BYU students struggle with gap weeks between housing contracts


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  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Oct. 18, 2013 9:39 a.m.

    I don't know what happens in Provo, but in Logan we have the same problem, and it is absolutely the landlords clearing their properties "for cleaning." And that's regardless of how much planning you put into your housing. When I was single, I would usually purchase my housing contract for the next year 4-6 months in advance, but landlords were almost invariably inflexible on the contract dates, unless you wanted to pay through the nose to get in early, and even then you probably wouldn't be able to get in early enough to avoid spending a night or two on a friend's couch. They've got everyone over a barrel simply because all the landlords do exactly the same thing, so it's not like you have options. Even if a significant percentage of unmarried student apartments were rented month-to-month instead of by the semester, it would largely alleviate the problem by spreading out the move-out dates.

  • rnoble Pendleton, OR
    Aug. 16, 2013 5:20 p.m.

    I recognize that I attended BYU a long time ago, but I really did not have any of the problems described here. Housing contracts were signed before I moved in but I moved out on my schedule; not theirs. On two occasions that was before the semester ended but on every occasion it was when I could move into the new place. I did not even think about being "homeless".

    I also don't remember any conflicts with BYU housing rules. "Approved" housing was a way to ensure a specific minimum standard but I stayed where I wanted and could afford whether "approved" or not. Sometimes that was nearby in the tree streets or northeast bench, but I also lived in Payson, Springville, and out near Geneva. My parents sent 4 kids to BYU before me and I never heard of any of these type problems with them either. I do recall conversations about buying so that all offspring could live cheaper but that was about costs. It was vetoed because not all wanted to continue living with siblings.

  • K Mchenry, IL
    Aug. 12, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    Students are adults. Virtually all the male students will have served two year missions before freshman year moving forward. Any 18 year old can marry legally, serve their country in the military and be sealed in the temple. Explain to me how an 18 year old sealed in the temple can live whetever they want to but an 18 year old single woman or a 20 year old single man can't? I think freshman already have to live on campus if they are not married? So it's a 19 year old single woman delaying a mission, a 21 year old single woman back from a mission or a 21 year old single man being in this situation. They aren't kids.

    I thought education week was the problem?

    Are these students paying monthly or by semester? Are they given credit for the part of the month they can't get into the room? All the nonY approved housing choices aren't closed for those days.

  • washcomom Beaverton, OR
    Aug. 12, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    There are times when the property managers or owners need to get in and do maintenance without their tenants. It's harder to put in new carpet or paint the walls that others have screwed up when there are people living there, and are not very clean.

    The gap shouldn't be that great, but people need to realize - it is a business as well. Try as they might, not all property managers are understanding of the tenants' situations unless the tenant actually begins their communication with the manager. They aren't mind readers, y'know.

  • aggiefather Fulton, MO
    Aug. 12, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    The only time in my entire life that I was "homeless" was the night between the end of my BYU on-campus housing contract and the first day of my off-campus housing contract for summer school. It caught me off-guard and my family, in those pre-mobile phone days, was on vacation. In desperation, I sneaked back into my old dorm and slept on a rolled-up wrestling mat in the basement. I believe a special ring could be added to Dante's Inferno just for BYU landlords.

  • DHuber Palmyra, NY
    Aug. 12, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    The problem is students are not adults. If they were adults they would just stay and wait to be evicted. Few landlords would file eviction paperwork and it would never hit their credit records. Students are taken advantage of by the community and the university. For example when BYU-Idaho went to almost year round school did rents decrease despite the fact the properties had 33% greater income? No way. Did the school meet with landlords and request reduced rent. No. The cozy scratch my back I'll scratch yours arrangement remained.

  • Kelliebelle66 West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    I was a BYU landlord up until 5 years ago. We had a four-plex that catered to married students. I bent over backwards to work with my students having been a BYU student myself. Not all landlords are like those painted in these comments. I had a low mortgage payment and kept my rents very reasonable. I only charged a deposit and then first month's rent upon move in. We did 30 day contracts only. If a tenant was going to be a few days late on rent and called me I waived fees. We kept our buildings maintained and I encouraged the students to make their place their own so they had pride in their home. The reason I was able to do this was because of the caliber of renter BYU married students were in general. We never had any problems with people taking advantage or destroying property. I told tenants if they fixed anything they broke and checked out with me we could catch any thing they missed and they would get 100% of their deposit. It worked great. Not all landlords are evil. Maybe it's because it wasn't a huge complex or management company.

  • CD Jorgensen Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 12, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    Being 18 may make a person legally an adult, but that boundary is arbitrary. They have not yet fully matured nor gained the wisdom that comes with experience. In that sense, I can understand and appreciate the restrictions on housing. It's too great a leap from parents' rules to none at all, and I don't believe most freshmen are capable of adapting in a mature way without rules.

    On the other hand, the housing problems at BYU and BYU-I are ridiculous. I attended BYU-I when it was still Ricks College. I paid about $1200 a semester to share a amall off-campus apartment with 5 other guys, and that was one of the cheaper places. That comes to $1800/month combined. By contrast, when I got married a year or so later and moved into an apartment outside any college town, our rent was $650/month.

    I would suggest this (reasonable) compromise:
    * Freshmen must live in on-campus housing or with their parents.
    * Sophomores have the option to stay on-campus, if space is available after new freshmen are housed, or to live in off-campus, univeristy-approved housing.
    * Juniors and Seniors can live wherever they choose.

  • mecr Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    To My2Cents,

    Your comments is way out of line. Not everybody have rich parents to support them 100% but yet, they try to get a college education and have a better future in this economy. There are students who work very hard during the summer to save the most they can for the school year. They supplement that income with part-time jobs, living in VERY modest accommodations (had you ever seen a regular apartment in BYU?) and live on ramen noodles soup. If you are renting, would you like to be out of your apartment for 2 weeks and live off your car, camping, a friend's house in the best case, etc every 4 months? I don't think so! They are not asking for better or opulent life styles. They are asking to be able to have a roof on their heads and that, I do not think it is luxurious neither opulent at all. Just so you know, average rent is $350 a month for a shared bedroom and during the break, landlords charge up to $40 a day. That's what's happening in the BYU universities.

  • City Home Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    We've got 1 daughter at BYU now and have had 4 daughters graduate. They've lived in plenty of different apts and had good and BAD experiences with landlords. I must agree with many posters who say the BYU housing office isn't a lot of help for certain things. We had problems with a land lord and were told we needed to file a formal complaint which we did and actually it worked wonders in resolving the problem.

    I must say we have tried to rent properties managed by Mt. View Management company. They are marvelous to work with. They have made accomodations for us to come early or to stay a few extra days just as Mr. Bishop said in the article that they do. Rent on of their properties and you are in good hands!!!!!!

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    I am small potatoes in the student couples rentals. We never force anyone out and if they need a day or too ok. We also rarely raise rent if a couple decides to stay another year. And we are 1 block to the Univ. Looks like most of the couples locations are being taken up with large singles buildings. There is turmoil in the market. I suggest landlords try to work with students and it seems most of them are.

  • mpschmitt Boston, MA
    Aug. 12, 2013 10:07 a.m.

    It is unconscionable to me that students at BYU would be treated this way, and for so long. The school should apply significant pressure (with $$ and threatened legal action where appropriate) to any landlords who consistently demonstrate an unwillingness to treat their tenants in a legal and ethical manner. There should be a contractual requirement (with plenty of legal and financial consequences stipulated) for the landlords, with the details of that contract being made available to all students. Students should have a channel opened up for reporting violations of this contract on the landlord's part, and BYU should be actively inspecting properties for violations.

    The Church is clear about how it feels about this rising generation. It's time we stood by these noble young people who are just trying to get the best education they can so they can go out into the world and make a difference. The accommodations don't need to be palatial, but these students should be able to find adequate, safe, healthy housing, for a reasonable price, so that they can focus on the real reason they are attending a university.

  • Yorkshire City, Ut
    Aug. 12, 2013 10:05 a.m.

    I for one am very glad that BYU has "approved housing".

    Once, we had a BIG issue with one of the "approved apartments"landlords which, in this case, was code for 'disingenuous bloodsucker trying to wring maximum profits for minimum effort from students'.

    BYU got involved and sent a law student to our aid. We finally got satisfaction and in short order of time, this landlord and his establishment were removed from the "approved housing list."

    BYU cannot stop all greed and abuse of students by these bloodsuckers, but I am grateful they try, by having the system in place that they do.

  • K Mchenry, IL
    Aug. 12, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    It's ridiculous. The students are stuck cause the unmarried ones have to live in approved housing. The rest of the world rents a place for 365 days a year. The rest of the world doesn't have a number of days where you can't move to ANY new apartment. Yes apartments have to be cleaned. People have to move out before someone can move in.

    What I don't understand is 18 and 19 year old men and women are considered adults in the church and able to be basically clergy with serving missions. Why all the babysitting and micromanaging of their college lives? The twenty year old coming back from his mission can't be trusted to live in a place of his chosing because he isn't married?

  • wazzup Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    Landlords have NO incentive to work with students or keep their properties in good shape. They have a captive audience, supported by BYU, in which they can do what they want, including price fixing. Because if they were taken off the BYU 'market', the students would truly be homeless.

    Its a bad situation. They can charge what they want and maintain or not maintain their properties. The additional housing required for missionaries had made it even worse for the students.

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 8:37 a.m.


    Maybe it's not my business, but if you're struggling to afford a place to live and support yourself, perhaps now is not the best time to "start a family."

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    Yeah, not just a BYU problem. Green Canyon in Logan gets pretty crowded with campers the week after school gets out...

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Aug. 12, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    I went to BYU for years and not once had this problem, and I stayed at different apartments each year (and summers). Is this really a problem? Does this have anything to do with students not paying attention to when their contract ends until it is too late to do anything about it? I could see this as an issue if they contacted the management office a couple of months before the semester ended, but I assume that most of the problems arise a couple of days before the contract ends and the apartments are already spoken for, so they have to be cleaned and prepared for the next renter.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 12, 2013 7:54 a.m.

    Wow! I am absolutely floored and blown away by this revelation! I have four daughters that went to BYU and all of them lived in students housings and rented apartments around campus throughout their times there, but I never heard any complaints about this sort of thing other than a couple of not so favorable roommates. In fact they all seemed to love their experiences and they made wonderful friends who they still keep in touch with. Many of them came to their weddings all the way to the DC Temple where 3 of my daughters got married.

    To hear this kind of thing is very disheartening, especially in a place where honor and integrity is emphasized. It seems that the almighty dollar, or the pursuit of it for that matter is more paramount than dealing honestly and showing love and compassion towards the students. Sounds like the kingdom of darkness is alive and well in the midst of Zion! Very sad!!!

  • Larceny Rural Hall, USA, NC
    Aug. 12, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    Well, as a current and concerned BYU student, I had to search all over for even *affordable* rent this summer, and I found a dumpy 3 bedroom apt with 6 people living in it for what I believe should be the price of a *much* nicer place.

    I am SICk and Tired of housing in Provo doing this to honest students who can barely afford to support themselves as they attempt to start a family!

    Let's fight! Let's make our voices heard! I'm ready to set out on the war path, and campaign until we are treated decently and having livable conditions that help us feel like we matter more than the exorbitant dollars we represent to greedy landlords!

    Let's make some noise!

  • runnerguy50 Virginia Beach, Va
    Aug. 12, 2013 6:01 a.m.

    This is taking advantage of students and it does not sound like BYU is doing nything concrete about it.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 4:14 a.m.

    I was right, this is not about the students going homeless a few day a year, its a landlords woe of despair and loss of state funds paying students inflated rent.

    These young adults should be learning by this time of cutting the cord with parents and tax payers that they are accountable for their own care and food and housing. They should all have part time jobs to pay their rent and buy their own food, what makes them think we taxpayers are to be held accountable for the pitiful excuse for not taking care of themselves.

    They think its bad being homeless for a few days, they have no idea of what homeless really is until they are on their own with degree in hand and parents who won't let them back in their house to hide from their own accountability.

    This is another plot hatching to increase the burden on working parents living in poverty to help and aid for the welfare class and education fraud to more opulent lifestyles.

    The Socialist generation is being told they need to make their parents pay the rent to landlords as well as their party lifestyles.

  • petrarque Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 4:13 a.m.

    When I was at BYU, we received notice in the summer that they would be remodeling our apt and that workers would be in and out all summer long. Short of it, we would come home some evenings to find our door unlocked, wide open and contractors gone. The "manager," another student like us getting free rent, empathized with us, but couldn't give us owner contact information. It took a registered, certified, letter quoting portions of our contract and rights to get a response and even that was a joke. "We do not understand why you don't appreciate the improvements we are making to your apartment."

    We contacted the BYU housing office and their tone changed, but it still makes me furious even 20 years later that I was treated like scum. I was allowed out of my contract and offered a $100 settlement, but in accepting it was told I had to leave immediately.

    Fortunately, I found another place that prorated rent the rest of summer. Shame on the greedy landlords across Provo. Even worse, though, are the students who put up with it. Use your voices and stand up for your rights. Nothing will change until you do.

  • bretcliftawn Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 12, 2013 12:24 a.m.

    This problem was sadly hilarious when I was at BYU-I. I had to work at my off campus job through the semester change and even stayed in the same place through both semesters but was told I had to leave for that week when school was out for some reason. Thankfully I had an awesome RA who told me to stay put, lie low and he'd make sure I'd be ok. I always felt bad for the international students who had no family or lucky situation like I did in order to make it through and wondered how they did it.

  • Sego Lilly Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 12:06 a.m.

    a few years ago DN ran an article about the college students being made home because landlords wanted to do maintinance on the apartments. These so called maintenance schedule coensided with BYU Education week. Guess what - these same apartments were being rented to out of towners while the students were forced to find another place to lay their head at night. Those who signed a new contract for their old apartment were finding that nothing had been done.

    Pay attention to when the leases end and when Education Week happens. The landlords are making lots of money during that time.

  • TaipeiModerate New Haven, CT
    Aug. 11, 2013 10:47 p.m.

    I cannot speak for all of the BYU-area properties, but it is pretty clear that in many instances this is a classic social choice instance of rent-seeking by the landlords. They have found many ways to extract higher-than-market benefits from BYU administration.

    Like any similar planned economic system, BYU's policy has created perverse incentives for the landlords-- they understand that they can do virtually anything to local students without facing consequences. This is why King Henry and Belmont didn't lose accreditation in light of site-allowed drinking culture and dangerous parties. This is also why a particularly popular student married housing complex applied birth defect-causing concrete sealant without warning its residents, and BYU discouraged the formation of a tenant strike to resolve the complaints.

    Any economist worth his salt, including BYU's Kearl or Pope would tell you the particular inputs would yield this result.

  • mecr Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    Every semester break I have my college children and nieces and nephew¬° 5 kids total. Sometimes, an extra friend too. And all because landlords. In fact, it doesn't matter if they are renewing comtract, they got to leave. Maybe they could stay but have to pay extra but these kids live on instant soup diet so they just grab their boxes and get out. Housing ddoes not charge cheap and yes, there is housing that looks like getto. In fact, one time, we rent an apartment because pics look nice but when we landed in Provo and met the room, there was no way on how to get out of contract. The room was dark, smell moldy, mattreses was like one from a shelter and dont start me with the bathroom. BYU Housing response? "my son lives there and it's perfectly fine". I didn't think so!

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 8:52 p.m.

    Maybe I need to start letting students stay in my basement for $50 a week during this time. I could pack in about 40 of them in sleeping bags.

    I've never even heard of this problem so it is good someone is bringing it to light. I was married by the time I went to BYU so we lived in on campus married housing. It was a great deal and we made some great friends.

    I'm hoping with the drop in freshmen due to missions, the landlords will start to clean up their places and rent will drop. Competition will be a good thing for Provo.

  • Azmort Box elder, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 8:48 p.m.

    Before you sign a contract ask what their policy is if you needed to stay a few days longer or move in early. If they say they will work with you, get that in writing. Or have them highlight that part of the policy in the contact that states that. If they are unwilling at least you know that upfront.

  • Buzzards LEHI, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 8:34 p.m.

    I managed a business in Provo that had small storage spaces for rent. Every August we moved in a few dozen BYU students who stayed a week, then emptied their lockers. In talking with them, a few went and camped on the beach in CA for a week, some went camping up the canyon, and a few did the real homeless gig, sleeping in their cars or in city parks for a few days. Provo's homeless population is probably the least drug addicted in the nation, but you better believe they are there, at least for a few days in August.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Aug. 11, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    I had to return to school a week before my contract opened at 9th north and 9th east. They absolutely refused any option to me so I could move in, even though the apartment was empty and cleaned professionally. I ended up drive next to the city park east of the apts later in the evening, throwing a sleeping bag out for the night. One kind jogger woke me up each morning as the sun was coming up. Got in the apt on 1st day allowed. Months later, met the jogger; happened to be the mayor of Provo. Long time ago but still funny.

  • E.S Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 4:56 p.m.

    Loved Provo and had a great time there. However, dealing with my landlord was a real pain too - especially because I was already married and with a kid. Our landlord made us sleep on our car for a night, because she lied to us saying she didn't get a hold of our references, when the truth was that she never called them at all (we called each of the names and no even one received any call). Both her and her husband manage the Villa Rose Apartments, around 100 South. They only have three ours a day of office hours, they are always traveling and knocking their door is ALWAYS a inconvenience. One day my wife went there to talk with them and their daughter answered the door and said my wife shouldn't be coming over with repairs request because it always upset her mom. We really hated those landlords - and every single couple we know that lives there also do. DON'T GO TO THE VILLA ROSE APARTMENTS!

  • sisucas San Bernardino, CA
    Aug. 11, 2013 4:16 p.m.

    All these people are crying about the landlords making so much money off of students. Why don't you just buy a place down there for yourself or your student if you think they are so profitable? I've wanted to buy property down there, but struggle to know how to make it worth my while.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Aug. 11, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    I thought we were talking about BYU going independent in football...

  • Russell Howes Los Angeles, CA
    Aug. 11, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    The teaser headline on the front page "Is BYU's 'homeless period' a real problem or the result of poor planning?" is tabloid-esque and pretty clearly biased towards mitigating criticism of the Y's arcane and ridiculous housing policy. Yes this problem happens at non-church schools, but there the students have the option to live elsewhere, giving the complexes a little more incentive to not shaft their tenants.

    BYU students are a captive market susceptible to landlords whose apartments or management either (a) do not meet quality standards and manage to keep their approval through dishonest tactics or (b) woefully overcharge for the quality of apartment they provide. With the recent transition from student to YSA wards, this seems like a great time for BYU to ditch its onerous housing policies and start treating its students as adults, like other posters have said.

  • Kinderly Riverdale, MD
    Aug. 11, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    TimBehrend, I have to say, I don't know that a free market approach would fix the problem. I think with a free market, the apartment management would be LESS inclined to be accommodating to students' needs. At least with the "BYU nanny" the school housing office can help resolve problems. Without BYU, they would be more likely to have contracts that ended at the end of a month but for most students, a contract that coincides with the school year is a nice benefit.

    I also was EXTREMELY grateful when I was a BYU student that I didn't have to pay more rent if someone moved out early or hound roommates for their share of rent or utilities. Individual contracts have so many advantages. I was very grateful that I didn't come home to people having sex or smoking marijuana in my bedroom, like all my friends at other schools experienced. I think the "BYU nanny" helps students with housing more than it hurts.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Aug. 11, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    When BYUI was Ricks and BYU now I am sure there are a few students who work on campus or in town between semesters. For major cleaning they may put them in one apartment while they clean the rest. Christmas break don't know how many charge extra.

    Not a whole lot of people are homeless if they don't have to be. If you enjoy camping summer not bad time to wait until school starts to camp if you can stay warm. Of course that is out of the question in the Winter.

    Some people seem to have bad roommate experiences. For ones that don't shower, cost money I would say people need to do things about them. However for the most part I think many roommates wind up being the best of friends. It was that way with me for most roommates, though some are not great experiences. I never meant them before either and knowing them before you room can help. But many strangers become friends.

  • windsor City, Ut
    Aug. 11, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    Sadly, have to agree with the posters who see those who rent properties in utah county....the dollar signs in their eyes are paramount to everything else. :(

  • BarkforSark PROVO, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    I find Provo apartment complex managers to be complete crooks. They'll kick you out in a heartbeat when your contract ends, forcing you to scramble for a place to stay before you can move into your new place, but when it comes to evicting bad roommates... well, that's a three month ordeal. I had one roommate who after eating all our food and destroying my $1,200 laptop it was finally discovered he wasn't even supposed to be living there because his initial deposit check bounced. You'd think when this was brought to the management's attention they'd waste no time in getting him out of there. Nope. It took over a month. All part of standard eviction procedure, they said. What a joke.

  • Mark from Montana Aurora, CO
    Aug. 11, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    I have had one son at BYU Prove and three daughters at BYU I and my experience with every landlord, and both of the student housing offices were negative. The landlords, in Provo particularly, are greedy with little regard for the students. Take a small apartment, fill it with six students each paying $300 per month and you can see how much money these people make. On top of that many are old and moldy places that if free market ruled, would be torn down. They also charge a 'utilities fee' that is supposed to cover phone lines. Yet when the apartment complex removed the phones, there was no drop in the utilities fee. The fee is enough to pay for all utilities, plus give the landlord an extra $300 - $$400 per month in profit.

    I fully respect the stance BYU takes on housing, with three daughters attending college trust me I support the concept. Yet seldom does the housing offices do anything more than lip service. At BYU I, one daughter had a room mate that refused so shower, kept the heat on during the summer and the room stunk. She had to sleep with her sisters to survive.

  • Nana Sid West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 10:10 a.m.

    Not just a BYU problem. Same thing happens in Logan with USU students.

  • borox23 Payson, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    Landlords are all about helping themselves, excuse me, helping students out. I mean, combined rent that is usually around 1200 or more for a tiny shabby apartment in Provo is perfectly reasonable even though it rivals my mortgage! If property owners are frustrated by this perception that they are emptying their properties then maybe they shouldn't do it. Encouraging students to talk to them is a good start, they are usually great at fixing maintenance issues really quickly too! Years ago as a freshman from out of state I experienced the same thing at on campus BYU Housing, had to take my stuff and stay at my sisters for a few days when changing from one dorm to another, but maybe my perception was just off. I'm sure there are many caring property owners but I think there are a healthy number that know that BYU students need to be in BYU approved housing and put the screws to them a bit with inflated cost and this homeless weekend issue.

  • Zadruga Guy West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 7:36 a.m.

    Maybe things have changed from when I went to the Y, but I sure don't recall Provo landlords being willing to work with students during the gaps. I recall on one occasion sleeping in my car overnight.

  • TimBehrend Auckland NZ, 00
    Aug. 11, 2013 7:18 a.m.

    A free market approach to property rental without the BYU nanny might go a long way towards alleviating problems like this. But that would require recognising that its students are adults.

  • Beck to Harline Provo, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 12:41 a.m.

    This is exactly what happened to me after Fall Semester, Winter Semester, and Spring Term this past year. It's a real problem, no matter what the cause of it is. I hope they figure something out soon, because as of now, it is extremely inefficient/impractical.