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  • Brimmer Wheatom, IL
    Aug. 12, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    Why do a few U fans read all the BYU articles to comment negatively? I don't get it. I wouldn't waste my time in such tedious pursuits. Read the Utah articles - make positive comments. Enjoy football, don't bury your light in such petty resentments.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 5:28 p.m.

    "Yes Riverton Cougie one off bad games happen I agree with you completley. However what I don't agree with you on along with everybody else in the nation but cougie fan's. Is 3 in a row, 4 of 5, 8 of 11 and 56-34 is not a fluke. That is domination proven over and over not just one fluke game. Had the utes just beat the Y once or hear and there I would agree with you however that's not the case!"

    So since Utah is clearly that much better than BYU, and since BYU has won a national championship, a Heisman trophy winner, and has had more than 15 seasons with 10 wins or more, that must mean that Utah has at least 2 national championships, 2 Heisman winners, and at least 30 seasons with 10 or more wins. I guess you are right: when it comes to comparing the two, BYU has nothing on Utah.

  • deseret pete robertson, Wy
    Aug. 5, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    One thing about all the smack talk -- it makes for an interesting anticipation to the coming season. I wish BYU and Utah success. But I hope BYU wins this year. -- should be fun to watch.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 4, 2013 9:44 p.m.

    Anae makes a huge difference in a positive way for the Cougars. That might not translate this year with all the changes and inexperience on the offensive side of the ball, but it makes me nervous as a Ute fan nonetheless.

    Anae is passionate about BYU and came back 'fully invested' despite being driven out of town a few years back. I understand expectations and all, but I was vocal to my Cougar friends that letting Anae go before was a curious decision in a negative way relative to BYU football and offensive production.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougie "That is a good point to bring up. I'm guessing that Utah fans won't say that Colorado is a better team than Utah (after all, Colorado is known to be one of the worst teams in FBS). So then, why did they lose? Did they have a bad game while Colorado had a good game? I'm guessing you would say yes, that that was the case. And if that is the case, why can it not be the case whenever BYU plays Utah? The last 3 years BYU has under-performed against Utah (true statement). Apparently it's ok for Utah to have a bad game, but nobody else."

    Yes Riverton Cougie one off bad games happen I agree with you completley. However what I don't agree with you on along with everybody else in the nation but cougie fan's. Is 3 in a row, 4 of 5, 8 of 11 and 56-34 is not a fluke. That is domination proven over and over not just one fluke game. Had the utes just beat the Y once or hear and there I would agree with you however that's not the case!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 5:19 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    BYU terrible?

    I've never said that...

    I do know that based on their losing record... BYU isn't on the same level as the big boys of college football...

    And also know that based on BYU's losing record... Utah is the better team.

    These are on-field results... outcomes that are not based on statistical analysis or voting polls...

    on the field... that's where it counts...

    But if you want to continue to claim that BYU is superior... even with it's losing record... then enjoy...

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Changing the subject?

    The article is about Anae... that's offense... and you want to talk about BYU's defensive stats from last year...

    The article is about BYU... And you want to make reference to Utah...

    You do get it right, however, that you have no excuse... no justification... and no response to explain BYU's losing record against the big boys of college foot ball...

    and at the end of the day that losing record defines BYU's place in the world of college football.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 3, 2013 12:49 p.m.

    Howard S, thanks for a textbook example of what trolls do.

    Wiscougarfan: "you claimed that BYU's defense would not be "better than average" this season."
    Howard S.: "I said I didn't know how you could expect a better than average defense...."

    Of course those two statements mean essentially the same thing, but rather than responding to rebuttal you bicker over semantics and then proceed to change the subject.

    Also, I have not responded to any of your subject-changing "lose against big boy" claims, because 1)there is no way to respond to that--it's true. BYU has not recently won against big-time opponents (either has Utah), 2) because I try to stay to the topic being discussed instead of simply attacking the opposing team fan base, and 3) because I have tried (in vain) to get you (and other trolls) to respond to actual claims being made. Once you start responding my claims I'll be happy to consider yours.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    "Oh, and Games are determined on the field... not in the Sagarin spreadsheets..."

    Rankings are the usual way of determining who the best teams in the nation are. For example, after the first 3 games, there will be many teams with a 3-0 record and many with a 2-1 record. How do you determine who the best team is? After 7 games there will be some teams with a 7-0 record, others with a 6-1 record, and so on. How do you know who is better?

    By the end of the season, how do you know the best team in the nation? Who should play in the championship game? In 2004 and 2008, I bet you would have said that Utah should play in the national championship game (judging by your best-team-always-wins philosophy). Were they really the best team? How do you know?

    I guess we don't need all these so-called experts when we have Howard. BYU is terrible because he says they are. Why don't you tell us your predictions for BYU's games and we'll see if you really know football like you say you do?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 10:01 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Actually nooooo...

    I said I didn't know how you could expect a better than average defense....

    Still not sure how last years defensive stats against soft competition suggests a better than average BYU defense in 2013...

    As for evidence... did I make up the fact fact that BYU has a losing record against the big boys of college football... and you have yet to explain how that fact bodes well against the toughest schedule BYU has ever faced.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 2, 2013 9:21 p.m.

    RE: Howard S.

    "Oh... and the statistical arguement from Wiscougarfan is just more silliness trying to validate BYU with something other than on-field results... BYU has a losing record against the big boys... Wiscougarfan can't dispute that so he wants to talk about defensive statistics."

    Actually, no. But it was cute seeing you try to talk for me. The actual reason I brought statistics into this discussion is because you claimed that BYU's defense would not be "better than average" this season (see your comments earlier in this thread). That is a silly claim, so rather than doing what trolls do (make stuff up), I used actual evidence to support my argument. You should try that sometime, it feels good (and makes you look less silly).

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    @ Howie: I will answer your questions about BYU's defense and offense. The answers are, Defense = Bronco. Offense = Anae.

    @ Naval Vet: Since when does attendance determine which team is the most important. Last time I heard Bronco and team members talking about which team was the most important, they indicated that the upcoming game was the most important - that the team should not look beyond that upcoming game, but play each game one at a time. Some games may be more intriguing than others, but each game is either a win or a loss, so in that sense, each is as important as the next.

    I am looking forward, first and foremost, to the Virginia game. After that the Texas game. And so forth. Some of you people, fans of the Utes and of the Cougars, are swatting at flies, with your juvenile remarks and bantering. How about after the game on Sep 21, we all find positive things to say about the great plays that are made during the game, and those players who stand out, whether they are Utes or Cougars, without saying hurtful things about the opposing team, coaches, fans, making it a positive experience for everyone.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 8:49 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    If Utah believed they were the better team in the 2011 loss... they stepped up in 2012 and proved it....

    Since 2010 BYU has had two chances to step up and prove that 2010 against Utah was a fluke. But they haven't.

    Now Cougar Nation makes the lame arguement that 2010 was a fluke... and 2011 was a fluke... and 2012 was a fluke...

    Cougars simply embarrass themselves by trying to claim they are the better team having lost three in a row...

    If the Cougars were really the better team they would win the games... But they can't...

    Just win the games... no excuses... then the Cougar Nation wouldn't be forced to make silly claims of superiority when they can't win the games.

    Oh, and Games are determined on the field... not in the Sagarin spreadsheets...

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    "So you've now resorted to asking the question and then answering for Utah fans in order to make your point?"

    Well, I've yet to read any comment from Ute fans suggesting that Colorado was better until Utah. Until now, that is:

    "Colorado won because they were better"

    Ok, so Colorado is better than Utah. Howard has said it. According to the Sagarin ratings, Colorado ranked at 107. So, since Colorado was better than Utah, where would that put Utah? This is the first time I've heard a Ute fan say this.

    "The manufactured excuse that the best team "underperformed" is silly... if you're the best team then win the game... period... No excuses."

    So, that means that it not only matters who you beat, but also who you lose to. Since Utah lost to one of the worst teams in college football, what does that make them?

    And finally, who was the better team in 2011: LSU or Alabama?

    Since the better team always wins.... period... LSU was clearly better because they beat Alabama. But... since the better team always wins... period... Alabama was clearly better than LSU because they beat them.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 4:58 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    "I'm guessing they would say yes?"
    *******

    So you've now resorted to asking the question and then answering for Utah fans in order to make your point?

    Colorado won because they were better... and then Utah followed up by beating them the very next year.

    Utah beats BYU because the Utes are better... And have been better three years straight...

    The manufactured excuse that the best team "underperformed" is silly... if you're the best team then win the game... period... No excuses.

    Oh... and the statistical arguement from Wiscougarfan is just more silliness trying to validate BYU with something other than on-field results... BYU has a losing record against the big boys... Wiscougarfan can't dispute that so he wants to talk about defensive statistics.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 2, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    "the same year Utah lost to Colorado they played in a bowl game (Sun Bowl) and kicked BYU to the curb (54-10) at BYU. Ouch! So if Utah is a bottom feeder and a joke of a program, what does that make BYU the dust under a bad program and a bad joke to boot?"

    That is a good point to bring up. I'm guessing that Utah fans won't say that Colorado is a better team than Utah (after all, Colorado is known to be one of the worst teams in FBS). So then, why did they lose? Did they have a bad game while Colorado had a good game? I'm guessing you would say yes, that that was the case. And if that is the case, why can it not be the case whenever BYU plays Utah? The last 3 years BYU has under-performed against Utah (true statement). Apparently it's ok for Utah to have a bad game, but nobody else.

    And Howard, saying Wiscougarfan "changed" the subject to statistics because he "lost" is so silly. It seems that you really need BYU to validate your own program.

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 2, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    Coming this fall: Robert Anae 2.0

    Coming this December: the firing of Robert Anae 2.0

    One can only wonder where Robert Anae 3.0 will resurrect...

  • Spider Rico Greeley, CO
    Aug. 2, 2013 11:25 a.m.

    too funny

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    @idablu

    Understandable that you would forget BJ...

    he's just undefeated against BYU as a player/coach... that's all..

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 1, 2013 3:59 p.m.

    Howie
    "Brian Johnson?

    Didn't the collective Cougar Nation mock incessantly the hiring of an inexperienced OC."

    Who's Brian Johnson?

  • Perkunas Ashburn, VA
    Aug. 1, 2013 3:46 p.m.

    Considering the tragedy affecting the Ute program this week and the many respectful condolences from BYU fans on another thread, I think it's beyond low for the usual suspects to come trolling on Cougar articles. Surely it's a moment for a truce.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 3:34 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Statistics is what we were talking about.... noooooo.....

    You talk about defensive statistics because its the only place that BYU shows favorably...

    You don't want to talk about BYU's losing record against big boy teams... and you don't want to talk about BYU's returning inexperience on the o-line players and coaching.... you don't want to talk about a RB coach with zero experience... and you can't explain how any of these things bode well for BYU's future...

    So you want to talk about other things...

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 2:47 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    Predicting the future?

    If you believe that past results are predictive of future outcomes then you must believe BYU will have a losing record against the BCS teams it will play this year... Right?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 1, 2013 2:42 p.m.

    RE: Howard S.

    "Changing the subject, are we?"

    Nice try. Obviously we're talking about the role of statistics in smack talk, which is why I used the examples that I did. I guess the obvious is hard to see when when you're lurking under a bridge (that's what trolls do, right?).

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    Howie:
    Statistics are the only way to gauge what could/should happen when it hasn't actually happened yet. Maybe you feel playing simulations on your PS3 is the way to go, or evaluating the experience of a RB coach who will not be calling plays or be any part of actual game management (though he does have All-WAC honors having played the position). If these coping skills bring some comfort in your hatred of BYU, have at it.

    As for what BYU does against the big boys, you're right, I wish they performed better. Maybe after Utah actually beats a big boy in their "power" conference you can come back and tell us all how it's done. Utah is a laughing stalk to the big boys as much as anyone but I guess you like playing the role of the pot? I will enjoy talking stats and wins/losses with you after the season, but you'll have to speak loud so I can hear you through the paper bag on your head.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Who said anything about PAC12 championships, recruiting rankings, the Utes dominance over BYU, or Alabama?

    Changing the subject, are we?

    You know you've lost the argument when your only response is to change the subject...

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 1, 2013 1:15 p.m.

    RE: Howard S.

    You sure are anti-statistics for someone who prides himself on being part of the "Conference of Champions" (a reputation gained by PAST NUMBER of championships), routing for a team that STATISTICALLY outranks BYU according to online recruiting services, and has beaten the Cougs 3 of 4, 8 of 11, statistic, etc. etc.

    Statistics are what all fans (yourself included) rely on for the off-season smack talk so don't pretend that only BYU fans are number crunching.

    "As for BYU offense this year... I don't know how they will do... and neither do you... and your statistics don't provide any predictive evidence one way or the other..."

    So do you disagree that Alabama should be ranked #1 (or even in the top 25) in the pre-season? After all, they're only placed so high because they won games in the past, get top recruits, and play a tough SOS (all predictive indicators).

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Offensive, defensive statistics or statistics of any kind are irrelevant and do not prove supremacy if you lose the game...

    If it gives you comfort that BYU compares statistically favorable while losing to the big boys... Then enjoy...

    But BYU loses when they play the big boys.. that is not made up... and statistics don't explain that fact away...

    As for BYU offense this year... I don't know how they will do... and neither do you... and your statistics don't provide any predictive evidence one way or the other...

    What I do know is that there are lots of offensive and defensive question marks for BYU this year and if any of those questions are not answered affirmatively... It could be a long, and eye opening, season for the Cougars...

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 1, 2013 11:05 a.m.

    RE: Howard S.

    "Cougars love statistical comparisons against the big boys because it's only in the statistics that they show well... On the field, where it counts, BYU has a losing record against the big boys... that is fact... Not supposition based on statistics."

    No, fan use statistics to back their claims while trolls make up whatever they want. I believe stats are quite compelling when you look at them in context. What you are discounting is how bad BYU's offense was last year. You have to take that under consideration when talking about the defense. BYU's recent losing record to good teams IS NOT because they have a sub-par defense.

    RE: the Phil Steele accusation. I truly apologize, I must have confused you with another BYU-hater. I should have done my homework and looked it up. However, I am curious... do you personally believe that BYU's offense this season will be worse than last season?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Cougars love statistical comparisons against the big boys because it's only in the statistics that they show well... On the field, where it counts, BYU has a losing record against the big boys... that is fact... Not supposition based on statistics.

    As the great Rick Majerus said... "Statistics conceal as much as they reveal"... In BYU's case statistics conceal that the Cougars have a losing record against the big boys... I know the truth can be hard to take... So Cougar fans bury their sorrows in the statistics.

    As for Phil Steele... I have NEVER referred to him as an objective and reliable source... try again.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:16 a.m.

    @K Tar perhaps you need to be reminded that the same year Utah lost to Colorado they played in a bowl game (Sun Bowl) and kicked BYU to the curb (54-10) at BYU. Ouch! So if Utah is a bottom feeder and a joke of a program, what does that make BYU the dust under a bad program and a bad joke to boot?

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    Howard S.

    Every coach has to start somewhere!! It may turn out bad or they just might be good at teaching the players what they need to know and do and get them to do it in games!!! Only time and the games this season will tell us which it will be!!! I am really looking forward to our game in Sept.

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

    P.S. Not every BYU fan got frantic and emotional about the BJ hiring!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:05 a.m.

    RE: Aggie238

    Thanks for the stats refresher course... never was one of my better subjects. Whatever the case my point stands, BYU's offense was average last season and most objective fans and analysts (and even most anti-BYU ones) predict it will be better this season.

  • Tuffy Parker Salem, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    It's very interesting to me that Howard undoubtedly knows more about BYU stats than anyone else posting... Interesting in the sense that someone would spend that much time and energy being the resident expert on a team for which he clearly has no love. Perhaps it's really an indication of the importance of the rivalry to him.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    RE: Howard S.

    Yes, as I've already posted BYU's DEFENSE would have done fine against Alabama's schedule, and there's actual evidence to back that claim. Against BYU's top five opponents last season (four of which were ranked) BYU's defense was still top twenty in most statistical categories. Of course BYU's top five opponents on average were better than the average Alabama opponent so logic would dictate that BYU would have done even better against Alabama's schedule than they did in the top half of their schedule. Sorry, but the truth can be hard to take.

    And you can snicker about my "almost everyone expects better offensive output" remark, but as YOU have noted a number of times, Phil Steele is an objective and reliable source. He has BYU's offense as significantly better (two all-americans) and BYU going 9-3. I'll take his opinion over a BYU hater any day. Go Cougs!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    KTar:

    "...please cite your source for your attendance records."

    My source for that comment was from my 2013 Phil Steele magazine. That publication offers a LOT of information, including Home and Road game attendances for all games. However, SoonerUte was correct that you may also find this information on ESPN's college football site. The way I navigate that site for this information is as follows:

    1. Click on the "Standings" icon at the top of the page.
    2. Select your team.
    3. Scroll down to your teams 2013 schedule. At the right of this schedule will be a box titled "2012 Team Leaders". Select a random player from your team.
    4. Select "Game Log".
    5. Select the score ("Result") of the game you want to check the attendance.
    6. Select "Box Score"
    7. Scroll all the way to the bottom, or type "CntlF attendance"

    If you don't have a Phil Steele magazine for the year in question, you'll have to follow the above instructions.

    Bottom line: You were wrong. Don't be so frantic and emotional next time.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:24 a.m.

    KTar requests "please cite your source for your attendance records."
    You might try ESPN, broadcast partner of everybody, really.

    Navigate to a team's schedule, select a past year, click on a game score, and that brings up the box score which has attendance at the bottom.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    @Reno Cougs Fan 68

    Brian Johnson?

    Didn't the collective Cougar Nation mock incessantly the hiring of an inexperienced OC.

    And yet now the Nation thinks an inexperienced o-line coached combined with an RB coach who has never coached at all is just fine.

  • maxiute Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    Robert Anae and "interesting" should never be used in the same sentence. "Intriguing" perhaps but not "interesting" :-)

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    @Wiscoug

    "one that ranked #58 in offensive yardage and #65 in points scored, which out of 124 would be middle of the pack, or 'average'"

    That's actually the "median," not the "average." An average would be the sum total PPG scored from all teams, divided by the total number of teams. The "average" offense in 2012 scored 29.092 PPG. BYU was very close at 28.7 PPG. The "average" offense in 2012 produced 405.791 YPG. Again, BYU was very close at 400.2 YPG. The "median" was actually #62 (offense) Western Michigan, with 439.3 YPG and 29.3 PPG. So yes, BYU was a very "average" offensive team, which would be expected since it's so close to the median. And Western Michigan was better.

  • KTar Boise, ID
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    @ Naval

    Although it wasn't stated, I was implying returning offensive starters. I'll try and be more clear for you next time.

    Also, I'd please cite your source for your attendance records. I haven't been able to find BYU or Utah's attendance for last year online. As much as I'd like to believe you, I'd like to see it for myself.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    KTar:

    "What are you talking about? Your utes lost more starters last year than we did."

    Not so my research-deficit, Indy-WACey little brother. According to Phil Steele, the Utes AND the Indy-WACers both return only 12 starters. Utah returns 6 players each on offense and defense. The "Band of Bunglers" return 8 players on offense and 4 on defense.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    Howard S.

    Does the name Brian Johnson ring a bell for you? Remind us how many coaching jobs he had to prepare him for being your OC? We will all soon see if our new coaches need someone to hold their hands and work with co- cordinators like BJ does!!! You may try to tear down my team but I am a fan and will cheer them on loud and proud this year as I have done every year since I can remember!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    KTar:

    "Don't act like BYU isn't the biggest game on your schedule. Actions speak louder than words, and if I remember correctly, U stormed the field, what was it, thee times last year? LOL!"

    Utah sold out every game at RES last season, yet the top attended game was USC. So despite all games SRO, nearly 400 MORE fans showed up to watch the Trojans than who came to see the Indy-WACers. So there you have it! Actions DO speak louder than words. USC is the biggest game on our schedule. We just didn't storm the field after the USC game because we lost.

    Do you know which was the highest attended game at LES over these past 2 seasons?

    Answer: The Utah game (2011).

    Actions speak louder than words. Clearly it is UTAH who is your "biggest game on YOUR schedule", and not the other way around. "LOL"!

  • KTar Boise, ID
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    @Howie
    "Did I say falling from 5th to 60th?"

    Yes:

    "Better than average defense? Average offense?

    I don't know how you can expect either... "

    Your words, not mine. If I can't expect a "better than average" defense, that means that BYU's defense will rank right around #60 overall next year. Simple math Howie.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    I like how he had to re-apply for his job. It worked out well for everyone.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    @KTar

    Did I say falling from 5th to 60th?

    My point is that BYU's statistical defensive rankings are highly overstated by playing a soft schedule.

    BYU has player and coaching inexperience returning on the o-line and an RB coach that has never coached... ever.

  • KTar Boise, ID
    Aug. 1, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    @ Howie
    "even with little returning experience the Cougars will be better."

    What are you talking about? Your utes lost more starters last year than we did. Every skill position on offense returns a starter from last year, a few of whom are on national awards watch lists. You are poking fun of someone who has every reason to be optimistic about BYU's offense this year. I guess it's typical...

  • KTar Boise, ID
    Aug. 1, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    @ Howard S
    So, let me get this straight... You are predicting BYU's defense to fall from #5 overall to somewhere below #60? If I was talking to you in person, I'd say put your money where your mouth is and I'd bet as much money as you'd be willing to bet. That is not going to happen friend.

    @ ekute
    "So...It's important to beat Utah...but...It doesn't matter if you lose to Utah...lol."

    Of course it's important to beat Utah... Just like it's important to beat Wyoming, UNLV, and every other bottom feeder. It's super embarrassing to lose to joke teams. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Remember when U lost to Colorado? Or had U already checked out that year because U already had your bowl game vs. BYU? Don't act like BYU isn't the biggest game on your schedule. Actions speak louder than words, and if I remember correctly, U stormed the field, what was it, thee times last year? LOL!

    Go Cougars!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    3rd best defense in the country... sure... statistically... against a soft schedule...

    but if they played Alabama's schedule they wouldn't be close to 3rd in the country...

    Oh, and offensively "almost everyone expects better offensive output"... well I guess that settles it then... even with little returning experience the Cougars will be better.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 4:31 a.m.

    "Anae's offense dominated Utah in several of the rivalry games. He has a 4-4 record against Utah, and Anae has all the tools necessary to beat utah this year."

    So...It's important to beat Utah...but...It doesn't matter if you lose to Utah...lol.

    Go Utes.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    July 31, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    We are very excited for this BYU season with the fast-starting offense. Time will soon tell how well this team is primed. Hopefully for huge success!

    Go Cougars!

  • Love skiing Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 10:57 p.m.

    Cougars Fans, thanks very much for your very kind words on the passing of Gaius Vaenuku. It was outstanding, you are to be commended.
    I love the fun banter back and forth. Way to fight for your team and show the love. Both fan base can do this and keep it respectful and clean. Utah and Byu will always post on each other article. Why, because they are the big fish in our pond called Utah. Keep religion out of it and remember that life is very precious and can be taken away at anytime.
    Go Utes beat Byu. Yes, I love Byu also.

  • dden45 Provo, Utah
    July 31, 2013 10:45 p.m.

    I feel bad for those who hate BYU more than they like their own team.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    July 31, 2013 10:37 p.m.

    I wish BYU well. I'll let the Cougars decide it on the field. Until then, I keep my expectations low and hopes/dreams very high. Go Cougars.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 31, 2013 10:34 p.m.

    RE: Howard S.

    "Better than average defense? Average offense?

    I don't know how you can expect either... "

    I'll explain it to you. Last season BYU had the third best defense in the country. Take away one game (OSU) and they would have ranked first statistically in several categories. They did lose some tremendous talent, but they also brought a lot back (including an all-american prospect). They also have a few returned missionaries, JC transfers, and new recruits that strengthen the defensive side of the ball.

    BYU historically has sported some great offensive units. That hasn't been the case for the last several years and hit a real low last season. This year, while there are still a lot of question marks, the talent is a definite upgrade from last year. While no one is expecting 50 points a game, almost everyone expects better offensive output over last seasons squad (one that ranked #58 in offensive yardage and #65 in points scored, which out of 124 would be middle of the pack, or "average").

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    July 31, 2013 10:28 p.m.

    Preseason predictions mean very little, but it will be very interesting to watch BYU football this year!

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 10:15 p.m.

    Howard S,
    quite soon here your number of comments is going to surpass the win total for the men in red this year. Maybe it already has.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    July 31, 2013 9:26 p.m.

    howie has all the answers. thanks

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 31, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Better than average defense? Average offense?

    I don't know how you can expect either...

    BYU lost a top draft pick on defense... they have many question marks on he d-line and the d-backfield... not sure how you assume a better than average defense.

    As for offense you have nothing but inexperience on the o-line and the coaching staff... not to mention QB... Not sure how you assume an average offense...

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 31, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    @Vladhagen

    Rented his house?

    Maybe he didn't want to sell a house in a dismal real estate market...

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    July 31, 2013 8:53 p.m.

    Hopefully this year BYU won't waste a good defense, like they did last year when they had the best defense in the school's history, only to play a quarterback with a broken back on offense who single-handedly gave away at least two games. I'm still scratching my head over that decision.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 31, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    I agree with Howard S. that Anae’s offensive units have not been “dominating” over Utah defenses, but they haven’t been half bad either. Here are the numbers…

    Year / Passing yards / Rushing yards / Total yards / offensive points scored

    2005: 309, 176, 485, 34
    2006: 375, 54, 429, 35
    2007: 269, 155, 424, 17
    2008: 205, 214, 419, 24
    2009: 134, 131, 265, 26
    2010: 228, 65, 293, 16
    2011: 199, 133, 332, 21 (w/UA)
    2012: 160, 320, 480, 34 (w/UA)
    Ave: 235, 156, 391, 26

    I think if there is any good news in these numbers it is that Anae’s offenses have shown a balanced attack against Utah. With an average offense this season and a better than average defense I like our chances come September. Go Cougs!

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2013 8:27 p.m.

    Why are 3 of the 4 comment here from BYU haters? Please find something more constructive to do with your time.

    Why was Anae just renting his house...? Did he know he would be coming back at some point?

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    July 31, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    CI,

    In which games did the BYU offense dominate Utah?
    16-17 Loss
    26-23 OT Win
    24-48 Loss
    17-10 Win
    33-31 Win
    34-41 OT Loss
    21-52 Loss
    0-3 Loss
    6-13 Loss

    I would like to understand from a BYU fan's perspective why 2.0 will be better than 1.0.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 31, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    @Cougar_Independence

    All the necessary tools to beat Utah this year...

    If the necessary tools are inexperienced players and coaches.... then I guess you're right...

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 31, 2013 7:24 p.m.

    So DH thinks BYU has an o-line advantage over Arizona's "proficiency and talent"...

    and just what is that BYU advantage?

    hmmmmm....

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    July 31, 2013 7:23 p.m.

    One thing is for sure: Anae's offense dominated Utah in several of the rivalry games. He has a 4-4 record against Utah, and Anae has all the tools necessary to beat utah this year.

    Go Cougars!