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Published: Thursday, Aug. 1 2013 6:49 p.m. MDT

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Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

I do find preseason polls interesting but we all know that they are really not too meaningful. I hope all the Utah teams do surprisingly well this year! Wouldn't it be awesome to have two or more Utah teams ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year?

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

BYU should be ranked in the top 15 if not the top 10.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

It remains to be seen how many ranked teams BYU, Utah, and USU will actually face.

Last year at this time, everybody expected Utah to face a Top 10, possibly even a #1-ranked, USC, and BYU was scheduled to play unranked Utah State and San Jose State.

Preseason polls and SOS rankings are fun topics for discussion, but they're notoriously inaccurate.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

BYU and USU have a legitimate chance of being ranked, but I guess that Kralon is counting Weber State as a third Utah team with a chance of being ranked at the end of the year?

Atrix
Vancouver, WA

Oregon and Stanford are the only teams deserving Top 25 rankings. The others couldn't even win their bowl games against inferior teams. Come week ten we'll see who the real teams are. Coaches will always vote their conference teams and opponents in the top 25 to help inflate the conference strength and schedule.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

Brutal schedule. Several chances for Utah to prove itself. Gone are the days of 2 game schedules (TCU and BYU) .

@Vladhagen

BYU and USU have a legitimate chance of being spanked if Utah is a 7-5 team.

UteMiguel
Go Utes, CA

The more comments I read, the more I come around to the idea that utah should not play BYU. Even when Utah wins 3 straight over BYU, Cougar fans can't stop claiming that BYU is the better team. Based on pulling off a bowl victory over SDSU?

Bob A. Bohey
Marlborough, MA

There appears to be a strong probability that UT's team will suffer a majority of losses in their contests against the nationally ranked teams in this article. It's good though because the only way to improve programs is to play superior competition on a regular basis. They may never be able to recruit the talent it takes to be national contenders on a regular basis but their programs should benefit from playing nationally ranked teams.

wwookie
Payson, UT

Utah schedule is very exciting!

9 of their 12 teams received votes.

Number 3, 4, 21, 24, 25, 32, 35, 36, 42

Only Washington state, Colorado and weber state aren't listed. And the Washington state game will be exciting because of coach leach's air raid offense. So 10 games that any fan would be excited to watch.

Go utes!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

UteMiguel
Go Utes, CA

"The more comments I read, the more I come around to the idea that utah should not play BYU. Even when Utah wins 3 straight over BYU, Cougar fans can't stop claiming that BYU is the better team. Based on pulling off a bowl victory over SDSU?"

Waaaaah! Mom, they keep saying they're better than we are! Make em stop!

Waiting for Utah fans to unilaterally proclaim that two years ago, Colorado was obviously the superior team. In fact, answer me this. And I really don't know because it has to be a super sloooooow news day for the Cougars before I will go read something on the Utes side of the boards. When was the last time Colorado fans got on Ute articles to proclaim their undeniable superiority?

Look, you got scoreboard. Enjoy it for six weeks. But if head to head was the only thing that mattered, then Johnny Football would be a returning National Champ. As it is, all he has is this thing called a Heisman. Because those matter too.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

I hate that rankings come out so early. It allows bigger name schools an advantage by being high to begin with so they can stay high with a couple of early losses, while other programs have to fight and claw to 11-12 win seasons just to be ranked in the top 15. I think rankings shouldn't come out until the 8th or 9th week of the season. I know the BCS already does this but it's 2/3 human voter bias. NO polls until 8-9 weeks, when we can see who the best teams are, not predicate rankings on hype.

That said, I'm happy my Dawgs are #5, but I'm still trying to figure out why. I guess returning only 4 starters on defense, and missing your best WR are recipes for success? Anyway, cheers to all the Utah programs this yr. These schedules make it put up or shut up for all the big 3 programs. GO COUGS! And best of luck to the utes and aggies as well.

ImaCaMan
Oceanside, CA

Re: Y Dad Grad

"Waaaaah! Mom, they keep saying they're better than we are! Make em stop!"

Not a bad idea (the stop part). However, the Utes keep beating you and you've had a ridiculously easy schedule. I'd say that it's not 1984 any more, but you weren't that good then either. And the entire sports world confirmed that.

talkinsports
Gilbert, AZ

ImaCaMan

Talk about ridiculously easy schedules:

BYU faced FIVE Top 25 opponents in 2012, including one of the BCS championship game teams.

Utah only played TWO Top 25 opponents in 2012.

Average SOS can be deceiving.

Playing two opponents ranked #29 and #31 would give you an average SOS of #30.
Playing two opponents ranked #1 and #59 would give you an identical average SOS of #30.

If you were an FBS head coach, which schedule would you rather play if you absolutely had to win both games to save your job?

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

The utah fans crying about BYU claiming superiority over utah, are the same ones claiming BYU really didn't win a National Championship. Huh??

CO Ute
PARKER, CO

This post has nothing to do with which team is better, just a thought that you can't really compare results based on the schedule. USU has 2 top teams and a lot of below average teams on the schedule. Using the USA Today review (simply because the have ranked over 80 teams so far and provides a good reference), BYU will play 4 potential top 25 teams, GT should be between 30 and 40. USU are both rated around 60. Houston, Nevada, Virginia and MTSU are between 70 and 80. Idaho State isn't in the top 100. Basically, using the USA Today review, 5 good teams, 2 average strength teams, and 5 teams below average.

USU's schedule is less difficult than BYU's schedule which is less difficult than Utah's schedule.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

BYU has the toughest schedule and will still win the most games.

UoU 1991
Park City, UT

CO Ute

Summarizing:

An opponent that is ranked higher is considered to be a BETTER team than an opponent that is ranked lower?

A good team (Top 25) is BETTER than an average team which is BETTER than a below average team?

Thanks for clarifying that.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

I think I'm in love with Mildred!

Go Utes!

Aggie238
Logan, UT

Talkinsports,

You can play all the Top 25 teams you want, but you get no more respect than Savannah State if you don't beat them. In 2012, BYU beat exactly one of the five T25 teams it played (at home and by the skin of their teeth, I might add). Probably will have a similar outing this year. USU, on the other hand, also played five T25 teams in 2012, and beat 3 of them, two by large margins.

Co Ute, how do you figure USU to be "around 60?" The USA Today poll has them ranked at #35, just ahead of #36 BYU. Both teams will probably be about as good as they were last year, +/- a win or loss. Splitting hairs over whose schedule is better, especially between BYU and USU (I think we can all agree that Utah's schedule is pretty clearly tougher than either, unless some real head-scratchers occur), a full month before anyone even takes the field, is utterly pointless.

DeepBlue
Anaheim, CA

Aggie238

"BYU beat exactly one of the five T25 teams it played..."

BYU's one Top 25 win over #16 was still better than Utah State's one Top 25 win over #21.

"You can play all the Top 25 teams you want, but you get no more respect than Savannah State if you don't beat them."

Actually, BYU got a lot of respect by severely challenging Top 25 teams, losing to three of them on the road by a total of 10 points.

Proof of the respect BYU received can be found in the final Sagarin rankings:

USU(11-2) #19, SOS #97
BYU(8-5) #26, SOS #63

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