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Published: Sunday, Aug. 4 2013 5:00 a.m. MDT

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Wastintime
Los Angeles, CA

Regarding DNA evidence, the noose is tightening quickly. Native American genetic data has allowed scientists to account for ALL of the mtDNA Y-chromosome types in current Native Americans and trace the founding population back to individuals who migrated across the Bering Strait between 15-20k years ago.

It is amusing to have witnessed the retreat of we Mormons from calling all Native Americans "Laminites" (as we did when I was growing up in SLC) to now having altered our printed materials and arguments to the fall back position that it can't be disproved that a few Jews may have once migrated here.

But more importantly, what of my question regarding the millions of Muslim and other religious people in the world who have prayed sincerely and received confirmation that their religions are true? Why are we right and all of them wrong?

kvnsmnsn
Springville, UT

Wastintime posted:

=But more importantly, what of my question regarding the millions of Muslim and
=other religious people in the world who have prayed sincerely and received
=confirmation that their religions are true? Why are we right and all of them
=wrong?

My point is that if there is a good God who controls the universe and can answer prayer, and if one single person is willing to base the rest of that person's entire life on the answer that person gets from God, and asks God a question, that God will give that person an answer. Are you saying that "millions of Muslim and other religious people in the world" have gotten to the point where they are ready to base the whole rest of their lives on whatever answer God gives them, and then have asked God a question? If so, why do you think so?

zoar63
Mesa, AZ

@sharrona

"Your voice will sound like a spirit speaking from the underworld; from the dust you will chirp as if muttering an Incantation(Is 29:4 NET)"

I do not give too much credence to the NET version of the Bible It follows the Alexandrian Greek of Westcott and Hort and apparently it is causing a lot of controversy among some Christian believers who denounce it as perverting the scriptures. They even go so far to say that all modern versions are based on the works of Westcott and Hort and admonish true believing Christians to not use any modern versions including the Jehovah's Witness', New World Translation

Now concerning the King James Version there are two kinds of manuscripts Accurate Copies They are the majority of Greek manuscripts which agree with each other and have been accepted by Bible believing Christians down through the centuries. It is from these manuscripts that the King James Bible was translated in 1611.

Corrupted Copies: These manuscripts, many times, do not even agree with each other. These are the manuscripts on which Westcott and Hort and the modern versions rely so heavily

Wastintime
Los Angeles, CA

"Are you saying that "millions of Muslim and other religious people in the world" have gotten to the point where they are ready to base the whole rest of their lives on whatever answer God gives them, and then have asked God a question? If so, why do you think so?"

Wastintime
Los Angeles, CA

"Are you saying that "millions of Muslim and other religious people in the world" have gotten to the point where they are ready to base the whole rest of their lives on whatever answer God gives them, and then have asked God a question? If so, why do you think so?"

Yes, I am absolutely saying that throughout history millions of people have been willing to base the rest of their lives on the answers that they received from God. Take Joan of Arc for instance. Was she wrong? It is beyond vain to assume that we are the only people who ever thought to ask God for an answer (and received an answer) I personally know people who feel strongly that they have received an answer regarding a different religion than ours. We see people sacrifice their lives for their beliefs constantly.

The Caravan Moves On
Enid, OK

I think the 3 greatest challenges Mormon had were:

1) Reading all the massive amounts of records, both secular and spiritual, often enough to be intimately familiar with what each of them discussed. That's a ton of reading to do, especially given his efforts as a military leader to help his people in their wars against their Lamanite enemies.

2) Being in tune with the Holy Spirit well enough to actually pick what records, histories and doctrines/sermons to include in the book he was compiling. If that were me, I'd be paranoid I'd not include something the Lord would want me to.

3) Writing/engraving all the characters that comprised his language onto plates of metal. How many tens of thousands of characters did it take? My hands get sore just thinking about it.

Many of you here don't believe as I do. Fine. That is your right.

However, to me, Mormon is a giant among men and a true hero. Like his son, Moroni said, someday you will meet Mormon yourself and the Savior will say, "Did I not declare unto you my words by this man?"

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: zoar63, See FAIRLDS article Familiar spirit. “The contemporary use of familiar is as an adjective, derived from the Latin familiaris.”?

"familiar spirit” (Is 29:4 Latin vulgate) and thy voice shall be from the earth like that of the “pythonis”, and out of the earth thy speech shall mutter. i.e..

Acts 16:16 And it came to pass , as we went to prayer a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination= (python,Greek #4436) met us which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying.

In Greek mythology the name of the Pythian serpent or dragon that dwelt in the region of Pytho at the foot of Parnassus in Phocis, and was said to have guarded the oracle at Delphi and been slain by Apollo. 2. a spirit of divination.

RE: FAIR quote NET, Use of "familiar spirit" in Isaiah, The New English Translation (NET) Bible translation renders this verse as "Your voice will sound like a spirit speaking from the underworld."
[ except they forget] “ from the dust you will chirp as if muttering an Incantation(Is 29:4 NET)"

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