Duck: "But I don't even remember utah even beng a consideration for any
"best in the nation" recruit"I mean, come on...
you're really going to make it that easy? The nation's best TE
recruit (whom BYU also went hard after) has Utah in his top 5 this very year.
That means, unless he commits somewhere early, he will take an official visit to
all five schools. Mama has BYU in his top 13 and has been busy setting up visits
at Alabama and Wisconsin, decreasing the chance that BYU will be a factor.
It'd be fantastic for BYU if they could get him (although at G/T he's
not at a position that would be a major impact in the game, similar to a few
years ago when Utah actually DID get the "best in the nation" JUCO
recruit as an OT), but calling being in his top 13 any major consideration is a
little over the top.
Great pick up Cougars!! To all the trolls (you know who you are) he also had an
offer from Miami FL. By your rationale he must not be very good. Well, if I
based everything on your rationale I would have given up on the Cougs a long
time ago. Go Cougs!!
@ Chris BIt's an honor that you would take time from your
trivial and inaccurate comments to respond to me... Thank you.I have so
much that I want to say to you based on some of your comments...1)
BYU has won a National Championship, something Utah will never do (at least not
in our lifetimes);2) That gives BYU license to actually talk about
what it takes to win a NC, whereas Utah simply doesn't have the Resume to
do so;3) What good does it do to have a couple more stars for your
recruits when you are still picked to be the 3rd best team in the state???
Aren't stars for recruiting suppose to indicate the Power or Strength of a
team??? BYU (Low 30's)and Utah in the 60's again... Heck, there's
only 126 FBS programs and only 65 BCS members... According to virtually every
expert the Uties are picked to be one of the absolute worst teams again this
year in all of the BCS... (It's also interesting to note that
Utah ranks 64th out of 65 BCS Teams in Revenue Generation... Hmmm, I guess
"Strength" does follow "Money".)
All the "national championship" predictions aside, he sounds like a fine
player. He'll get his reality check when he straps up against college
competition, but he looks pretty talented. Good luck to him.
Ouch. As soon as Chris B made his comment about a team with a .2 record against
ranked opponents, I knew somebody would bring up Utah's record.Startling News!This just in: Chris B says Utes NOT an elite program!
Chris B"Elite programs don't go .200 against top 25
teams."Utah's all-time record against Top 25 teams is
.160Utah will NEVER, not in a MILLION YEARS, EVER get to even a .250
record against Top 25 teams.How many Top 25 teams has Utah beaten
since your flash-in-the-pan 2008 season?btw, please provide us the
complete list of teams that have at LEAST a .500 record against Top 25 teams.I'll bet you won't be able to find more than half a dozen such
programs, if any, that have played 20 or more Top 25 teams and have a lifetime
.500 record against Top 25 teams!Take as long as you need.
We'll be waiting.
I think Chris B. has a legitimate beef with this recruit... after all ESPN only
ranks him as the 8th best BYU recruit for the class of 2014. It's got to
be tough when your rivals eighth best player is getting quality scholarship
offers from teams all across the country. Kinda destroys the whole
"we're the best because we're in a BCS conference" schtick,
poyman,"There is simply no way one can say that this is not an
elite program that deserves serious consideration..."There is
simply no way a program whose 8 year head coach had a .200 record against top 25
teams can be considered an elite program.Elite programs don't
go .200 against top 25 teams.They are at LEAST .500And
you're MILES away from that even
I'm really liking how the Cougs are shaping up for the next few years in
both FB and BB... I predict top 25 finishes in both for the forseeable
future...Folks like Chris B can flaunt the BCS thing all they want,
but if I am a recruit and I see a kid that wasn't even known in NCAA
football before last year become the number 5 overall selection in the NFL
Draft, from a team that finished 3rd in the NCAA in defense last year, I am
going to have a very positive impression of that program.... Then throw on top
of that schedules that have that program playing solid teams from numerous BCS
conferences coast to coast and being assured that you will be on TV every week
ESPN, NBC, FOX or BYUtv you got to be interested in that program... ND, Texas,
GT, Boise State, Wisconson, Nebraska, Michigan, West Virginia and a couple of
PACSchools here and there (USC, Stanford, Arizona)... There is
simply no way one can say that this is not an elite program that deserves
54-10At least he doesn't have 'doormat' as a choice.
Would this kid be tradition, honor or spirit?
Ummmm....did he commit before or after he found out his name on his jersey will
be replaced by Tradition, Spirit or Honor??
Holy Moley! Chris B must really be sore about this kid committing to BYU.
He's posted something like 4 times on this already. it's really eating
at him.Good get for BYU and Bronco. I was really hoping we'd
get this kid. Good size and tremendous speed. Bronco is really dialed in with
getting blazing fast linebackers to BYU and Cook will be another in a long line
of them during his tenure.Go Tyler and Go Cougs!!
" ........... it just happens to be the most disputed in the history of
college football..."Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.
It's like saying 2 plus 2 doesn't really equal 4. Facts
are hard to dispute U90.
Cougar Blue,We can both agree that Chris B is over the top. Utah is
not as good and BYU is not as bad as he insinuates.However, your
comment that BYU has a shot at the NC is naive. Listening to a group of College
Football insiders yesterday talk about inclusion in the 5 Power Conferences as
being a pre-requisite for getting to the NC game. Which I agree, otherwise how
do you explain TCU, BSU, Utah and Hawaii going a combined 91-0 over seven season
and none of them made it to the NC.Actually BYU created it's
own problem here by winning the 84 NC. The Cougars forced the power conferences
to create the BCS and ultimately the current college football structure.Mind you, I did not say BYU didn't deserve the NC in 84, it just
happens to be the most disputed in the history of college football. If you put
your reality glasses on, you will realize that Utah has a one in a million shot
at an NC, and unfortunately BYU has a zero in a million shot.
Chrissy, yeah, BYU is going for its second NC... how about U?
Does he get to choose whether his new name will be Spirit, Honor, or Tradition?
Or does the coaching staff assign it?
Anyone sense panic settling in with Chris B this year? All he can talk about is
BYU. In fact he is consumed with everything BYU. We all know that this is a
smoke screen to deflect attention away from the mess on the hill they some
people call a football team. Don't even get me started on basketball.
Maybe we could talk skiing, however. That is a bright spot.
Chris B:Something else. Utah didn't EARN their PAC invite. They
got it be default when Texas turned it down. BYU probably would've had a
major conference invite before Utah if they were willing to play on Sundays.
Kudos to them by sticking by their principles.And what has Utah done
since joining? Doormat. It's too bad they can't figure out how to
equate stars by players' names with conference wins. I haven't read of
any online publication that has predicted the Utes will have a winning year.
None. I have nothing against coach Kyle or any of his players. But
I'm not looking at their program thru rose colored glasses either... like
you obviously are. The reality is that all of those 3 and 4 star recruits will
probably be watching others play in bowl games after this season ends... just
like last season. The fact that Utah is in the PAC-12 will impress
me and a lot of other non-Utah folks once they start winning more conference
games than they lose. Hasn't happened yet. Until it does, there truly
isn't much to brag about.
Utah has had a supposedly better recruiting class ever since U stumbled into a
Power conference invite, according to christina, yet U still only have the 9th
best logo in the conference...and your team isn't even that
Chris B. The Sunday School Boys have already won a National Championship. Just
Chris B:Keep those LOL's coming. Your comments generate more
laughs than anything else on this paper. You should be a college football sports
comedian. If you are actually writing your thoughts with a straight face, you
are setting yourself up for one gigantic fall on September 21st. The more you
disparage BYU, the worse Utah's loss is going to look when they play. Just 6 more weeks, and then we get to enjoy an entire year without
anymore posts from you on BYU articles... assuming you are a person of your
word. I can hardly wait!
@Duckhunter,And yet with millions of kids "dreaming" of
playing at byu, Utah has had a better recruiting class ever since we EARNED a
Power conference invite.Both by average stars AND head to head.So even though "millions" want to go to byu, when most kids have
offers to byu AND Utah,where do they pick usually these days?UtahUtahUtah
Ignore the troll and it will eventually find a bridge to hide under. Nice pickup
Cougars. Go Utes.
Damien Mama, the huge offensive guard from california and one of Cooks friends,
would be the recruit that put christina, azute, naval, howie, etc. into an
absolute tailspin. utah is not even a consideration for him but BYU is right at
the top of his list. It would be fun to get a committment from him if for no
other reason than to watch the mass suicides on the hill and on these boards.Oh and BYU seems to be in the running for "best in the nation"
recruits like Mama, Haloti Ngata, or Jabari Parker, somewhat regularly. Every
couple of years in one sport or another. And BYU sometimes gets the number one
recruit in the nation, Jake Heaps, Ben Olson, that big offensive lineman from
yexas a decade or so ago. But I don't even remember utah even beng a
consideration for any "best in the nation" recruit in any sport. I guess that is just one of the benefits of being one of the most
important institutions of the LDS church and having millions of kids dreaming of
Wow two years of being kicked around the PAC and then staying home really gets
to the Yutz fan. But then the basketball team surely is doing well to make up
for it right? Ah an ump, Guess not even worse. Well all that Kyle Van Noy and
how great BYU's defense is along with the outstanding basketball recruiting
has to be a downer so I get the jealousy it's cool. Mr Cook has one list
of offers, 'Zona, Boise St, BYU, Colorado the Yewts nemesis, CSU, Fresno
St, Hawaii, Kansas, Miami, Nevada, San Jose St, Vandy, Washington St, Yale. With
Oregon and ASU promising offers , he has impressed the football world, nice job
The top prospect in the nation could commit to BYU and Chris B will find
something negative to say about him. Even if football scouts were to say one of
BYU's commits was better than anyone in the NFL in his position, in Chris
B's eyes he will always be a 2-star choir boy.That being said,
I'm sure Tyler Cook will be a great addition to BYU football. Go Cougars!
Maybe this young man just wants to play in bowl games, crissy?
Chrissy:Nice deflection tactics dude. How's your mighty ute
football and round ball teams shaping up for the upcoming campaign???Can you say bottom dwellers??I love my bcs membership, man!!!
(quote from chrissy).
Chris, kids don't get together and talk about their shared dreams while
attending Utah. In fact, outside of Utah, I'm not sure many kids dream
about playing for Utah. Or know about Utah. Or have heard about Utah.
The kid plays very large, moves standing up with terrific quickness, and his
grades are in line with what BYU expects. Maybe the best part for BYU coaches is
that Tyler is insurance Fred Warner is also heading for Cougarville his
committment secure. Reports are that USC has gone heavy in trying to pry Fred
out of BYU's hands. It's hard not to see how Kyle Van Noy has
benefited from the system making him the most talked about defensive player in
the west, If you are a 3.2 plus student a highly regarded LB'er, who
doesn't want to be the next KVN? A very good pickup.
Welcome aboard Tyler; you're going to fit right in with a program
that's not afraid to set their sights on the highest achievements
possible.While other programs fret about not even being able to beat
a conference foe with a winning record, elite, legacy programs are not afraid to
dream of achieving the same high achievements of their predecessors.
In other news, Chris B has been given a 2-star rating by SLC's coed
softball leagues. Chris B plans to appeal the rating as he feels his three-game
hitting streak last summer is proof that he is at least a 4-star prospect.
@Cougarblue,"BYU has a shot, but many things must fall into
place"LOL!If you took EVERY "quality win"
bronco has in his entire 8 years at BYU and combined them all, it wouldt be good
enough to merit a national title game invitation.And you think he
can do better than that, in ONE year?LOL!P.S. Utah in
2008 ended #2 in the country.And how close has byu come lately?LOL!
christina if BYU signs a linebacker you can be assured he is good. If utah signs
a linebacker there is about a 1 in 30 chance he is any good. I know very little
about this kid, or any recruits for that matter, but when it comes to
linebackers I'm going to go ahead and give Bronco the benefit of knwoing
what he is doing, the results speak for themselves.Oh by the way,
utah would dearly love to have this kid, they just weren't a consideration
Nice to have you aboard Tyler. Here's some of the info the article leaves
out...Scout rates 3-star, #77 in position, and notes a 4.51 forty
time. Rivals also rates 3-star, #49 in state of CaliforniaESPN
rates 3-star, grade of 74, #91 positional, #136 regional, and #88 in stateHeld offers from AZ, Boise State, CU, CSU, Duke, Fresno St, Hawaii,
Kansas St, Miami (FL), Nevada, SJSU, USU, Vandy, Washington St, and Yale. Good get? You betcha!
I have the impression that someone who comments so much about a rival school has
some issues with insecurity. Counseling may help. Good luck as I hope that you
can work through it.
Great to have Tyler Cook and would love to have his friends, I know BYU has
offered Damien Mama (along with about 30 other schools) and Randy Beggs sounds
Dear Chris B. You never hear that talk from Utah, because they know it simply
is never going to happen at Utah, no matter what. BYU has a shot, but many
things must fall into place. Utah never, ever.
Oh Chris, how I enjoy reading your critiques of BYU. If only every school in
the country could be so blessed!
christyRemind us how many Top 25 teams Utah has beaten since their
high water mark in 2008.The truth is, Utah has been in steady
decline since their flash-in-the-pan Sugar Bowl season and the Ute faithful are
beginning to panic.BYU and USU finishing in the Top 25 and going to
bowls while the Utes are home watching bowl week from the comfort of their couch
has left the Utes with no option but to try to tear down the accomplishments and
goals of other programs, since the Utes don't have anything going for
themselves except a box full of PAC 12 stickers that they continue plastering
over everything that will hold still long enough.
In addressing purely his commitment, this is a big get for byu.I'll point out that the average stars of the NFL first rounders for 2013
was 3.53.So even if one in a million stories like Ziggy, the AVERAGE
was a 3.53What does this show?Even though SIGNIFICANTLY
more kids are give 2 and 3 stars, there were enough 4 and 5 stars to bring the
average up.I guess 2 star sunday school boys stay 2 star sunday
Bring home another NC Tyler!
In another article on Cook:"We talk about BYU all the time; we
talk about what we could do at BYU and how we can win a National Championship if
we all went there," LOL!What is it with these sunday
school boys who truly think they can help BYU win a national championship!No other program in the country has a coach with a .200 record against
top 25 teams and has kids and coaches that talk so much about their upcoming
national championship!About ready to print those "quest for
perfection" t shirts with this kid?It worked so well last time -
Welcome to BYU Nation Tyler; looking forward to you adding your name to the long
list of outstanding BYU linebackers.
Listen to this quote from yahoo sports article I easily found by googling his
name:"Cook also a teammate and friend who are also being
recruited by BYU. Teammate Randy Beggs is a db who really performed well at the
Rivals Camp Series in CA, and friend Damien Mama who is building a large list of
offers. "We talk about BYU all the time; we talk about what we could do at
BYU and how we can win a National Championship if we all went there," said
Cook."LOL!Remember the last high profile kids who
publicly talked about going to BYU to win a national championship?Jake Heaps - goneZac Stout - kicked out off team.Nothing
says "fits in at byu" like talking about a national championship!