bring all the haters to a Utah board... a building.

    Over the last 10 years Utah has gone bowl-less once. BYU has gone bowl-less 3 times.

  • Down under Eugene, OR
    Aug. 16, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    Superior to BYU. NOT. Maybe up to par and equal to but not SUPERIOR. It's a good thing that they used the space where a trophy case would go for something more useful, like a crying room.

  • Ironman SANTA CLARA, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    For the most part, Blue Chip recruits want to attend a university where they can don shorts and flip flops in the winter and check out adoring coeds wearing the same. The building is beautiful (except for the very tacky red "U" hanging from the ceiling), but it does not prevent the cold, snowy weather that chases away the top talent.

  • JD Tractor Iowa City, IA
    Aug. 16, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    Looks like the copied a lot from what BYU did, glad big brother could show the way.

    If ute fans think they are the "jones" (LOL), they haven't been to USC or Oregon.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    Fashion Police

    As long as student fees are being collected for use by Utah's athletic department, nobody can truthfully say that students aren't being forced to pay for athletic facilities like this. As anybody who's studied accounting knows, it's easy to manipulate the buckets of money to make it appear that particular funds are being used for a particular purpose, but the reality is, it's all one big pot of money that's being distributed however the U sees fit.

  • Fashion Police Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 16, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    I wonder how students who couldn't care less about athletics feel about being forced to pay, through student fees, for football players to live in the lap of luxury while they're living on ramen noodles.

    Just another example of the out-of-control frivolous spending by major college football programs.

  • byufootballrocks Herndon, VA
    Aug. 16, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    The facility is another example, another tangible proof of just how out-of-whack the "priority" of college football has become. Because it is close to home in Utah it brings a more startling realization of something that is already standard among many so-called "elite" programs around the US.

    It's also sad that the number of NFL players from the U is being hyped. The truth is that well over ninety per cent of all college athletes from the top conferences never play in the NFL. I love the way Lou Holtz ran his Notre Dame program. He really played down the NFL promise because it puts the wrong focus on college football players.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 7:34 a.m.

    Steven S Jarvis

    "Now how about Rice-Eccles? Utes need more seats!!"

    Not happening for a long time.

    Next major project already announced by Hill is a basketball practice facility in 2015.

    RES expansion won't be until after that, if ever.

    If the Utes tank for the next three years, like they tanked last year, the won't be any need for expansion. RES will look just like the HC, a vast sea of empty red chairs.

    That's why Hill is moving so slowly on expansion with nothing but a few drawings of proposed expansion plans so far.

    This new facility is very nice; great food and couches for the Utes to watch bowl week from.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 6:38 a.m.

    Congratulations to the University of Utah, a great academic institution, on their new football practice facility. It is interesting to read the comments above. Seems to me this new practice facility will be a phenomenal place to sit and watch the team down south compete in bowl games.

  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    Aug. 16, 2013 4:21 a.m.

    Brad Rock is on the right track comparing the facility to a luxury hotel. However, he has missed one critical point. The UU athletic department is receiving millions of dollars per year in taxpayer subsidies. The vast majority of college football fans in the state are fans of non-BCS programs: BYU, Utah State, Weber, SUU. Why should taxpayers be subsidizing gold plated toilet seats for BCS conference teams when the BCS conferences are trying to destroy nonBCS football?

    I would like to see Brad Rock or any other local journalist ask just once why nonBCS taxpayers should subsidize BCS athletics. Not just in Utah, but in any state. Subsidizing BCS athletic departments is a waste of education dollars. We should be recruiting and retaining better schoolteachers, not paying for "athlete only" monstrosities that will be expensive to build and maintain.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 15, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    "Truth is, the Utes aren't swimming in money, as are Oregon and USC. The football center gives them a nice jump, but in the wealthy Pac-12, simply treading water is expensive. Ten of the 12 teams are either building or have recently completed facilities similar to the EFC."

    At least the Utes will have a nice place to crash during bowl week.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 11:06 p.m.

    If it's a game of keeping up with the Joneses, guess what? The U is not the Joneses. They aren't even the Nortons, the Bunkers or Fred and Ethel Mertz. The rest of the PAC 11 looks at the U as the Clampetts...without money.

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 15, 2013 10:42 p.m.

    Awesome. All haters' comments aside, this will help with recruiting and team unity. 5 years from now BYU fans will be pointing out how their school has more parking spaces with straighter lines. It's all becoming comical, from this end at least.

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 10:34 p.m.

    This is what you fixate on when you dont have actual wins. Seriously, who freaking cares? Get it done on the field and then I will be impressed. I can't think of anything more silly than "we won the recruiting war". Football is a game ultimately decided on the field. Nobody ever got a trophy for best recruiting class or best football building.

    Utah fans are getting to be as bad as BYU fans at substituting fluff for actual wins.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 10:26 p.m.

    Beautiful facility. As I've said I have a friend that works at the U who sent me pics but the video makes it even more impressive. Congrats utes. I don't know about the booster saying "you are the Jonses". Someone needs to give him a wake up call and let him look at the facilities just built or being built around the PAC 12. This is just sick money being thrown around especially when we won't even give our student athletes a stipend. Time to start paying our athletes...I mean CFB already looks like the NFL now, might as well go all in.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 15, 2013 10:21 p.m.

    "Want to kick back and watch a game on TV? There are more HD screens than NORAD and the Pentagon combined"

    Those TVs will come in handy in December during the bowl season.

    Aug. 15, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    To the BYU fans commenting above:

    Sour grapes.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 9:12 p.m.


    Did you know Mr. Bluto that BYU is 3-7 against Utah in the decade since the SAB opened...

    How much farther will BYU fall behind now that Utah's has superior training facilities?

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    I love my Pac 12 membership!

    You think recruits care about state of the art facilities?

    Just as Oregon!

    Just another reason Utah has won the recruiting war between Utah, byu, and usu the last several years.

    And will continue to do so, with ease.

    Both head to head AND average stars its been Utah, Utah, Utah!

  • Cougar on The Hill Midvale, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 8:40 p.m.

    This will be a cool place to hang out during the holidays when the Utes find themselves bowl-less again..

  • steeleute Sandy, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 8:05 p.m.


    btw..BYU is behind Utah in recruiting and always will be so your "decade" of better facilities hasn't done much on getting better talent to come play for you

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 7:46 p.m.

    Utah will continue to be last in athletic budgets, in the Pac.
    And they are going even deeper into debt by bonding.

    And, as noted, all the other schools in the Pac are also spending big bucks on upgrades.
    After all is said and done, Utah will still be looking up at more established conference programs.

    All of this is moot anyway, once Utah becomes embedded as their Perpetual Conference Doormat.
    They're off to a good start.

    btw...Utah is more than a decade behind BYU on facilities...even still.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 7:45 p.m.

    Nice facility. Now how about Rice-Eccles? Utes need more seats!!