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Published: Friday, Aug. 9 2013 7:10 p.m. MDT

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The Utah Republican
Alpine, UT

So ... "Heaven on earth" is determined by how close and tall your neighbor's house is?

Really?

“It’s just been a very, very tragic thing for our family,”

Really?

Maybe it would be better to put your treasures in a better place than in house and yard upgrades. I can think of a few good causes. How about an education or micro-loan program for people who live in the favelas, or in Soweto?

Dang I'm ashamed of Utah tonight.

I know it. I Live it. I Love it.
Salt Lake City, UT

The Utah Republican,

Please, I will do you the respect of asking kindly. Please, as a fellow Utahn, show a little more compassion and respect to your fellow Utahns. There is no good thing that will ever come from treating others with such judgement and condemnation.

It's very easy to judge someone else when they live a different life than you do. You don't know these people, their past, and who they are. You and I both have no right to judge them.

1) By decreasing their property value, this affects them directly. Pretending it doesn't is a lie.
2) If you disagree, fine. Post your address to the world and invite everyone to come over at 3:00 AM with loud-speaker PA systems and blast your ears... every single night for the rest of your life.

Surely that is a fair comparison to an eye sore. But then again, you might want to put your treasures in a better place than in your beauty sleep.

I think the sound would resonate quite nicely off those Alpine mountains. I imagine you have a great view too. Enjoying it?

DisneyMom
Monroe, UT

The home being built meets city zoning ordinances. If a homeowner is so concerned what might be built behind their home - buy the property. Then you can be sure no one blocks your view! No whining!

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

First world problems "tragic"

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Well, Alpine I believe has the highest median income in the state of Utah. Where is the guy from Alpine putting his emphasis? Well, frankly, I'm ashamed of him. Also, I wonder how'd he like it if somebody stuck a high rise behind his Alpine McMansion?

bamball
Mesa, AZ

It's interesting how everyone is pro-property rights in a libertarian way, until it directly affects their own personal interests.

I may be going out on a limb here--a limb safely behind any landscaping setbacks--but I wonder if last year, before the offending house was ever designed, if the soon-to-be-offended family and neighbors were asked what they felt about property rights and governments telling them what they could or could not build on their own land, they would have probably screamed in unison that the govt better not tell them what to do, because this is America, and it's their God-given libertarian right to do whatever they feel is in their own best interest. Sounds to me like a typical Utah answer.

Now they want help, crying to their gubbermint officials, because the next town over is more libertarian and loose in the zoning laws, allowing a house to legally loom over their property. Can't have it both ways. Do you believe in hands-off libertarianism only when it suits you, for you and your kin, but not for others?

K
Mchenry, IL

It sounds like their home had a vacant lot behind it. Those things can always change. Especially on the the border.

The lot behind them looks to be on a higher incline, and two story home besides.

It may hinder sale of their home, but values are based in zip code and square feet. Upgrades aren't considered anymore in thei very bizarre housing market. Don't matter if you have expensive floors and the rest of the block has carpet. Doesnt matter if you have a new kitchen. Square feet and zip code are all that matter in valuation.

Edgar
Samaria, ID

I know it, I live it...I don't think The Utah Republican was being rude, he/she was just pointing out the absurdity of the comments made in the article. Or perhaps it was the naiveté of the residents of this neighborhood. Why would someone assume that they could maintain a million dollar view for perpetuity unless the vacant land allowing that view was situated such such that no one could build a house blocking the view? Or, as Disney Mom points out, they purchased the land themselves. The photo in the article illustrates that even a single story house would block the view of the mountain. The second story of that house mostly blocks blue sky. The property is in an adjacent city, with different zoning laws. Why wouldn't someone understand that before they invested $150,000 in landscaping upgrades based on the fact that the view would always be there. And now, having failed to do their due diligence in these matters, why should they assume that something can be done to change the law. Actually, I've changed my mind, this is not naiveté, it is just plain arrogance.

mightyhunterhaha
Kaysville, UT

This is the pot calling the kettle black. A Brighton Homes Subdivision went in Kaysville near Gailey Park. Those homes tower over the homes in the Happy Homes Subdivision. Those homes can stare into the yards and windows of the smaller homes. If Hiatt wants to protest he better make sure he does so in a fair way to all Kaysville residents.

georgiaonmymind1
Lawrenceville, GA

The trees block my view of the sky! Sheesh people get a grip! I know you don't stand outside staring at the mountains all day. You are blessed to live in an area where you are surrounded by mountains. We were just out there for a visit and they were everywhere!

suzyk#1
Mount Pleasant, UT

I don't think this situation calls for sarcasm. I agree with the homeowners who have lost their view of the mountains. Many times they choose an area so they can have the gorgeous view of our Utah mountains. Evidently the new owners never considered anyone's feelings but their own. It would be interesting how they would react if the shoe was on the other foot.

KTar
Boise, ID

While I don't think "tragic" is the appropriate word (I usually save that one for death), I do agree that it would be frustrating to be in this situation. I, for one, put a high value on my privacy and personal space. In this situation, I would most likely move as well.

Mom of 8
Hyrum, UT

"Very tragic for our family"?!

First world problems, dear--merely first world problems.

Take your children to see some third world families and how they live.
Gain some perspective.
Do some good for other people, instead of whining about a non-issue.
Thank God every day you have a house.

This is embarrassing.

Cedarite
Cedar City, UT

The people behind me built a tall tower-house to get the view over the top of my house, so we planted a bunch of trees so they can't see into every room in the house like it's a fishbowl. I don't notice them unless their dog barks at 3 am, and they still have the blinding sun streaming in first thing each morning since they oriented their tower view home to maximize it. Win-win!

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Must be a really slow news day, let's see we have a mother that was asked to leave a cafe, a home owner who lost their view of the mountains, and a football program which already celebrates too much after every play wanting to celebrate even more. That about covers it. Definitely a slow news day at the DN.

Edgar
Samaria, ID

marxist - "..if somebody stuck a high rise behind his Alpine McMansion" then he would deserve what he got. Because he didn't check to understand, before he built his Alpine McMansion, that zoning laws allowed the highrise to be built. But I think that is one of the reasons he chose to build/buy in Alpine, because zoning laws prohibit it. I'm stunned that you, of all people, are standing up for the people who want to deny a simple homeowner his rights granted by the laws of the land. I thought you were on the side of the common man, not on the side of the herd mentality that only wants what they want, not what is best for the community. Zoning laws are enacted by elected officials - elected by the people - and if the people don't like it there is a due process to change it. But whining and crying in the newspaper will not work, ever.

mcdugall
Murray, UT

@I know it. I Live it. I Love it.

As we all know money rules every aspect of life in Utah. The City of Layton has shown over the years they will let anyone build whatever they want as long as the pay for the permits and increases the city coffers. As a previous resident of Layton, I am not shocked. Ultimately it comes down to the social prevalence in Utah, one is judges by one's possessions, and a 4000+ sqft house ranks among one of the things everyone tries to achieve to elevate their status in the community.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

This sort of thing also causes a great deal of grief for those on America's coastlines. Those living in fabulous ocean views homes frequently deal with this. It began in the 1960s when people began building 3 story homes. People with the one story homes not only lost their ocean view, but the sunshine. It has become a normal every day issue, that city government has no control over. Even if they spent millions on their homes, residents/neighbors have realized they must live and let live.

ParkCityAggie
Park City, Ut

I saw some additional photo's over on KSL. What is not accurately represented here is the fact that the lot in back of these folks is considerably higher, you'll notice the back yard slopes up. The problem is that these people cannot enforce a height restriction on the neighboring property using the existing grade of their home. That's life in the mountains. Chances are someone else will always be higher up on the hill. So ya, the proper things for these folks to have done to preserve their view would have been to purchase the property. Oh and the loss of property values argument is laughable. When the appraiser comes to your house does he/she walk around it and assess the view? No, they look at comparables, square footages, upgrades within the home (counter tops flooring, etc). The fact that a home in the back might tower over your backyard might detract some from buying it is a valid point, but proving dropped home value would be near impossible. Good luck.

annewandering
oakley, idaho

We had a very nice view of the mountains. We would sit out on the porch and relax enjoying the view. We have a playhouse across the street that while it is great it has created a mess for us. It is historic and puts on great plays. Problem is they decided they needed storage room so they built an adjacent building. Ok. They build a monstrosity that completely blocks the view, which was not necessary if they had given thought and reoriented the building. Not only is it huge, destroying the view, it is faced with unpainted waferboard. Now that is a pretty sight indeed. It has been that way now for at least three years. We no longer sit on the front porch. We feel like we are in an industrial zone. It does no good to complain. This is a small town and does as it likes which is ok generally.
Their story and ours are much too common and are almost always brought on by people not considering other people. They just dont care and that is endemic in our society.

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