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Published: Thursday, Aug. 1 2013 6:15 p.m. MDT

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Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Oceanside, CA

Re: Y Dad Grad

"Not a bad idea (the stop part). However, the Utes keep beating you and you've had a ridiculously easy schedule."

Like I said, you got scoreboard. Barely. That and a bad case of bed sores, or the couch equivalent.

"I'd say that it's not 1984 any more, but you weren't that good then either. And the entire sports world confirmed that."

Explains why the entire sports world, except those living at the center of the universe up on the hill, crowned us National Champs then. And why the coaches think a team that had zero offense last year will still finish in the top 1/4. Where did they pick U to finish???

But hey, you got scoreboard. For now. And one brutal schedule.

Salt Lake City, UT

Long gone are the WAC and MWC days when either team might not even play any other ranked team in a year (except when Utah played BYU).

Independence and PAC 12 membership are great benefits to both programs. Congrats to both AD's for their vision.

Bountiful, UT

"Wouldn't it be awesome to have two or more Utah teams ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year?"

I agree and both BYU and Utah State are likely to do just that!

CO Ute

UofU91 - maybe you should re read the post. The basis of the comment was you can't compare results when the schedules vary so much. Utah plays 8 above average teams, BYU plays 5 above average teams and USU plays 3 above average teams based on the preseason reviews.

As noted by other posters, the Y has done a good job playing a very mediocre schedule and still been considered a top 40 team at the end of the year. Even by upgrading some games this year, they still have a very average SOS for 2013.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

CO Ute

"...the Y has done a good job playing a very mediocre schedule and still been considered a top 40 team at the end of the year."

But, BETTER than Utah.

Frankly, BYU's 2012 schedule (#63 SOS in Sagarin) wasn't much easier than Utah's (#41), and with five Top 25 opponents, versus only two for Utah, the upper half of BYU's schedule was much tougher. There was a much larger difference in final results and rankings, however, with BYU(8-5) finishing #26 and Utah(5-7) finishing #61 in the final rankings.

BYU has been a Top 30 team for most of the last 10 years.

During the Bronco/Kyle era, BYU has averaged a higher ranking and Utah has averaged a slightly tougher schedule. Unfortunately for U, they don't award trophies for SOS.

Rankings, however, are based on record versus SOS.

Average Sagarin Ranking and SOS

During the Independence/PAC era
BYU #30, #77 SOS
Utah #50, #45 SOS

Last 5 Years
BYU #30 ranking, #67 SOS
Utah #31 ranking, #54 SOS

Bronco/Kyle era
BYU #30, #68
Utah #37, #60

Last 10 Years
BYU #35, #54
Utah #32, #61

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

CO Ute

Interestingly, during Utah's best two years, 2004 and 2008, Utah's SOS was about the same as BYU's SOS was in 2012, below average.

2004 Utah #4 ranking, #67 SOS
2008 Utah #5 ranking, #56 SOS
2012 BYU #26 ranking, #63 SOS

Utah has never even come close to having a Top 20 SOS; it'll be interesting to see how U do.

Ute parents - me Cougar
Rathdrum, ID

Enough talk ....... Let's play ball.

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