One thing is for sure: Anae's offense dominated Utah in several of the
rivalry games. He has a 4-4 record against Utah, and Anae has all the tools
necessary to beat utah this year.Go Cougars!
So DH thinks BYU has an o-line advantage over Arizona's "proficiency
and talent"...and just what is that BYU advantage?hmmmmm....
@Cougar_IndependenceAll the necessary tools to beat Utah this
year... If the necessary tools are inexperienced players and
coaches.... then I guess you're right...
CI,In which games did the BYU offense dominate Utah?16-17
Loss26-23 OT Win24-48 Loss17-10 Win33-31 Win34-41
OT Loss21-52 Loss0-3 Loss6-13 LossI would like to
understand from a BYU fan's perspective why 2.0 will be better than 1.0.
Why are 3 of the 4 comment here from BYU haters? Please find something more
constructive to do with your time. Why was Anae just renting his
house...? Did he know he would be coming back at some point?
I agree with Howard S. that Anae’s offensive units have not been
“dominating” over Utah defenses, but they haven’t been half
bad either. Here are the numbers…Year / Passing yards /
Rushing yards / Total yards / offensive points scored2005: 309, 176,
485, 342006: 375, 54, 429, 352007: 269, 155, 424, 172008: 205,
214, 419, 242009: 134, 131, 265, 262010: 228, 65, 293, 162011:
199, 133, 332, 21 (w/UA)2012: 160, 320, 480, 34 (w/UA)Ave: 235,
156, 391, 26I think if there is any good news in these numbers it is
that Anae’s offenses have shown a balanced attack against Utah. With an
average offense this season and a better than average defense I like our chances
come September. Go Cougs!
Hopefully this year BYU won't waste a good defense, like they did last year
when they had the best defense in the school's history, only to play a
quarterback with a broken back on offense who single-handedly gave away at least
two games. I'm still scratching my head over that decision.
@VladhagenRented his house? Maybe he didn't want
to sell a house in a dismal real estate market...
@WiscougarfanBetter than average defense? Average offense?I don't know how you can expect either... BYU lost a top
draft pick on defense... they have many question marks on he d-line and the
d-backfield... not sure how you assume a better than average defense.As for offense you have nothing but inexperience on the o-line and the
coaching staff... not to mention QB... Not sure how you assume an average
howie has all the answers. thanks
Howard S,quite soon here your number of comments is going to surpass the
win total for the men in red this year. Maybe it already has.
Preseason predictions mean very little, but it will be very interesting to watch
BYU football this year!
RE: Howard S. "Better than average defense? Average offense?I don't know how you can expect either... "I'll explain it to you. Last season BYU had the third best defense in
the country. Take away one game (OSU) and they would have ranked first
statistically in several categories. They did lose some tremendous talent, but
they also brought a lot back (including an all-american prospect). They also
have a few returned missionaries, JC transfers, and new recruits that strengthen
the defensive side of the ball. BYU historically has sported some
great offensive units. That hasn't been the case for the last several
years and hit a real low last season. This year, while there are still a lot of
question marks, the talent is a definite upgrade from last year. While no one
is expecting 50 points a game, almost everyone expects better offensive output
over last seasons squad (one that ranked #58 in offensive yardage and #65 in
points scored, which out of 124 would be middle of the pack, or
I wish BYU well. I'll let the Cougars decide it on the field. Until then,
I keep my expectations low and hopes/dreams very high. Go Cougars.
I feel bad for those who hate BYU more than they like their own team.
Cougars Fans, thanks very much for your very kind words on the passing of Gaius
Vaenuku. It was outstanding, you are to be commended. I love the fun
banter back and forth. Way to fight for your team and show the love. Both fan
base can do this and keep it respectful and clean. Utah and Byu will always post
on each other article. Why, because they are the big fish in our pond called
Utah. Keep religion out of it and remember that life is very precious and can be
taken away at anytime.Go Utes beat Byu. Yes, I love Byu also.
We are very excited for this BYU season with the fast-starting offense. Time
will soon tell how well this team is primed. Hopefully for huge success!Go Cougars!
"Anae's offense dominated Utah in several of the rivalry games. He has
a 4-4 record against Utah, and Anae has all the tools necessary to beat utah
this year."So...It's important to beat Utah...but...It
doesn't matter if you lose to Utah...lol.Go Utes.
@Wiscougarfan3rd best defense in the country... sure...
statistically... against a soft schedule...but if they played
Alabama's schedule they wouldn't be close to 3rd in the country...Oh, and offensively "almost everyone expects better offensive
output"... well I guess that settles it then... even with little returning
experience the Cougars will be better.
@ Howard SSo, let me get this straight... You are predicting BYU's
defense to fall from #5 overall to somewhere below #60? If I was talking to you
in person, I'd say put your money where your mouth is and I'd bet as
much money as you'd be willing to bet. That is not going to happen
friend.@ ekute"So...It's important to beat
Utah...but...It doesn't matter if you lose to Utah...lol."Of course it's important to beat Utah... Just like it's important to
beat Wyoming, UNLV, and every other bottom feeder. It's super embarrassing
to lose to joke teams. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
Remember when U lost to Colorado? Or had U already checked out that year because
U already had your bowl game vs. BYU? Don't act like BYU isn't the
biggest game on your schedule. Actions speak louder than words, and if I
remember correctly, U stormed the field, what was it, thee times last year? LOL!
@ Howie"even with little returning experience the Cougars will be
better."What are you talking about? Your utes lost more starters
last year than we did. Every skill position on offense returns a starter from
last year, a few of whom are on national awards watch lists. You are poking fun
of someone who has every reason to be optimistic about BYU's offense this
year. I guess it's typical...
@KTarDid I say falling from 5th to 60th?My point is that
BYU's statistical defensive rankings are highly overstated by playing a
soft schedule.BYU has player and coaching inexperience returning on
the o-line and an RB coach that has never coached... ever.
I like how he had to re-apply for his job. It worked out well for everyone.
@Howie"Did I say falling from 5th to 60th?"Yes:"Better than average defense? Average offense?I
don't know how you can expect either... "Your words, not
mine. If I can't expect a "better than average" defense, that means
that BYU's defense will rank right around #60 overall next year. Simple
KTar:"Don't act like BYU isn't the biggest game on
your schedule. Actions speak louder than words, and if I remember correctly, U
stormed the field, what was it, thee times last year? LOL!"Utah
sold out every game at RES last season, yet the top attended game was USC. So
despite all games SRO, nearly 400 MORE fans showed up to watch the Trojans than
who came to see the Indy-WACers. So there you have it! Actions DO speak louder
than words. USC is the biggest game on our schedule. We just didn't storm
the field after the USC game because we lost.Do you know which was
the highest attended game at LES over these past 2 seasons?Answer:
The Utah game (2011).Actions speak louder than words. Clearly it is
UTAH who is your "biggest game on YOUR schedule", and not the other way
Howard S.Does the name Brian Johnson ring a bell for you? Remind us
how many coaching jobs he had to prepare him for being your OC? We will all soon
see if our new coaches need someone to hold their hands and work with co-
cordinators like BJ does!!! You may try to tear down my team but I am a fan and
will cheer them on loud and proud this year as I have done every year since I
can remember!!!Go Cougs!!!Go Utes!!!
KTar:"What are you talking about? Your utes lost more starters
last year than we did."Not so my research-deficit, Indy-WACey
little brother. According to Phil Steele, the Utes AND the Indy-WACers both
return only 12 starters. Utah returns 6 players each on offense and defense.
The "Band of Bunglers" return 8 players on offense and 4 on defense.
@ NavalAlthough it wasn't stated, I was implying returning
offensive starters. I'll try and be more clear for you next time. Also, I'd please cite your source for your attendance records. I
haven't been able to find BYU or Utah's attendance for last year
online. As much as I'd like to believe you, I'd like to see it for
@Wiscoug"one that ranked #58 in offensive yardage and #65 in
points scored, which out of 124 would be middle of the pack, or
'average'"That's actually the "median,"
not the "average." An average would be the sum total PPG scored from
all teams, divided by the total number of teams. The "average" offense
in 2012 scored 29.092 PPG. BYU was very close at 28.7 PPG. The
"average" offense in 2012 produced 405.791 YPG. Again, BYU was very
close at 400.2 YPG. The "median" was actually #62 (offense) Western
Michigan, with 439.3 YPG and 29.3 PPG. So yes, BYU was a very "average"
offensive team, which would be expected since it's so close to the median.
And Western Michigan was better.
Robert Anae and "interesting" should never be used in the same sentence.
"Intriguing" perhaps but not "interesting" :-)
@Reno Cougs Fan 68Brian Johnson?Didn't the
collective Cougar Nation mock incessantly the hiring of an inexperienced OC.And yet now the Nation thinks an inexperienced o-line coached combined
with an RB coach who has never coached at all is just fine.
KTar requests "please cite your source for your attendance records."You might try ESPN, broadcast partner of everybody, really.Navigate to a team's schedule, select a past year, click on a game score,
and that brings up the box score which has attendance at the bottom.
KTar:"...please cite your source for your attendance
records."My source for that comment was from my 2013 Phil Steele
magazine. That publication offers a LOT of information, including Home and Road
game attendances for all games. However, SoonerUte was correct that you may
also find this information on ESPN's college football site. The way I
navigate that site for this information is as follows:1. Click on
the "Standings" icon at the top of the page.2. Select your
team.3. Scroll down to your teams 2013 schedule. At the right of this
schedule will be a box titled "2012 Team Leaders". Select a random
player from your team.4. Select "Game Log".5. Select the
score ("Result") of the game you want to check the attendance.6.
Select "Box Score"7. Scroll all the way to the bottom, or type
"CntlF attendance"If you don't have a Phil Steele
magazine for the year in question, you'll have to follow the above
instructions.Bottom line: You were wrong. Don't be so frantic
and emotional next time.
RE: Howard S. Yes, as I've already posted BYU's DEFENSE
would have done fine against Alabama's schedule, and there's actual
evidence to back that claim. Against BYU's top five opponents last season
(four of which were ranked) BYU's defense was still top twenty in most
statistical categories. Of course BYU's top five opponents on average were
better than the average Alabama opponent so logic would dictate that BYU would
have done even better against Alabama's schedule than they did in the top
half of their schedule. Sorry, but the truth can be hard to take. And you can snicker about my "almost everyone expects better offensive
output" remark, but as YOU have noted a number of times, Phil Steele is an
objective and reliable source. He has BYU's offense as significantly
better (two all-americans) and BYU going 9-3. I'll take his opinion over a
BYU hater any day. Go Cougs!
It's very interesting to me that Howard undoubtedly knows more about BYU
stats than anyone else posting... Interesting in the sense that someone would
spend that much time and energy being the resident expert on a team for which he
clearly has no love. Perhaps it's really an indication of the importance
of the rivalry to him.
RE: Aggie238Thanks for the stats refresher course... never was one
of my better subjects. Whatever the case my point stands, BYU's offense
was average last season and most objective fans and analysts (and even most
anti-BYU ones) predict it will be better this season.
Howard S.Every coach has to start somewhere!! It may turn out bad or
they just might be good at teaching the players what they need to know and do
and get them to do it in games!!! Only time and the games this season will tell
us which it will be!!! I am really looking forward to our game in Sept.Go Cougs!!!Go Utes!!!P.S. Not every BYU fan got frantic and
emotional about the BJ hiring!
@K Tar perhaps you need to be reminded that the same year Utah lost to Colorado
they played in a bowl game (Sun Bowl) and kicked BYU to the curb (54-10) at BYU.
Ouch! So if Utah is a bottom feeder and a joke of a program, what does that make
BYU the dust under a bad program and a bad joke to boot?
@WiscougarfanCougars love statistical comparisons against the big
boys because it's only in the statistics that they show well... On the
field, where it counts, BYU has a losing record against the big boys... that is
fact... Not supposition based on statistics.As the great Rick
Majerus said... "Statistics conceal as much as they reveal"... In
BYU's case statistics conceal that the Cougars have a losing record against
the big boys... I know the truth can be hard to take... So Cougar fans bury
their sorrows in the statistics.As for Phil Steele... I have NEVER
referred to him as an objective and reliable source... try again.
RE: Howard S. "Cougars love statistical comparisons against the
big boys because it's only in the statistics that they show well... On the
field, where it counts, BYU has a losing record against the big boys... that is
fact... Not supposition based on statistics."No, fan use
statistics to back their claims while trolls make up whatever they want. I
believe stats are quite compelling when you look at them in context. What you
are discounting is how bad BYU's offense was last year. You have to take
that under consideration when talking about the defense. BYU's recent
losing record to good teams IS NOT because they have a sub-par defense. RE: the Phil Steele accusation. I truly apologize, I must have confused
you with another BYU-hater. I should have done my homework and looked it up.
However, I am curious... do you personally believe that BYU's offense this
season will be worse than last season?
@WiscougarfanOffensive, defensive statistics or statistics of any
kind are irrelevant and do not prove supremacy if you lose the game...If it gives you comfort that BYU compares statistically favorable while losing
to the big boys... Then enjoy...But BYU loses when they play the big
boys.. that is not made up... and statistics don't explain that fact
away...As for BYU offense this year... I don't know how they
will do... and neither do you... and your statistics don't provide any
predictive evidence one way or the other...What I do know is that
there are lots of offensive and defensive question marks for BYU this year and
if any of those questions are not answered affirmatively... It could be a long,
and eye opening, season for the Cougars...
RE: Howard S. You sure are anti-statistics for someone who prides
himself on being part of the "Conference of Champions" (a reputation
gained by PAST NUMBER of championships), routing for a team that STATISTICALLY
outranks BYU according to online recruiting services, and has beaten the Cougs 3
of 4, 8 of 11, statistic, etc. etc. Statistics are what all fans
(yourself included) rely on for the off-season smack talk so don't pretend
that only BYU fans are number crunching. "As for BYU offense
this year... I don't know how they will do... and neither do you... and
your statistics don't provide any predictive evidence one way or the
other..."So do you disagree that Alabama should be ranked #1 (or
even in the top 25) in the pre-season? After all, they're only placed so
high because they won games in the past, get top recruits, and play a tough SOS
(all predictive indicators).
@WiscougarfanWho said anything about PAC12 championships, recruiting
rankings, the Utes dominance over BYU, or Alabama?Changing the
subject, are we?You know you've lost the argument when your
only response is to change the subject...
Howie:Statistics are the only way to gauge what could/should happen when
it hasn't actually happened yet. Maybe you feel playing simulations on your
PS3 is the way to go, or evaluating the experience of a RB coach who will not be
calling plays or be any part of actual game management (though he does have
All-WAC honors having played the position). If these coping skills bring some
comfort in your hatred of BYU, have at it.As for what BYU does
against the big boys, you're right, I wish they performed better. Maybe
after Utah actually beats a big boy in their "power" conference you can
come back and tell us all how it's done. Utah is a laughing stalk to the
big boys as much as anyone but I guess you like playing the role of the pot? I
will enjoy talking stats and wins/losses with you after the season, but
you'll have to speak loud so I can hear you through the paper bag on your
RE: Howard S. "Changing the subject, are we?"Nice try. Obviously we're talking about the role of statistics in smack
talk, which is why I used the examples that I did. I guess the obvious is hard
to see when when you're lurking under a bridge (that's what trolls do,
@CougsndawgsPredicting the future?If you believe that
past results are predictive of future outcomes then you must believe BYU will
have a losing record against the BCS teams it will play this year... Right?
@WiscougarfanStatistics is what we were talking about....
noooooo.....You talk about defensive statistics because its the only
place that BYU shows favorably...You don't want to talk about
BYU's losing record against big boy teams... and you don't want to
talk about BYU's returning inexperience on the o-line players and
coaching.... you don't want to talk about a RB coach with zero
experience... and you can't explain how any of these things bode well for
BYU's future...So you want to talk about other things...
Considering the tragedy affecting the Ute program this week and the many
respectful condolences from BYU fans on another thread, I think it's beyond
low for the usual suspects to come trolling on Cougar articles. Surely
it's a moment for a truce.
Howie"Brian Johnson?Didn't the collective Cougar
Nation mock incessantly the hiring of an inexperienced OC."Who's Brian Johnson?
@idabluUnderstandable that you would forget BJ... he's just undefeated against BYU as a player/coach... that's all..
Coming this fall: Robert Anae 2.0Coming this December: the firing of
Robert Anae 2.0One can only wonder where Robert Anae 3.0 will
"the same year Utah lost to Colorado they played in a bowl game (Sun Bowl)
and kicked BYU to the curb (54-10) at BYU. Ouch! So if Utah is a bottom feeder
and a joke of a program, what does that make BYU the dust under a bad program
and a bad joke to boot?"That is a good point to bring up.
I'm guessing that Utah fans won't say that Colorado is a better team
than Utah (after all, Colorado is known to be one of the worst teams in FBS). So
then, why did they lose? Did they have a bad game while Colorado had a good
game? I'm guessing you would say yes, that that was the case. And if that
is the case, why can it not be the case whenever BYU plays Utah? The last 3
years BYU has under-performed against Utah (true statement). Apparently
it's ok for Utah to have a bad game, but nobody else.And
Howard, saying Wiscougarfan "changed" the subject to statistics because
he "lost" is so silly. It seems that you really need BYU to validate
your own program.
@Riverton Cougar"I'm guessing they would say yes?"*******So you've now resorted to asking the question and then
answering for Utah fans in order to make your point?Colorado won
because they were better... and then Utah followed up by beating them the very
next year.Utah beats BYU because the Utes are better... And have
been better three years straight...The manufactured excuse that the
best team "underperformed" is silly... if you're the best team then
win the game... period... No excuses.Oh... and the statistical
arguement from Wiscougarfan is just more silliness trying to validate BYU with
something other than on-field results... BYU has a losing record against the big
boys... Wiscougarfan can't dispute that so he wants to talk about defensive
"So you've now resorted to asking the question and then answering for
Utah fans in order to make your point?"Well, I've yet to
read any comment from Ute fans suggesting that Colorado was better until Utah.
Until now, that is:"Colorado won because they were
better"Ok, so Colorado is better than Utah. Howard has said it.
According to the Sagarin ratings, Colorado ranked at 107. So, since Colorado was
better than Utah, where would that put Utah? This is the first time I've
heard a Ute fan say this."The manufactured excuse that the best
team "underperformed" is silly... if you're the best team then win
the game... period... No excuses."So, that means that it not
only matters who you beat, but also who you lose to. Since Utah lost to one of
the worst teams in college football, what does that make them?And
finally, who was the better team in 2011: LSU or Alabama?Since the
better team always wins.... period... LSU was clearly better because they beat
Alabama. But... since the better team always wins... period... Alabama was
clearly better than LSU because they beat them.
@Riverton CougarIf Utah believed they were the better team in the
2011 loss... they stepped up in 2012 and proved it....Since 2010 BYU
has had two chances to step up and prove that 2010 against Utah was a fluke. But
they haven't.Now Cougar Nation makes the lame arguement that
2010 was a fluke... and 2011 was a fluke... and 2012 was a fluke...Cougars simply embarrass themselves by trying to claim they are the better
team having lost three in a row...If the Cougars were really the
better team they would win the games... But they can't...Just
win the games... no excuses... then the Cougar Nation wouldn't be forced to
make silly claims of superiority when they can't win the games.Oh, and Games are determined on the field... not in the Sagarin
@ Howie: I will answer your questions about BYU's defense and offense.
The answers are, Defense = Bronco. Offense = Anae.@ Naval Vet:
Since when does attendance determine which team is the most important. Last time
I heard Bronco and team members talking about which team was the most important,
they indicated that the upcoming game was the most important - that the team
should not look beyond that upcoming game, but play each game one at a time.
Some games may be more intriguing than others, but each game is either a win or
a loss, so in that sense, each is as important as the next.I am
looking forward, first and foremost, to the Virginia game. After that the Texas
game. And so forth. Some of you people, fans of the Utes and of the Cougars, are
swatting at flies, with your juvenile remarks and bantering. How about after the
game on Sep 21, we all find positive things to say about the great plays that
are made during the game, and those players who stand out, whether they are Utes
or Cougars, without saying hurtful things about the opposing team, coaches,
fans, making it a positive experience for everyone.
RE: Howard S."Oh... and the statistical arguement from
Wiscougarfan is just more silliness trying to validate BYU with something other
than on-field results... BYU has a losing record against the big boys...
Wiscougarfan can't dispute that so he wants to talk about defensive
statistics."Actually, no. But it was cute seeing you try to
talk for me. The actual reason I brought statistics into this discussion is
because you claimed that BYU's defense would not be "better than
average" this season (see your comments earlier in this thread). That is a
silly claim, so rather than doing what trolls do (make stuff up), I used actual
evidence to support my argument. You should try that sometime, it feels good
(and makes you look less silly).
@WiscougarfanActually nooooo...I said I didn't know
how you could expect a better than average defense....Still not sure
how last years defensive stats against soft competition suggests a better than
average BYU defense in 2013...As for evidence... did I make up the
fact fact that BYU has a losing record against the big boys of college
football... and you have yet to explain how that fact bodes well against the
toughest schedule BYU has ever faced.
"Oh, and Games are determined on the field... not in the Sagarin
spreadsheets..."Rankings are the usual way of determining who
the best teams in the nation are. For example, after the first 3 games, there
will be many teams with a 3-0 record and many with a 2-1 record. How do you
determine who the best team is? After 7 games there will be some teams with a
7-0 record, others with a 6-1 record, and so on. How do you know who is
better?By the end of the season, how do you know the best team in
the nation? Who should play in the championship game? In 2004 and 2008, I bet
you would have said that Utah should play in the national championship game
(judging by your best-team-always-wins philosophy). Were they really the best
team? How do you know?I guess we don't need all these so-called
experts when we have Howard. BYU is terrible because he says they are. Why
don't you tell us your predictions for BYU's games and we'll see
if you really know football like you say you do?
Howard S, thanks for a textbook example of what trolls do. Wiscougarfan: "you claimed that BYU's defense would not be
"better than average" this season."Howard S.: "I said I
didn't know how you could expect a better than average defense...."Of course those two statements mean essentially the same thing, but
rather than responding to rebuttal you bicker over semantics and then proceed to
change the subject. Also, I have not responded to any of your
subject-changing "lose against big boy" claims, because 1)there is no
way to respond to that--it's true. BYU has not recently won against
big-time opponents (either has Utah), 2) because I try to stay to the topic
being discussed instead of simply attacking the opposing team fan base, and 3)
because I have tried (in vain) to get you (and other trolls) to respond to
actual claims being made. Once you start responding my claims I'll be
happy to consider yours.
@WiscougarfanChanging the subject?The article is about
Anae... that's offense... and you want to talk about BYU's defensive
stats from last year...The article is about BYU... And you want to
make reference to Utah...You do get it right, however, that you have
no excuse... no justification... and no response to explain BYU's losing
record against the big boys of college foot ball... and at the end
of the day that losing record defines BYU's place in the world of college
@Riverton CougarBYU terrible?I've never said
that...I do know that based on their losing record... BYU isn't
on the same level as the big boys of college football...And also
know that based on BYU's losing record... Utah is the better team.These are on-field results... outcomes that are not based on statistical
analysis or voting polls... on the field... that's where it
counts...But if you want to continue to claim that BYU is
superior... even with it's losing record... then enjoy...
@Riverton Cougie "That is a good point to bring up. I'm guessing that
Utah fans won't say that Colorado is a better team than Utah (after all,
Colorado is known to be one of the worst teams in FBS). So then, why did they
lose? Did they have a bad game while Colorado had a good game? I'm guessing
you would say yes, that that was the case. And if that is the case, why can it
not be the case whenever BYU plays Utah? The last 3 years BYU has
under-performed against Utah (true statement). Apparently it's ok for Utah
to have a bad game, but nobody else."Yes Riverton Cougie one off
bad games happen I agree with you completley. However what I don't agree
with you on along with everybody else in the nation but cougie fan's. Is 3
in a row, 4 of 5, 8 of 11 and 56-34 is not a fluke. That is domination proven
over and over not just one fluke game. Had the utes just beat the Y once or hear
and there I would agree with you however that's not the case!
Anae makes a huge difference in a positive way for the Cougars. That might not
translate this year with all the changes and inexperience on the offensive side
of the ball, but it makes me nervous as a Ute fan nonetheless. Anae
is passionate about BYU and came back 'fully invested' despite being
driven out of town a few years back. I understand expectations and all, but I
was vocal to my Cougar friends that letting Anae go before was a curious
decision in a negative way relative to BYU football and offensive production.
One thing about all the smack talk -- it makes for an interesting anticipation
to the coming season. I wish BYU and Utah success. But I hope BYU wins this
year. -- should be fun to watch.
"Yes Riverton Cougie one off bad games happen I agree with you completley.
However what I don't agree with you on along with everybody else in the
nation but cougie fan's. Is 3 in a row, 4 of 5, 8 of 11 and 56-34 is not a
fluke. That is domination proven over and over not just one fluke game. Had the
utes just beat the Y once or hear and there I would agree with you however
that's not the case!"So since Utah is clearly that much
better than BYU, and since BYU has won a national championship, a Heisman trophy
winner, and has had more than 15 seasons with 10 wins or more, that must mean
that Utah has at least 2 national championships, 2 Heisman winners, and at least
30 seasons with 10 or more wins. I guess you are right: when it comes to
comparing the two, BYU has nothing on Utah.
Why do a few U fans read all the BYU articles to comment negatively? I
don't get it. I wouldn't waste my time in such tedious pursuits. Read
the Utah articles - make positive comments. Enjoy football, don't bury your
light in such petty resentments.