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Published: Thursday, Aug. 15 2013 5:53 p.m. MDT

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md
Cache, UT

It's their right to have their law. Deal with it. Here come the gay protests before the Olympic games.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@md

And this athlete had the right to his opinions and to express them, deal with it.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

I applaud Russia for standing up for what is right.

They have made it clear if someone has chosen a particular preference that in and of itself will not be prosecuted.

No one needs to shove their flamboyant lifestyle choices in others faces and encourage others to behave as they do.

Only that is against the law.

It seems like a good compromise on Russia's part.

They are not discriminating against how anyone is.

Keep up the good work Russia!

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

It would be nice if the conservative opinions of other athletes were so tolerated.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ Chris B: You can repeat your misunderstanding of the Russian law all you want if it makes you sleep better. But your denial does not change the reality of what the law says and what its effect is.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@md --

"It's their right to have their law. Deal with it."

According to your logic, it was Hitler's right to have his laws oppressing Jews. (Hitler also persecuted homosexuals, btw.)

Should everyone have stayed out of that one too?

"They have made it clear if someone has chosen a particular preference that in and of itself will not be prosecuted."

Ha.

That kid who was violated and murdered simply told his friends that he was gay. He didn't proselytize.

That Duma official -- a member of the government, remember -- you remember what he said. Even though his comments to police have been posted in comments twice already, the moderator isn't allowing me to post the same comment today. But you remember what he said. Do you really think that wasn't persecution?

Would you have supported Hitler's anti-Jew laws, Chris?

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Contragion,

No, Hitler's laws called for persecution of someone for simply being Jewish.

Russia's laws don't call for prosecution of someone for simply having a preference for people of the same gender.

So poor attempt to connect those too.

Would you like to discuss what the law actually says?

Or just play make believe to try and validate your attempt at playing the victim card?

Again, great job by Russia here.

Accept people for who they are, yet uphold morals.

Great compromise!

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@Christopher B --

"No, Hitler's laws called for persecution of someone for simply being Jewish."

But Chris -- md and others keep telling us that countries have the right to determine their own laws. Why didn't Hitler have that same right?

The first Nuremberg law was ostensibly for the "prevention of the propagation of hereditary illness". That sounds like a laudable goal, right?

What's wrong with preventing illness? And how is "preventing hereditary illness" substantially different from "preventing the corruption of children"?

And do you seriously believe that, when a person can be arrested for simply standing up and saying "I am gay", that person is NOT being persecuted for simply being gay?

RockOn
Spanish Fork, UT

Good for him speaking out.

Just one question.Where are all the incensed people over the dumb Russian anti-gay laws when they struck down freedom of the press; when the Soviet Union murdered and destroyed 100 million lives. Granted, many weren't born in 1990, but many were and remained silent.

Where's the outrage over the way Islam treats women... and gays for that matter.

I'm afraid the "cause de jour" is but another fad political rant from feckless people.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@RockOn --

"Just one question.Where are all the incensed people over the dumb Russian anti-gay laws when they struck down freedom of the press; when the Soviet Union murdered and destroyed 100 million lives. Granted, many weren't born in 1990, but many were and remained silent.

Where's the outrage over the way Islam treats women... and gays for that matter."

Do you seriously believe that people *aren't* speaking out against these human rights violations?? Seriously??

"I'm afraid the "cause de jour" is but another fad political rant from feckless people."

One of the big reasons why it's getting a lot of notice is because this is *new* discrimination -- it's something that's getting worse. The other issues you mentioned are either stable or improving.

paintandestroy
Richmond/Cache, UT

Can the upcoming Olympics please be about sportsmanship and not sexuality? I'm hoping to enjoy it with my family.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

Contrarius, that was one of the best straw man arguments I've ever seen. You also achieved Godwin's Law. That makes your post one of the greatest ever on this site - my congratulations to you.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@Brave --

Godwin's Law was fulfilled in this topic long before my post (in other threads and on other sites). Russia's current activities are such an obvious parallel that it would be unthinkable to NOT mention the Nazis.

"my congratulations to you."

Thenq, thenqverymuch.

Free Agency
Salt Lake City, UT

I love how anti-gays are so understanding of Russia's right to persecute gays.

Would these anti-gays be as understanding of "Russia's right" if it were persecuting, e.g., Christians?

We never seem to mind what governments do to people if those people are different from us. It's only when those people are the same as us that our hackles rise.

Yet the test of whether we're civilized or not is how well we can honor and support those fellow humans who are very different from us.

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