know, live, love: He might not pose the threat to society of a rapist or
pedophile but he'll go on the same registry as the rest of them until
he's 90 years old and dead in the ground. Because as far as the
state's concerned, a child is a child and an offender is an offender. So
his mug will be grouped with all the others. Hope you enjoyed the first 27
years of your life, dude. Because there's no coming back from this one.
Hope you don't have a wife or kids (for their sake). Because you'll be
lucky to get a job in a fast food restaurant once you're branded for life.
Housing? Ha! Hope you own something and you'll be allowed to reside
there. Hope it was worth it.
Miss Piggie,I agree. A mere conversation shouldn't.However...The meaning of the law is something judges have always
considered, even the founding fathers did.The meaning of the law is
to protect minors. A minor sharing a picture is their choice and so I can
understand your concern in that his accepting a picture does her no direct harm.
I don't love it. But if I were his judge I could give him that credit. But
as a judge, being that she simply sent him pictures, the first thing I'd
think isn't about age.The primary concern is that he had
authority over her.1) That makes his behavior abusive.2) That
also makes her age come into play. A teen girl sending a 27 year old guy a
picture is a choice she makes. But if he's welcoming it and he has
authority over her AT ALL, then it is as much an age abuse.She can
"tango" to her hearts content. But him "tangoing" back is taking
advantage of someone at an age that they don't FULLY realize their actions
& consequences.Therefore, it's more than simply a
lost in DC,If she were emancipated or a 16 year old that was
married, as the law does allow, then he would seem less like the predator
everyone now sees him as. The simple fact is that she was willing. Does that
make him a calculating hardened evil man? No. It makes him a guy who let urges
dictate choices that he knew he should avoid, but didn't. Rarely do most
men who give full heed to sexual desire think about how their choices affect
women, but the fact is that it does. He hurt her, but his actions are far less
of a "problem to society" (or whatever) than a rapist, etc.In pegging everything on him, we not only are treating him as if he was a
rapist, forcing the choice out of her... but we also neglect her own choices.Do I defend any of their choices? No. But I do believe that
mis-directing blame (as those interested in blaming always do), only causes
harm. It helps no one.Teach him a lesson. Teach her one. Move on and
be happy. I believe that's productive here.
Neanderthal,only if she doesn't plan on coming to work again
@lost in DC:"perhaps his position as her immediate supervisor gave him
undue influence over her."If they are both on the job I can see
that there might be a problem...But, can't the girl just not
answer the text? And, for sure not send a sext or even a mundane text. Sexting
is a two-way street, seems to me.
know, live, loveperhaps his position as her immediate supervisor gave him
undue influence over her. She is not entirely without fault, as you suggest,
but the bulk of the blame has to remain with him.
@mattrick78:"... isn't there at one point a thought that crosses
your mind that says, 'I could get arrested for this' before you click
SEND?"How anyone can be arrested for carrying on a conversation
with another person boggles the mind... regardless of the conversation content.
I thought everyone was guaranteed 'freedom of speech' under our
Constitution's First Amendment.I know the Bible says: 'let
your conversations be yea, yea; nay, nay' (Matt 5:37)...' but there
was no punishment for additional verbiage.And supposing it was two
teens sexting... would that be illegal?"Frankly, I just
don't get it!"Neither do I.
Utah law allows consensual sex for 16 and 17 year olds with individuals who are
no more than 10 years their senior. He misses it by a year.For me,
the greater concern is the power differential between the two since he was her
supervisor.I had a job when I was a hormonal 16 year old - and there
were some attractive older men that worked there. Having them in positions of
power just made them more attractive. Consensual doesn't mean
right and he, being the adult and the supervisor, should have known better.
I agree with previous post that sex is a very normal urge at this age and a
normal part of life. That said, i personally would never text pictues of myself
where i appear hardly clothed.No matter what, sex is a very hot
topic and i dont know wgat can be done so that it is turned into something
healthy, stable and safe.How can this normal urge be satisified in a
healthy way that anyone's health, emotional stability is not compromised or
any abuse is perpetrated is something i am not sure we have a solution for ?In all cases, it should be safe and consensual between adults, a minimum
i am sure we all agree on.
a 27 year old should know better.
I haven't the slightest inclination to "sext" anyone overage let
alone underage. But to those who do, isn't there at one point a thought
that crosses your mind that says, "I could get arrested for this" before
you click SEND?Frankly, I just don't get it!
She is of course a victim, but my concern is that we should not be
dis-acknowledging her ability to choose. 16 year old girls, while easily
targeted by predators, are also very capable of making smarter decisions than
sexting. Teenagers still choose the activities they participate in. She
didn't take pictures of herself by his forceful hand.My only
concern here is that by pretending they don't somehow have agency, we put
them at greater risk and deny them proper responsibility and accountability for
their own actions. As much as I believe that we should remind adult males to
stay away from minors, we should also be educating minors on how to protect
themselves. You can't do that by pretending their always innocent and
perfect. Every teenager thinks about sex at some point, and anyone with any
sense will recognize that they think about it a lot (as most do at that age).Assume their either sexting, have before, or have at least been tempted
to. Then teach them the danger is very real and very close to home. Teach them
to save themselves for marriage, and to avoid such situations completely.
"West Jordan Police Sgt. Dan Roberts said detectives believe the texting,
though illegal, was consensual between the two." My understanding is
that a minor is not emotionally capable of giving consent, especially to a
person in a position of authority, which means it is not possible for this type
of activity to be consensual on her part. Ever. Sgt. Roberts mis-spoke to
suggest that. I think what he meant was that the minor was not aware her
emotional immaturity was being taken advantage of. She didn't
"feel" that she was being used. Yet. I am glad her parents caught on and
put a stop to it.
I can only hope that the courts will convince Kofoed that there is no such thing
as consensual when it involves a 16-year-old.