steeleuteNo the real question is will Utah ever accomplish ANYTHING
meaningful on a national scale in any era, like say, winning a national
championship, winning a Heisman Trophy, winning a national individual award,
having a player selected to the national college football hall of fame, or even
reach double digits in AP Top 25 rankings sometime during their first century
and a half of football.Utah's trophy closet is completely
bereft of any national individual or team trophies.
Max-was-right:No, the real question is will BYU ever accomplish
something meaningful during the BCS era like, oh I don't know, actually go
to a BCS bowl game?
Uteology"When Utah wins our opponent moves down:..."In 2011, when Utah won the Sun Bowl, not only did Utah's opponent
Ga Tech move down, so did Utah.2011 Pre-Bowl Sagarin Rankings#41 BYU versus #31 Tulsa#38 Utah versus #45 Ga Tech2011
Final Sagarin Rankings#34 BYU, #35 Tulsa#39 Utah, #56 Ga TechWhile Tulsa barely dropped after losing to BYU in the Armed Forces Bowl,
the teams in the Sun Bowl were so pathetic, that not only did the loser plummet
11 places, the winner also dropped a place, leaving the loser of the Armed
Forces Bowl ranked higher than the winner of the Sun Bowl.Another
one of those much talked about "impressive" bowl wins for the Utes. LOL!
UteologyNice try, but none of your weak arguments explain how BYU
can LOSE a bowl game and still be ranked, while Utah, even with a bowl win,
still isn't good enough to be ranked.The final AP/Coaches
Rankings say it all:BYU2011 ur/#252009 #12/#12 2008 #25/#21 2007 #14/#15 2006 #16/#15 2001 #25/#24 1996 #5/#5 1994 #18/#10 1991 #23/#23 1990 #22/#17 1989
#22/#18 1985 #16/#17 1984 #1/#1 1983 #7/#7 1981 #13/#11
1980 #12/#11 1979 #13/#12 1977 #20/#16 Utah2010 ur/#232009 #18/#18 2008 #2/#4 2004 #4/#5 2003
#21/#21 1994 #10/#8 1964 ur/#14of the 1053 AP Polls to
date:BYU has been ranked in 22%: 11 times (Preseason), 17 times
(Final), 236 Weeks (Total)Utah has been ranked in 7%: 2 times (Preseason),
5 times (Final), 77 Weeks (Total)Spin it however helps U sleep at
night, but if the Utes and their bowl opponents had really been any good, they
would have been ranked in the final polls.The final rankings are the
final word.Live with it!
Snack Pac- spin it all you want. Results don't lie. BYU have a losing
record in bowl games. I love BYU but it is what it is. Deal with it. Get to
.500 and then talk.
@Snack PAC. As I posted before there is no question that Utah has
dominated in the BCS era:Utah is 10-1 (91%) vs BYU 6-5 (55%)36% of Utah’s bowl opponents were ranked in the AP top 25 and 55%
in the AP top 3027% of BYU’s bowl opponents were ranked in the
AP top 25 and 36% in the AP top 30 (55% in top 35)The difference,
BYU loses so your opponent moves up in rankings:2001: BYU 10 Louisville 28
(AP #23 - Final #17)2005: BYU 28 Cal 35 (#31 - #25)When Utah
wins our opponent moves down:2003: Utah 17 Southern Miss 0 (AP #28 - Final
#42)2004: Utah 35 Pitt 7 (#19 - #25)2005: Utah 38 GTech 10 (#24 -
WACpaddledBYU eager to win their 5th straight bowl.Utah
eager to play in their 2nd straight couch potato bowl.
Pac-12 preview: Utah Utes eager to go bowling again’________Independent preview: BYU eager to play in the Kraft Fight
Hunger or whatever bowl again.
This Ute/BYU pre-rivalry game posturing and chest-beating is going to get
unbearable during the two-year hiatus.
Can't wait for August 29th! I am tired of playing the posting game for
entertainment, I want football action!!Go Utes!Cougs and
thebigsamoan: always enjoy your contributions. Your views are not driven by a
hatred or by a desire for failure and I respect that. You represent your team
Why did the DN use a pic from last season's Utah-USC game to accompany this
story instead of pic from Utah's last bowl game?
wwookie"A team that wins their bowl game will obviously be
ranked higher, hence the reason why a few of the cougars opponents ended up
getting votes in the final polls."So why have only a handful of
Utah's bowl-winning been ranked?And, how have so many of
BYU's bowl-losing teams been ranked?The truth is, NOBODY is
impressed with Utah's bowl winning percentage except U. Utah's win
over #56 Ga Tech is a perfect example. Utah actually DROPPED in the final
Sagarin rankings after beating Ga Tech in the Sun Bowl.Spin that
with your "logic".
Utah doesn't go to bowl games anymore.
wwookieNice spin, but you're not deceiving anybody but
yourself.The serious flaw in your logic is that most of BYU's
ranked bowl opponent were ranked high enough that, like BYU, they still would
have been ranked in the final poll even with a bowl loss.Utah
didn't become a regular bowl participant until the proliferation of bowls
began in the early 90's, and even then, the Utes were usually a 3rd- or
4th-place team from the WAC or MWC, meaning, of course, that most of Utah's
bowl opponents were just as mediocre as the Utes.While BYU was
playing Top 25 conference champions and 9- and 10-win teams from major
conferences, the Utes were playing 6-, 7-, and 8-win conference also rans from
mid-major conferences and 5th- and 6th-place teams from major conferences.Bottom line, win or lose, 16 of BYU's bowl teams were good enough
to be ranked in the Final AP poll, while, win or lose, only 5 of Utah's
bowl teams were good enough to be ranked.Obviously, mediocre Utah
teams beating up on other mediocre teams in a bowl didn't fool anybody
except the kids on the hill.
Coach Whittingham is to be commended for giving his players plenty of down time
in December to study for finals.
@snack pacYour logic has a serious flaw. A team that wins their bowl
game will obviously be ranked higher, hence the reason why a few of the cougars
opponents ended up getting votes in the final polls. Utah has the best bowl
winning percentage and so their bowl game opponents end with a loss and are
bumped down in the polls. It was a nice try to deceive those that
don't pay attention.
Of course the utes can go bowling!There are plenty of bowling alleys
ARE YOU KIDDING?Utah has no chance for a bowl game this
season...have you looked at the schedule.This has to be a rebuilding
year where 5-7 will be a huge step in the right direction.PAC-12 is
loaded this year so IT'S best TO set sights on 2014 when realistically the
schedule will improve. Taking state will be a miracle but anything better would
be a pipe dream.
When will Utah beat a Pac opponent with a winning record? Gotta start there
first before U go bowling. Just saying.
Love skiingbeeeep!Try again.While BYU and
Utah have both won 13 bowl games, the real difference between BYU and Utah in
bowl game performance is16 of BYU's 31 bowl opponents (52%)
have been ranked in both polls, including 8 in the Top 15, and 4 in the Top
10only 4 of Utah's 17 bowl opponents (24%) have been ranked in
both polls, including 3 in the Top 15, and only 2 in the Top 10.The
real question is, how many of Utah's bowl teams, win or lose, have been
good enough to be ranked in the Final AP Poll?AP Ranked Bowl
TeamsBYU 16 (BYU had one ranked team that didn't play in a Fiesta
Bowl played on a Sunday)Utah 5
When will the UofU hold a memorial for Gaius Vaenuku?
"Will the Utes ever go bowling again" Yes they will. The real question
is, when will the cougars have a winning bowl record. What's the point of
the bowling smack when your team have a losing records in bowl games. Go Utes.
Cougsanddaugs,"I love to rib, joke, and make jabs at Utah as a
Cougar fan, but I sincerely do hope that the utes can turn it around and have
some success." I'm with you 100% on that except I
don't joke, rib, or make jab at the Utes or disrespect them in any way. I
do sometimes try and respond to a lot of the hate from some of their fans in
which a few of my comments never made the cut. There's nothing more I
would love to see than Utah to tear up their conference and win the Rose Bowl
someday. But I will also root against them only when they play BYU. Go Cougs beat Utah! And good luck to the Utes too after we beat them. How
sweet that would be!
@Max-was-rightWill the Cougars ever beat Utah again is the question!!!
Max-was-right"Will the Utes ever going bowling again is the
question!!!"Considering Utah has already been bowling one out of
the two years they've played in the Pac 12 I think it's pretty safe to
say they'll be going to more bowl games in the future.____Question, are there any BYU fans out there that cringe when their cougar
brothers continue to go to the bowl conversation despite the fact that it was
the only year in the last ten that Utah hasn't been to one? It just comes
across as extremely desperate if you ask me. There's gotta be something
better coug fans can use to shake up Ute fans, this one just makes us laugh.
Will the Utes ever going bowling again is the question!!!
A four year void in a healthy, quality QB and three different Offensive
Coordinators in three years has contributed greatly to Utah's slow start in
the PAC 12. No one should underestimate the effect Dennis Erickson will have on
the offense. Healthy, quality QB's and a deeper bench under DE's
offensive leadership will now have the Utes on their way. Will they be in the
Rose Bowl this year? Of course not. However, those jealous folks with their
snide comments about Arizona and Maryland will be disappointed in the coming
years. Here comes four in a row; Go Utes!
Hopefully it happens, and Utah can start getting more respect in the PAC12 and
represent the state. I love to rib, joke, and make jabs at Utah as a Cougar fan,
but I sincerely do hope that the utes can turn it around and have some success.
Good luck in what will easily be the toughest year for the U.