Published: Monday, Aug. 5 2013 2:28 p.m. MDT
procuradorfiscal:If the British system was broken twenty years ago
why is it still alive and well today. In fact based on my personal experience
it is very good. In fact they get more service at lesser cost than we do. I
challenge anyone to prove otherwise. Furthermore no modern country has tried a
system involving "single payer funding" and then changed back. You
comment about a "failed" system. We are there...many of our citizens
have little access to healthcare so what is your solution
Truthseeker,We've visited this concept many times before. The
clause that you misquoted is part of a single sentence that comprises Article 1,
Section 8, and it refers only to that single sentence, just as all dependent
clauses require the context of the sentence in which they are found before they
have basis. The preceding seventeen clauses listed (enumerated) the
duties that we, the people, had delegated to Congress to provide. The
eigtheenth clause gave Congress the authority to tax us for the
"foregoing" powers in those preceding seventeen clauses that we
delegated to Congress. You must never take that clause out of
context to imply something that if false when taken out of context.
Re: "If the British system was broken twenty years ago why is it still alive
and well today[?]"It isn't. It's dead. And it
stinks.It does not, cannot, meet the needs of the British public.
There's just too little care for too many people. But, since there's
no legal or affordable alternative, British patients keep queuing up, in the
hope of winning the health care lottery -- that is, finding the way to beg,
wheedle, and cajole enough health care from the government monopoly to actually
get well.Get used to it. That's where we're headed.
procuradorfiscal:You are making this more fun than I thought. You
say "British patients keep queuing up, in the hope of winning the health
care lottery. Maybe we should find that same que. After all the Brits outlive
us by about 3 to 4 years. Other statistics include the fact the Brits have
lower mortality birth rates. Speaking of queing up I spend more time on the
phone with insurance companines trying to get them to pay bills. The experience
I had with my family in England was the total opposite of what you describe.
So, does the senator have any plan for health care other than opposing anything
with any connection to government? After all, there are 30 or 40 million people
with no plan at all. Wouldn't it be great if we had a clue of what Lee is
FOR - besides keeping his donors happy?
RE Mike RichardsThey compel me to own auto insurance. The compel me
to det a drivers license. Die hard republicans are compelling people (mostly
minorities) to get voter ID cards. The compel us to register for the draft.
Etc...Mike, the government compels us to do lots of things. I guess
the good and bad of it depends upon your personal views. But you can't
have it both ways. You posted earlier on another story the government should
require voter id's to prevent fraud?You confuse me?
Senator Lee is an interesting politician. He's relatively safe in his
approach because of how Utah votes. He knows that saying "no" to
everything is easier than saying "yes" to something. He knows that
having "no" record in Utah is better than having voted "yes" and
having that "yes" vote somehow used against him.Smart guy...
Horrible person to represent the people in the government, but certainly a smart
How ironic. Obama has shown total disregard and expresses his disrespect for the
law he created. The law has passed and yet he changes it without regard for
obeying it. He extends the provision requiring a specific implementation date
of parts of the AHC. He has no authority without congressional passage to change
or refuse to enforce any law.. He has shown total disregard of our legal system
and feels he is the "supreme decision maker" of this great country. He
is repeatedly avoiding the due process required by the constitution which he
obviously deplores. All as predicted for his second term. AHC is just one of
many examples. We all need to seriously consider the future consequences of his
actions and each do our part to prevent further destruction of history's
greatest country and government. Let your voices be heard!
Thousands of Canadians come to this country for medical care which is
unavailable to them due to the socialized medical care of that country. Not
enough doctors. They abandoned seeking that profession years ago due to
socialized process. We had a neighbor there who needed a serious heart procedure
who was told it would be two months before they could get to him. He nearly died
before that took place. Believe that? Ask a Canadian. AHC magnifies that type of
a system. Read the bill. No one else has. The author of the bill calls it a
train wreck about to happen.
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