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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 6 2013 12:55 p.m. MDT

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Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"TCU went 35-3 and they beat more ranked teams than BYU did over those 7 years, yet they never came close to a national title.

The only reason your team won a title is because teams around BYU beat each other. That's not an accomplishment, that's called winning by default."

OR as I said before, the reason BYU won the national championship while others didn't is because BYU, unlike the others, proved that they were the best team that year. You cannot dispute that! You might say Washington or Nebraska were the best, but they didn't want to play BYU (afraid they would lose? hmmmmm), so they forfeited their chance to prove it. Besides, didn't BYU play Washington the very next season? How did that go?

If you're mad at anyone for BYU's national championship, get mad at Washington or Nebraska. BYU would most likely have beaten them, too (after all, the polls give the vote for #1 to the team they think is #1 in the country, hence the term "ranking").

Gilbert, AZ


"Boise State another WAC team in different era:..."

A WAC conference composed of an entirely different set of core teams.

The only thing similar about the WAC conference BYU played in in 1984 and the WAC conference Boise State played in during the 2000's is the name.

Neither TCU nor Boise State ever had the run of FIVE of six Top 12 finishes culminating in an undefeated season like BYU did from 1979 to 1984.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA


Although every season is judged on it's own merits, it's important to remember that previous track record is considered by the poll voters in determining which teams are contenders and which teams are only flash-in-the-pan pretenders.

It's also important to remember that it's impossible to compare a team's performance during one season versus how that performance would have been judged versus another season, since the circumstances surrounding each season are entirely different.

An undefeated season may be the minimum standard for winning a national championship one season, whereas, a one- or two-loss season may be good enough to win the national championship in another season.

Just because TCU's and Boise State's best seasons were overshadowed by the performances of other teams during those same seasons, doesn't mean BYU's 1984 performance wasn't worthy of a national championship.

Sandy, UT

Hysterical Ute fans are still anxious over BYU's "Unanimous National Championship".... "THIRTY YEARS AGO"?

On an article about helmet Logo's?

Absolutely Hilarious!

Salt Lake City, UT

To all Ute Posters:

The reason BYU won the consensus National Championship in 1984, from people who are not biased one way or the other for BYU or Utah, had as much (if not more) to do with what they did in 1983 as what they did in 1984. After losing the first game of the season to Baylor on the road they won 11 straight games including ROAD games against Pac 10 and Rose Bowl Champion UCLA #17 and Air Force #13. They also beat a Missouri team in the Holiday bowl that was ranked in the top 20 at that time.

If Utah had similar success in 2007 before the 2008 season I personally believe they would have built up enough momentum to potentially play for the National Championship in 2008. This may be hard to believe but BYU fans did NOT cast the votes in the 5 polls at the end of the 1984 season.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

BYU Followers,

As much as I would love to continue this interesting debate, my prevous factual comment was denied and I have no earthly idea why. We can agree to disagree. BYU will never sniff another NC in the current format; and Utah probably won't either for that matter.

Highland, UT

@spokane ute

"BYU will never sniff another NC in the current format; and Utah probably won't either for that matter."

That is actually the first "factual" comment you have made. The rest were angst ridden jealousy. But of course regardless of whether BYU will evern "sniff ANOTHER NC in the current format" or not they still have one, it is legit and real despite your 2 day effort to try and rationalize it away, it exists, and it isn't going to change.

utah on the otherhand, they'll never get even one.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

That would make Yale #3, right?

Seriously, The U's better than Wazzu's, UW's UAz, Ucla's at the minimum.

I personally think AZ State's is pretty cool.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

to CougFaninTX...

Originality in Provo? Surely, you jest!?

Alpine, UT

Mister J

"Originality in Provo? Surely, you jest!?"

You obviously haven't heard of BYU's Center for Animation which just won its 12th Emmy in 10 years.


On article topic: I have always thought WSU's logo was creative and clever, if not particularly eye-grabbing.

On comment-board topic: Alabama never would have won the NC last year without others around them losing in the final weeks. LSU never would have won the NC a few years ago without others around them losing. In most years an undefeated BYU (or 2004/2008 Utah or Boise or TCU) would not have the opportunity to play for/win an NC because other undefeated teams would be "more deserving". As any non-BCS fan knows, this is the way it works.

If Boise had gone undefeated either of the past two years, they may have gotten a chance. If more teams around them had lost, the 2008 Utah team may have gotten a chance. If fewer teams around them had lost, 1984 BYU may not have their NC. Different years, different scenarios.

HOWEVER... The fact that BYU was a unanimous champ by all voting organizations means that a significant majority of the voters that season thought they were the best. Call it backdooring or call it deserving based on past success or call it undeserving-it is what it is.

Springville, UT

Nobody wants you in their league. But hey, you've got a great logo.

Anaheim, CA


Not entirely true; the Big 12 wanted BYU if BYU had been willing to play on Sunday. Some things are simply more important than a conference affiliation.

pocatello, ID


People flipping thru TV channels will run across ESPN2 or whatever and see the "Y" logo lose against another ranked team.
That's what will remind them of BYU.

Beck to Harline
Provo, UT

Am I the only one amused by this fascinating Ute fan logic---BYU's small margins of victory in '84 make them a weak team. Simultaneously, Utah's plethora of last-second-play victories over BYU in recent history (these wins go both ways, hence the best rivalry year in-year out in the nation in my opinion (I'm extremely biased)) are not even mentioned (by Ute fans) to be extremely close games, that clearly could have gone either way. Be universal with your logic Ute fans. Discounting BYU's close wins while promoting Utah's close wins is hypocritical at the core.

As far as the article goes- don't get all up in a fuss about this guys opinion...the W for BYU and the L for Utah in this one don't actually go on the real schedule/count towards BCS rankings/matter at all. Treat it as such.

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