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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 6 2013 4:45 p.m. MDT

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Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Twin Lights,

"....I feel kinship to the Christ of the New Testament in the revelations of Joseph. It not another gospel than Paul’s. It is another than Martin Luther’s...."
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The ‘other gospel’ excerpt from Paul is cited to indict Mormon belief as a gospel other than the correct one. Read in the entire context of Galatians 1, it becomes clear that Paul is continuing his war with Jewish followers of Jesus who refuted Paul’s ideas. Paul accuses them of perverting the gospel of Christ among the Galatians. What we’re reading about here is evidence of the widening rift between Judean followers of Jesus and the rising Gentile Church.

Paul elaborates by saying “the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.”

That unequivocally serves notice on the Jerusalem church that Paul felt no need to defer to those who knew Jesus when he was alive. Early Christianity was obviously not one great big happy family.

donn
layton, UT

@Twin Lights, The Trinity in the O.T. ,Let us make man in ‘Our Image’ image and likeness …”(Gen 1:26)“So God created man in His “OWN(spiritual) Image” male and female…(Gen 1:27) If there were more than one God it would read in “their image.”

Mt 28:19 NIV, “Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit”. 3 persons, but one name, one God.

Baptism signifies an eternal consecration of the person to the service and honor of that Being in whose Name it is administered; but this consecration can never be made to a creature; therefore the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, are not creatures. i.e..,

God said unto Moses,” I am HE *WHO IS=“(the BEING): and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, HE *WHO IS hath sent me unto you. (LXX Ex 3:14).

*WHO IS=( The one Being)occurs in Rev 1:4, 8; 4:8, 11:17; and 16:5. 1of2

zoar63
Mesa, AZ

Donn,

The king James Bible says God created man in his own image. I see no (spiritual) in that passage.

The old testament also teaches God has body parts; back parts and feet and describes seventy witnesses seeing The God of Israel and mentioning a golden pavement under those feet. That is a far cry from an incorporeal God allegedly described in the New Testament (Ex 24:9-11) (Ex 33:21-23)

If God came down and became flesh then who is this Father that Christ is praying to? (John 17:3-5)

The resurrected Christ told his disciples that he was not a spirit he possessed flesh and bones. (Luke 24:39)

Christ declared he was equal to God and was in the form of God (Philip 2:6) So if Christ has a body of flesh and bones and is in the form of God one must conclude that God also has a tangible body.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. (John 1:18)

That seems to contradict the Exodus accounts.

donn
layton, UT

RE: zoar63,Lectures on Faith, Q. What is the Father? A. He is a personage of glory and of power. (5:2.). What is the son? First, he is a personage of tabernacle.

I.e. it is I myself: handle me, and see; for “a spirit” hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have (Luke 24:39). God[the father] is “a spirit”…(John 4:24)

No one has ever seen God. ‘The only one(monogenes Greek,3439), himself God’, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God [known].(John 1:18 NET)

Context,. (Phil 2:6-7 NIV ) “Who being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant being made in human likeness.

(Ex 33:21-23) “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”(Exodus 33:20 NIV)

Moses was with our ancestors, the assembly of God's people in the wilderness, when the angel spoke to him at Mount Sinai.(Acts 7:38 NLT)

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