Comments about ‘BYU football: Unique aspects of BYU helped sway 2 non-LDS commits, Cedric Dale and Nick Kurtz’

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Published: Sunday, Aug. 11 2013 3:41 p.m. MDT

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kaspercasey
gilbert, AZ

Nice pick up! BYU seems pretty stacked at receiver this year and it seems like that trend will continue.

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

The train rolls on. It no doubt is getting under the skin of you know who. The boys up north can only sit and watch, and they don't like what they see.

Good times coming - go Cougars!!

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: Howard S.

"Not everyone chooses to play against the best possible competition... USC and Oregon for example...

Some have other priorities... nothing wrong with that."

Yeah, because Texas, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Michigan, Boise State, and Nebraska are horrible competition. Oh, and BYU is playing USC, so I guess Oregon must trump all of the previously mentioned teams. No wonder Kurtz turned down Oregon for BYU. No brainer.

BYU78
McLean, VA

The world according to Howard S: "Not everyone chooses to play against the best possible competition... USC and Oregon for example..."

Good try, Howie. We're playin' USC. And Stanford. And not just them, but Notre Dame. And Texas. And Wisconsin, Nebraska, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Virginia, etc. Join the Y, play the college football world in four different time zones, on readily accessible national TV just about every week, not just on the West Coast on sideband satellite channel 2187b. Young Mr. Kurtz wishes to take part. His family wishes to see him every week! A wise young man and a happy family! Welcome aboard, Mr. Kurtz!

BYU78
McLean, VA

Chrissy bleats: "And how many athletes ... (have) been prevented from finishing their career due to byu's "unique" environment?"

Chrissy, can you actually document one player who couldn't access the wide world of college football, in Division 1, 2, or 3, amongst 300+ teams -- because of insidious, evil BYU blocking them from doing so???? Names and dates, please -- you're going to have a tough time wetting a crying towel on this one, hon. But here, I'm charitable tonight, so I'll give you a head start ...

Waaaahhhhhhhhhhh............... :-)

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

Howard S.

"Not everyone chooses to play against the best possible competition... USC and Oregon for example..."

or against some of the worst competition... Washington State and Colorado, for example.

CO Ute
PARKER, CO

It seems that these two men had a strong connection to BYU, as much for the atmosphere as for the football program, and made commitments to the Cougs. As a Utah fan, I have a simple two part comment.

First congratulations to both the school and the athletes. I hope this works out well.

Second, having some non LDS players (or non Catholic player at Notre Dame) can only help diversify the program which is good for everyone.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

There is no doubt that Cedric Dale could be a good weapon at RB, but when you consider his talents and abilities, along with what BYU's needs are, and quite frankly where this kid could contribute the most, I think BYU has got to play him at corner. Seriously, when you look at how deep the current backfield is and how badly BYU needs depth at corner, he could be a star there if he stays patient. He could be the next Jordan Johnson in the next couple years and start, he may even be better than Jordan Johnson in the future. That is where he will shine the most. If he plays running back, he'll just be another convert on third down, play out of the slot, contribute on special teams guy. He won't be the every down guy, he just won't. If BYU plays him at corner, though, he could be THE guy in a couple years.

shorts
Payson, UT

re:CO Ute
parker, CO

Thanks good comment

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"Not everyone chooses to play against the best possible competition... USC and Oregon for example..."

Do you say the same thing about football players who play ON the Oregon team?

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Much better recruiting year compared to the past couple of years. Kurtz had 7 offers from BCS schools (according to Rivals). Compare that to last years recruits. Of the 31 listed on Rivals Kearsley had 8 BCS offers and the other 30 had a total of 9!

So glad we won't have to play against him! (Assuming he comes in and plays in 2014 and 2015) Not afraid of him, I'm just glad we won't be playing the Y those years! I wonder who Michigan recruits?

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

@ Co Ute,

"...having some non LDS players (or non Catholic player at Notre Dame) can only help diversify the program which is good for everyone."

Simply classy and oozing in civility! Thanks!!!

Go Cougars! And go Utes too...(after we put a hurtin on y'all hopefully come Sept!) Keeping my fingers crossed but definitely not holding my breath! Those 300+lbs poly mammoths on the Utes o line worries me a lot! Dang, wished they hadn't all chose Utah. Hope they tear up the PAC 12 though after we beat them. Wouldn't that be sweet! Let the season begins! Got tickets already for the Virginia game and I can't wait.

Utes11
Salt Lake City, Utah

Wow,
BYU hopes to compete for a "National Championship" by competing for recruits with Texas Tech, Colorado State, Nevada-Reno and North Texas.........good luck with that. You will be fortunate to beat Weber State.

TexasTrueBlue
FT WORTH, TX

I know Sterling Castlemain (he is currently on a mission in Russia)and have seen Cedric play - he is fast and will be a huge asset to the team. Getting excited for the future and this season - Go Cougs!!

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: Howard S.

"Not everyone chooses to play against the best possible competition... USC and Oregon for example..."

I apologize for my earlier post. For some reason I thought you were trying to slam BYU and their upcoming opponents. Upon re-reading your post I see that you're simply pointing out that USC and Oregon choose not to "play against the best possible competition." I looked it up and sure enough, Oregon's SOS is ranked #58 and faces the formidable Nicholls State, Colorado, Utah, and Washington State. USC plays a marginally better schedule but also faces Colorado, Utah, and Washington State. My bad.

Go Cougs!

Pavalova
Surfers Paradise, AU

Sometimes blind squirrels do get nuts from time to time. That's how BYU got these guys from much better BCS schools. Not bad for a for a school full of choir boys and doily seamstresses.

J-TX
Allen, TX

Y'all like that stadium where Cedric Dale is doing his workout at the Nike Training Camp? That's our $60M Allen High School Stadium in Allen, TX. Seats 18K+. Kind-of a nice facility..... :-)

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Pavalova

"Sometimes blind squirrels do get nuts from time to time."

Like Utah being invited to be cannon fodder in a big boy conference.

Duh
west jordan, ut

That's the point. BYU is not all about football. We, as fans, sometimes forget that. Though I would love another Championship, I would rather not have one than give up the morals that BYU stands for. I like this young man's thinking and it will grow on others. I am going to watch BYU football no matter what happens with their record. Time will make us better and that Chris B, you can mark it down!

The Solution
Las Cruces, NM

Two important keys in this article:

1. Cedric Dale was influenced by his fellow Mormon QB that "...everyone looked up to." The influence every member makes in high school can greatly impact a decision of a highschool grad.

2. Cedric Dale plans to go back to Texas to promote BYU to other Christians who do not know what they would be getting at BYU. We can expect to see more of this when non-LDS players have a good experience at BYU. That is why situations like Joe Sampson last year, who felt compelled to backup Zac Stout in an off-campus fight that saw both of them kicked off the football team, are so devastating. Stout is LDS, and he should have tried to be a better influence and example of good standards.

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