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Published: Sunday, Aug. 11 2013 7:44 p.m. MDT

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redshirt007
tranquility base, 00

Yet more proof why we need to put aside the childish immorality of deadly weapons.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

So, we have a young woman unlawfully killed by two cops and we get the County attorney and an internal affairs unit investigating.

Some convicted felon makes wild accusations against our Attorney General, who immediately asks for the feds to investigate, but instead gets a whole host of investigations started, with the politicos involved each vying to out do the others on getting a conviction in the court of public opinion before a single fact is reported.

Kind of makes you wonder how our justice system really works. Maybe scoring political points is a more serious concern than cops unlawfully shooting a young woman, at least to some powerful people.

A Guy With A Brain
Enid, OK

@ redshirt007 - tranquility base, 00 - "Yet more proof why we need to put aside the childish immorality of deadly weapons."

You're not seriously suggesting we need to make guns illegal are you? Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Yep, a loaded gun can sit safely on a shelf forever until a person pulls the trigger.

Surely you can't be THAT misguided.....

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

I absolutely agree with her. These gun happy cops need to be punished.

katy
salt lake city, ut

Every stop officers make is a risk to their own personal lives, too. There isn't much time to make a life and death decision as to whether they need to protect themselves. Much confrontation could be avoided if citizens would obey the laws and step out of their cars when asked. It is tragic for anyone to lose their life, but they have to take some responsibility for the choices they make.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Speaking in general because I don't know the details of this case the reason we hire policeman is so we can feel safer to protect us from those that would do us harm if it gets to the point for the policeman themselves are the ones we need to fear than that needs to be dealt with.

TimBehrend
Auckland NZ, 00

Very few stops in a peace officer's career put their lives at risk. The assumption that every stop could is the corroding acid that corrodes police policy into dehumanising confrontations with their citizen enemies.

Cleetorn
Fuaamotu, Tonga

So, TimBehrend, would you have all police officers just stroll up to any "stop" and shoot the breeze before getting to the business as hand? How would you try to differentiate a dangerous stop from a benign one while in the process? How would you justify all the officers who have been killed during a "routine" traffic stop? Should they not be totally prepared for ANY contingency, not just the ones you armchair quarterbacks attack after the fact?
And it's completely irresponsible to label all citizens as enemies to police. Police are citizens, too. Their enemies are the criminals. Are they not yours, as well?

JayTee
Sandy, UT

Cleetorn . . . this situation just supports the idea that there's really no substitute for some degree of functional intelligence if you're in a position of authority or possible dire consequence. If you really think that some unarmed little gal sitting behind the wheel of a car is a deadly threat, then maybe you need a job in the back room punching a keypad, or something else less threatening or scary to you. If someone is obviously armed and threatening, then you have reason for caution and should be PREPARED for more possible drastic action. Otherwise, use your head for more than a hat rack, and stay out of the way of the vehicle. This isn't nuclear physics.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

So will anybody tell me more about how this kind of thing won't happen if only the police are allowed to have Guns? This is something the anti-gun people won't acknowledge because it goes against their tyrannical agenda. The thing is, this type of incident with police unjustifiably killing people is exploding across the country.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

Sim Gill is correct, and the cops are peeved.
Why?
They have been exposed as not doing their jobs right, and a girl is shot dead.

CB
Salt Lake City, UT

A young girl is dead, but it might it have been different had she complied with
turning off her car, putting her hands out of the window and face the charges
that she had before her...Have we been told if she was under the influence of drugs
at the time this happened? Lots about the police, little about whether she had a
record.

Wessel12
Salt Lake City, UT

What some people are not taking into account is that this was not a traditional traffic stop where the uniformed police officers pulled up behind her in a marked squad car then issued instructions. These were detectives in plain clothes who were on foot. Ms. Willard may have been under the influence of drugs or she may not have. It doesn't matter. When two men with guns drawn approach a 21 year old young woman's car in WVC and start shouting things it is a normal response to panic and try to flee. Not turn off her car, roll down the window and see what they want.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

CB said: "A young girl is dead, but it might it have been different had she complied with
turning off her car, putting her hands out of the window and face the charges
that she had before her..."

Unfortunately these officers lied on their reports, as forensics proved so how do we know if she was or wasn't complying. These are bad folks who unfortunately were also officers. Not all who wear a badge do so honorably.
Deadly force has is becoming the norm instead of the exception when it comes to even minor offenses.

oldschooler
USA, TX

According to the victim's sister she was her inspiration, a person having drug addictions? Something is wrong there. If she had just done what the officers told her probably I would be doing somwthing else right now.

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

I am sorry that this young woman was killed. I am usually a supporter of law enforcement, they have to deal with the worst elements in humanity on a daily basis. But there are many questions about this account. I can't nod in agreement with the grieving sister, she doesn't know the full story and her pain is likely overwhelming.

RBB
Sandy, UT

Here is a radical idea. How about we let the jury hear the evidence and decide. It is sad that so many commentors act like they were eye witnesses. Mabey the girl was just trying to flee. Maybe she was trying to run over the police officer. Nothing like convicting someone after hearing one side of the story.

IdahoStranger
NEWDALE, ID

The root cause of this incident is the phony War on Drugs. We are not winning that war and we never will. You cannot stop people from doing stupid things but we have succeeded in making illegal drug dealing a very lucrative enterprise.

" Drug War allows drug lords to make a lot more money
End the drug war. The deteriorating economic conditions and the mess with immigration invite the violence of the drug lords and corrupt officials on both sides. It's time to break up the coalition of the religious drug warriors and the drug dealers who fight any effort to decriminalize drugs. It's time to treat all drugs the way we treat alcohol and cigarettes, substances that kill millions more than hard drugs do. The drug war allows drug lords to make a lot more money than legalized drugs ever would."
Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.156 , Apr 19, 2011

Drugs are not that expensive to produce. It's their illegality that makes them expensive for users and taxpayers. Handle them like alcohol. Not a perfect system, but it will surely be a vast improvement over what we are doing.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Amen Idaho stranger.

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