Comments about ‘Boys, girls may be equal perpetrators of teen dating abuse’

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Published: Wednesday, July 31 2013 3:50 p.m. MDT

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Logit
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This new survey could be at odds with the one from the National Dating Abuse Helpline because the later survey relied on the proportion of female calls received by the helpline! That is, it wasn't random nor representative. In short, it might be those more likely to phone-in to a teenage abuse helpline are young women; young male victims, by contrast, may internalize the abuse and not phone it in. It's simply not very "cool" or "manly" for a young man to proactively phone a helpline and report that his girlfriend's beating him up. However, a more anonymous, representative sample like this one here from the APA can reveal the more plausible truth.

shaun66
mesa, az

I am sure the feminists are proud!

Bebyebe
UUU, UT

"...when girl are the perpetrators, they typically lash out with name-calling and hitting. Boys, on the other hand, are much more likely to commit severe sexual and physical assaults."

Name calling and hitting is not equivalent to severe sexual and physical assaults. This article headline is deliberately misleading.

Larceny
Rural Hall, USA, NC

I think the melodramatic photo at the start of this article pretty much sums up the entirety of the content... -_-

Christmas Carole
LAS CRUCES, NM

Guys & Gals...If YOU have experienced this situation either on the giving OR receiving end, it is EXTREMELY important to look within yourselves. This type of situation is indicative of problems within ourselves. The pattern will most likely(if not ABSOLUTELY)continue until you have sought for help from the many sources available,(including and especially your Heavenly Father). We are "drawn to" and "attract" those who will either treat us this way or we can treat this way. It's an equally participating "dysfunctional dance". I experienced two disastrous relationships and 57 years before I understood and made changes. With all the help available in today's world if one continues in this pattern then it is out of choice....

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

Alfred Adler, the famed psychologist, believed that the defining driving concept in the human is power. Men and women resolve this in different ways. Obviously, women are more emotional and men are more physical. The manipulative nature of women can be used as support or as a way to control their mate. Women are much more prone to be "passive-aggressive" and cause the physical lashing out of the male.

John20000
Cedar Hills, UT

I interpret this data as serious dating happens before teens are mature enough.

Christmas Carole
LAS CRUCES, NM

@JBQ
I emphatically disagree with the idea that ANYONE else "causes" our behavior! That vein of thinking enables others to hurt someone else and NOT take credit for ones own actions. Our Heavenly Father insured by choosing the Savior that we(and everyone on this earth fought for it)all have the freedom to make our OWN choices, regardless of the situation. I'm not saying passive/aggressive behavior is acceptable or healthy, but I am saying blaming someone ELSE for our choices is unhealthy...

sjc
layton, UT

Just more proof of the softness of the american male these days

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@JBQ
"Women are much more prone to be "passive-aggressive" and cause the physical lashing out of the male."

Cause? When you read about a rape story is your first thought "what was she wearing?"

berlah
utah, UT

It is ridiculous to compare name-calling to physical abuse and imply the two are equal. No one gets sent to the hospital when they are the recipient of name-calling.

The title of this article is misleading and creates misinformation.

berlah
utah, UT

It is ridiculous to compare name-calling to physical abuse and promote the idea the two are equal. No one goes to the hospital as a victim of name-calling.

This article is deliberately misleading and will be passed on as false evidence that the victimization of men and women is equal when it is not.

Noogieburger
Salt Lake City, UT

I find it incredibly curious and fascinating at the same time that as society plods along we are starting to learn that women aren't always perfectly precious. After years of the feminist movement and the destruction of the male influence in society in which women were exalted simply for being women and men were debased simply for being debased, it is good to see that we are starting to reverse that trend. It's a simple fact, really, women aren't perfect. Welcome to the boat of imperfection ladies. Now let's work together to make things right again and treat each other as equals and with respect.

advoc8
Smithfield, UT

What would it take for the UDVC to not get angry and violent at the truth??? What would it take for the UDVC and media to finally get it, to propose solutions to end as much domestic and partner violence as possible??? Truth would do it, but truth is the only thing more offensive than lies which makes many violent, and call names when truth offends them... Watch and see.

advoc8
Smithfield, UT

The biggest study on dating violence ever done was a few years ago and the local media ran the story that women were abused, again... Why? Because the UDVC, as usual, lied and changed the real results of that biggest partner dating violence study ever. They refuse to tell us the results, that women abuse/perpetrate more and that roughly an equal number of mutual violence exists. This applies to domestic violence too, roughly equal mutual perps and more female sole perps, initiators. Yet the UDVC and media refuse to report reality, and cause soooo many problems with their agenda. They can stop abuse if they will tell the truth? Does anyone care? What would it take for the media to become honest and jettison the lies of the UDVC, their only source of partner violent info/missinfo?

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

The article is unclear in many details; this may be skewing the results to equalize male and female abuse or, otoh, to suggest that the female abuse is mainly verbal. Females sometimes sexually abuse, especially nowadays, quite capable of making an unwanted "pass" at a male.

Back in the Seventies, when everyone was talking about sex abuse, "research" was said to prove that most women were sexually abused. Very few actually read the "research" in detail which defined "abuse" very loosely including verbal nuances, etc, subjective reactions, and lumped it all together with all stated unwanted touching of any degree as "rape". The courts provided novel legal definitions of "rape" to include consensual intimacies between a young couple in which one was from one day to a year or two older, the older being legally adult. So yes, there are agendas and lies in "statistics".

Other things that skew results are reporting frequency, fraudulent, self-interested, or malicous slanders, and an ugly stereotype of a male as someone who always wants intimacy with any woman without reference to personal taste or morality. Men who are discerning or moral are mocked and disbelieved.

TP
TWIN FALLS, ID

There are "passive aggressive relationships" that are just as (or more) damaging as physical violence...and it doesn't leave the kind of scar/mark/proof that you can take a 'photo' of, or show a second party... Abuse of any kind, by any gender is wrong, but not all abuse gets 'equal' attention or the scorn of society.

I have heard some women say in the face of significant psychological and emotional abuse..."It would be easier if he just 'Hit ME!' Non-physical abuse is much harder to substantiate, validate, and many times 'blurs' the lines of 'what is abuse'?

Thank you for drawing attention to both sides of the abuse spectrum.

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

"It is ridiculous to compare name-calling to physical abuse and imply the two are equal. No one gets sent to the hospital when they are the recipient of name-calling."

So name-calling is good to go then?

Somehow I get the impression that in your eyes name-calling is abusive only when a man does it; when a woman does it, she's just "blowing off steam" and the guy needs to "man up" and not be so sensitive.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

"Carlos Cuevas, another presenter at the APA conference, pointed out that when girl are the perpetrators, they typically lash out with name-calling and hitting. Boys, on the other hand, are much more likely to commit severe sexual and physical assaults."

I'd like to see Cuevas EVIDENCE, rather than an assumption.

During the OJ Simpson trials, and official from the National Organization for Women wrote to USA to take the opportunity to shine a light on ALL abuse, not just abuse by males, saying, "More abuse is initiated by women and it is MORE violent. How is it more violent? Because women use tools: irons, knifes, hammers, pans, etc. to make up for their inferior size and strength.

Facts lead to solutions. Assumptions and agendas delay them.

No excuse for abuse, of any kind, by anyone.

xert
Santa Monica, CA

Gosh, for some strange reason I still tend to think that guys are more responsible.

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