I don't care what anybody says, Chucky Keeton is the best QB in Utah and
one of the best to play the position in this state for years.
Great so he is getting fake money for playing on a sub par team for less than
two years. Remember girls he was injured for the better part of his first year.
A fabulous qb and an even better person. As a byu fan, I'd kill to have
this guy running our offense.Go cougars!
That said, I'm excited to watch Chuckie again this year. He has been a
huge part of U-State's turnaround, and hopefully we can find someone from
the same mold to replace him when he graduates and moves on to the NFL.
It's great when the three major universities in the state have strong
football programs. A high tide raises all ships. I would much rather see Utah
State with an excellent team than not. In no way does that diminish BYU and
It's been a privilege watching chuckie quarterback USU. I wish him all the
best for this coming season and I hope he will be at his best when he plays
against my cougs. Go Cougs!
@Aggie238I was making a joke. Althogh it's true he hasn't
played his entire carrer because he was a fragile little freshman. Learn to
laugh at jokes.
Definitely the best QB in the state last year. He put up some incredible numbers
against some great competition. Hopefully he can have another great year.
Stang08Southern, UTA joke about a kid who got hurt - keepin it
I was just stating a fact for that one 54-10. He was a fragile little freshman
and couldn't stay on the field.
That's because no one in Cedar ever gets hurt. Chuckie probably
wouldn't have either if he was playing high school teams year after year
@The A GameNo one down in Cedar is invincible. And last I check no
high school teams ever came to SUU to play the Thunderbirds. Only quality
BigSky teams. Teams that given the chance would give your aggies are run for
You've got a good point. I tip my hat to the T birds for actually scoring
against the Aggies last year. Another 30 points and it would've been an
interesting game. They sure gave USU's third stringers a run for their
I'm pretty sure "Quality BigSky teams" is an oxymoron. So what if
Cal Poly beat Wyoming? Or Eastern Washington beat Idaho? Good FCS teams beating
bad FBS teams isn't impressive. If the SUU game was any
accurate indicator, I bet not one team from the BigSky last year would've
given the Ags a run for their money. NOT ONE.In fact, more often
than not, the BigSky gets torched by FBS competition. Let's not forget that
league went 6-87 against FBS competition in 2011.
One little comment and everyone losses their minds. Let's look at another
game The A Game. Cal who is much much better then USU let the Birds score 30
points on them before they got their heads in that game. So the loss to your
aggies woke my Birds up and prepared them for a real fight. Sambone just
because you had one great season doesn't mean you aren't at the same
level as UNLV, Wyoming, and Idaho. That was 2011. What about 2012? Or this
year? Both of you need to do some research and look at the world outside of
USU. And outside of your precious FBS ranking.
@Stang08Cal went 3-9 last year. How does that even begin to suggest
they are currently better than us? And considering their superior resources and
recruiting to USU, they have just about no excuse for doing as poorly as they
did. The fact that a "better" program allowed that many points from the
T-birds is laughable.UNLV has won exactly 6 games in the last THREE
YEARS. Wyoming has been incredibly inconsistent since Dave
Christensen became coach, and Idaho was tied for dead last as the worst FBS team
in the country with Colorado last year. Even before that, Idaho was on a huge
slide.I think it's entirely fair to say we're much better
(and in a much better position moving forward) than all of those programs.The BigSky only fared marginally better in 2012 against FBS competition.
I've done my homework. Have you? Sure doesn't look that
way. Look outside the world of SUU and your precious BigSky conference.
Stang,Cal hasn't done anything noteworthy since 2006. Even
when they won 8 games in 2011 it was mostly against FCS and sub-par FBS teams.
As Utah is finding out, being in the PAC does not make you a great team
automatically. Nobody in their right mind would today claim that Cal was better
than Utah State last year. Tooting your horn about how you made it close for a
couple of quarters in an early-season game against a bad team that won 3 games,
mainly against cupcakes, just makes you look worse. UNLV?
Seriously, I don't know why SUU fans even brag about that one. And that
was almost 3 years ago. It's only a step above beating your little
sister's powder puff team. Beating a team with 6 wins in 3 years against
the worst teams in the MWC? Not exactly something to brag about. Good for SUU,
but not impressive outside of Cedar. "That was 2011. What about
2012?" Actually, in 2011 we went 7-6. In 2012, we went 11-2, beating 3
teams who were ranked in the Top 25 during the season.
You have done no homework. I'm sorry I've been so ill-informed guys.
After one count em one winning season why don't we just give USU the
national title. After all they deserve it, they are clearly the best team in
the country even though they were ranked in the lower top 25 and couldn't
even get a sniff at a national title game. USU clearly rules the college
football world and I've learned my lesson.
I've done my homework, Stango. Deal with it. And if I haven't, then
how come you haven't refuted a single point I've made?"After one count em one winning season why don't we just give USU the
national title."The Aggies went 7-6 in 2011, so that's
back-to-back winning seasons. If you're going to insist on not allowing
that to count, then the T-birds' back-to-back 6-5 campaigns don't
count, either. So that's zero winning seasons for the T-birds.And none of us are talking about winning a national title. Simmer down.
What points have you made? None worth talking about. The 6-5 campaigns do in
fact count. Especially the one where we got a conference title. Well you
should be because after all USU deserves it as well as every individual trophy
and conference title there is. I firmly believe USU is the best school in the
The conversation always goes in circles when some unknown university's only
fan gets involved.But I gotta say, it NEVER gets old whipping said
fan into a frenzy! I hope Sorensen gets whipped tonight by the Seahawks. Former
Aggie greats versus the only good player in some unknown university's
history. Go Aggies!!
Get something straight. I'm not the only fan. Just the only fan that
comes foward here. And we are clearly far from unknown. The school that
Stockton's kid came from is unknown. No frenzy here Sambone you need to
know the difference between that and a passionate fan. Only good player? Matt
Cannon, Tysson Poots, Fesi Sitake, Decker Alexander just to name a few GREAT
players that donned Thunderbird red. And who are those "aggie greats"
I forget those names because they made no impact in the NFL. No impact worth
noting anyway. Yes you never heard of the players meantioned but what does that
mean? Nothing at all to us.
Stockton's kid? Meaning John Stockton? Meaning Gonzaga? Um...I'd
say Gonzaga is one of the MORE well known schools in college basketball. Anyone
who knows anything about college basketball knows about Gonzaga. No one knows
about SUU.Merlin Olsen ring a bell? Fearsome Foursome? He's
still considered one of the best defensive tackles to ever play the game. If
that's not worth noting, then you need to throw out Peyton Manning, Steve
Young, Jerry Rice, and a bunch of others as no-account JV players. Utah State
currently has 13 players on NFL rosters. SUU has four, only one of whom has
actually played a down.
@Aggie238You never miss a chance do you? Didn't he go to
Westminster? That's what I was talking about. But you are right. You are
wrong. you clearly know about SUU. But then again you are a no one so maybe you
are right. Yeah but really who remembers the Merlin Olsen era? Peyton Manning,
Steve Young, Jerry Rice weren't aggies. Have those 13 players done
anything worth noting in their carrer's? What I mean is winning any
awards, helping their team get to or far in the playoffs, and more importantly
playing in and/or winning the Superbowl. No they have not. Not even close.
Just keep talking and I'll poke holes in your logic. Poke Poke Poke.
I only know about SUU because I am from Washington Co. and my parents went to
school there. I didn't even insinuate that those players were Aggies. I
drew a comparison, stating that if you were going to throw Merlin Olsen's
accomplishments out the window as "nothing noteworthy," then you'd
have to do the same for those players. Anyway, Olsen (DL) was 14-year
Pro-Bowler, All-American, and Outland Trophy winner. Lionel Aldridge (DL) was
an All-American, and finished with two SB rings (Green Bay). Jim Turner (PK)
held a pro-record for 34 field goals scored in a season, and has one SB ring (NY
Jets) and played in one other SB. Greg Kragen (DL) has three SB rings, and was
also a Pro-Bowler. Chris Cooley (TE) was a Pro-Bowler. Donald Penn (OT)
currently starts for Tampa and is a Pro-Bowler. Jarrett Bush (DB) plays for
Green Bay and made several key plays en route to GB's SB win. This is not
a complete list, but you're capable of navigating Wikipedia, I assume, for
further info. Pray tell, what have former SUU players accomplished in the NFL?
Then you should show some respect for us. You just made my point easier. They
weren't aggies so they were successful because they didn't have big
heads. The only aggie you meantioned was Olsen. Doesn't sound like he did
anything but making the pro bowl in the NFL. Poke Poke Poke. I'll tell
you when the season is over and we see how San Diego does. You have nothing to
say. No leg to stand on so just keep quiet. I'm sure your Thunderbird
alum parent's would be dissappointed in you.
Wow, Stango, just wow. Olsen, Aldridge, Turner, Kragen, Cooley,
Penn, and Bush are ALL AGGIES. There goes your argument. Poke Poke Poke.And you forgot the Seahawks. Bobby Wagner was runner-up defensive rookie
of the year last season, and they were a field goal away from playing in the NFC
championship. Poke Poke Poke.Aggie238 proved beyond a shadow of a
doubt he has a much stronger leg to stand on than you do.
Did they do anything? NO they did not. And it's no suprise the only aggie
name I knew on there was Olsen. Because the rest are just flash in the pan
players. Yeah yeah yeah a feild goal away and yet they lost and watched from
the sidelines. In your eye's but in the real world he does not. Wagner
lost out on his shot at the SuperBowl so he is just another player. Nothing
great just another player. Keep making my life easy.
Stango, if Aldridge, Turner, Bush, and Kragen having (multiple) super bowl rings
and pro-bowler statuses counts as nothing and they are "just other
players," your thinking is clearly warped. So I guess since Sorensen
doesn't have a super-bowl ring, he's done nothing (that's your
logic, FYI). Just because you haven't heard of those Aggies,
doesn't mean their accomplishments mean nothing. It just proves how little
you know about USU's past players. Quit being a poor sport and
give credit where credit is due: the Aggies have had many more players in the
NFL (and currently do) than the T-birds. That shouldn't be controversial or
offensive to anybody. And I'm not even trying to rub this in. It's
just a plain fact.Keep making my life easy.
Whenever Stang talks about the Aggies, I literally get chills. I just love it
when he shoots down every argument somebody brings up. Chuckie Keeton and the
Aggies are just one big fluke.
Stang, Apparently you don't ever watch the NFL (which is
ironic, since you seem to set that standard as the end-all-be-all of football).
To put it in a vernacular you'll perhaps understand better, since
you're in the thespian business from what I hear, getting an invitation to
a Pro-Bowl is very similar to winning a Tony Award. In other words, you
can't get to a Pro-Bowl by being a "flash in the pan." Let alone
multiple PBs and SB rings like many of these players have done. And if that
doesn't count in your estimation, then I have to agree with Sambone and
conclude that your thinking is clearly so warped by your hatred of anything
remotely Aggie related that you are not capable of normal, rational thought. In
that case, you really ought to go see a therapist and get some things cleared up
(I'm not even joking about that). You clearly have no idea what you're
talking about, and everyone but you knows it. Maybe you should quit before you
get any further behind.
It's no secret there are more Aggies then Thunderbirds. The aggies just
haven't done anything. Glad you see it that way The A Game. Last year was
a fluke. I'm not an avid NFL fan. But I know enough about the NFL to get
by. That is personal and you had no right to say that. In the words of my
father the pro bowl means nothing. Just a bunch of guys that won't get a
chance to play in the SuperBowl. Get out of your own head and know that there
are players in the NFL and elsewhere that aren't aggies. I don't need
help and that crossed the line. If you know me then yo should know what I do
If not, which none of you do then just shut up and don't bring anything
personal on this page. I'm a college fan not a big NFL fan. That's
the end of it.
"Get out of your own head and know that there are players in the NFL and
elsewhere that aren't aggies."Yeah I'm pretty sure
none of us have even come remotely close to making such an inane claim that only
Aggies are in the NFL or elsewhere. Sounds like that warped mind talking
again.If your logic says the Aggies have done nothing, than the
T-birds must not even exist in the first place! lolz
Stang,Dude, take a chill pill. I didn't say anything about you
that you haven't volunteered yourself either here or on the HJ boards (I
forget which). It's not like I posted your SSN.I don't
know anything about your dad, and I'm sure he's a great guy, but his
opinion on the Pro-Bowl is suspect. While the Pro-Bowl isn't watched as
much as the Super Bowl, it's still the NFL All-Star game, and it is a
pretty high honor to those who are selected to play in it. Most people
recognize that. Again, your thinking is obviously so skewed that you can't
bring yourself to admit that anything good ever comes out of Utah State. Most
other college sports fans would have no problem acknowledging that there are
plenty of Aggie players who have done some pretty impressive stuff in the NFL,
along with many other players from other schools. You need to get your issues
worked out, man. It's not healthy.
@SamboneOh we do exist. You just like ignoring it. Aggie238 You are getting personal and that's not ok. Should
I come to you for help with my non existent "issues"? The Pro Bolw is
just a game for guys who won't take a snap in the SuperBowl to play in.
And puff their chests saying "I made the Pro Bowl look at me please".