Sine when is treating women with respect and believing in fair treatment for all
"liberal?" I would say that the conduct of Bill Clinton, Anthony
Weiner, Elliot Spitzer and Bob Filner suggests that many "liberals"
view women to simply be something to use for their own pleasure. As long as a
man votes pro-abortion, how he uses women is not viewed as relevant. (Of
course many men are pro-abortion becuase it furthers their ability to use
women.)As the brother of four sisters (each of whom is successful in
their own endeavors) and father of four daughters, I am conservative in large
part because I respect women. Yes a conservative may divide household chores
along more traditional roles. But my daughters would much rather do the dishes
(which their brother does too) than mow the lawn when it is 100 degrees
outside.With four sisters, my son is conservative and treats his sisters
I think thats a very slanted view that depends on a lot of different factors to
be conclusive. Watching my sister do dishes made me a Republican? I'm not
buying that one, especially since I had to do waaaaay more chores than my sister
growing up. I also don't believe Brother-Sister relationships
are indicative of future Husband-Wife Relationships, for a very obvious reason:
My Wife is not my Sister... If she were, I wouldn't have married her would
RBB has it right. Especially with the examples he gives, it would seem that
treating women with respect is far more conservative.And given this
study's findings, maybe that's a reason so many liberals are for
abortion; they want to make sure that Johnny doesn't have a sister.
The girls knocked the sense out of 'em when they were growing up.
I don’t make too much of this study although I find it interesting. All
studies have a slant and the views of whomever conducts the study can affect the
findings. Having a sister certainly didn’t make me more conservative. She
is quite conservative in her political and social views while I lean decidedly
to the left. That doesn’t hurt our sibling relationship. But it does make
conversation more interesting at the Thanksgiving dinner table.
@RBB"Sine when is treating women with respect and believing in
fair treatment for all "liberal?" I would say that the conduct of Bill
Clinton, Anthony Weiner, Elliot Spitzer and Bob Filner suggests that many
"liberals" view women to simply be something to use for their own
pleasure."Do you really want to go down the "my political
party representatives have higher morals than yours?" Really?Since you gave a list of names of liberals, I'll counter that with a list
of conservatives: Newt Gingrich, Rudolph Giuliani, Mark Sanford, John Ensign,
Chip Pickering, David Vitter, Strom Thurmond. Would you like me to go on?
Interesting study. When I was growing up, I was told so many times growing up
that I was gay because I was surrounded by sisters. I guess that's what has
made me more liberal in treating our gay brothers and sisters with dignity and
It wasn't my sister who made me liberal or conservative. She's a
"bleeding-heart" liberal and I love her truly. Our father is a very
conservative, as is my mother. I was really conservative most of my life. I
would get fired up listening to Sean Hannity every afternoon after 9/11 on AFN
when I was in the Army. What changed me from conservative to
liberal was going off to war to "defend" us from Iraq. I saw many of my
brothers-in-arms killed (yes, saw them killed) and maimed for no honest,
strategic reason. I love my country, but my view of it changed a great deal
serving in war. It has nothing to do with my lovely sister. I
realize that my experience is mine alone and totally anecdotal.
@Larceny"Watching my sister do dishes made me a Republican? I'm
not buying that one, especially since I had to do waaaaay more chores than my
sister growing up. "It's an average, it doesn't apply
to everyone (for instance I have a sister and I'm liberal). @RBBDavid Vitter, Mark Sanford, John McCain, and Newt Gingrich no longer
@CHS85The difference is when a conservative does not respect women
they are looked down on by other conservatives. Newt did not win the nomination
despite being the most articulate of the group because most conservatives will
not vote for someone who acts like that. How far did Guliani go outside liberal
New York. On the flip side Anthony Weiner is leading in the polls despite his
complete lack of impulse controll. If Gov. Herbery was sending pictures of his
privates and having phone sex with strangers, do you really think that hewould
have a snowball's chance in St. George of getting re-elected?As
for you switch to liberalism, would you have become a conservative in Vietnam?
While Bush may have been a republican, he was hardly a concervatine (started new
medicade programs, grew government, increased the debt). Anyone who has been in
the military should appreciate the downsides of a bloated bureauocracy.
@RBBMcCain won the nomination in 2008 though after having previously
cheated in his marriage... and Vitter and Sanford were re-elected after their
prostitution and hiking the Appalachian trail scandals. So your argument
doesn't work here.Weiner never led in the RCP average of polls
(he did lead in one poll), and he was always projected to lose the runoff
against Quinn. Now he's polling in 4th place.
@RBB"Anyone who has been in the military should appreciate the
downsides of a bloated bureauocracy."My views of the government
during my time in combat were far more primal than thinking about who bloated
the bureaucracy more than the other guy. My view was life and death. If
you've studied psychology, you'll understand that in order to give a
hoot about your place in society you need to have safety (Maslow's
hierarchy). You can also get on your high horse after the fact and
talk about how Bush wasn't a conservative. Which party did he represent?
He was the chosen representative of the conservative party (Republicans), not
only once, but twice. I voted for him twice. I don't know how I would
have handled Vietnam. I was five when the war ended. You can also
justify bad behavior by your chosen party leaders all you want, but it is still
bad behavior. The worst part is that most of these hypicrites ran on party
platforms of strong family values, as well as strong Christian values. Bad
behavior is bad behavior no matter how you want to dress it up and neither party
I do not see the Republican party as conservative. They are just less liberal in
some things that the Democratic, for example abortion. Given a candidate that
supports abortion and the one that does not I will vote for the one that does
not so I end up voting Republican but not with all of my heart - of the two
evils I choose the lesser one.
It is only fair to hear from both sides.Will there be a follow up article
to learn what happened to a man with only brothers. Is he a harsh, troublesome
liberal?Inquiring minds are holding their breath for the answer.These generalizations are sometimes incorrect.
@Sasha PachevWhat we have right now is quite literally the most
conservative the Republican party has ever been according to DW-NOMINATE scores.
They sure aren't liberal, otherwise I'd like them a lot more.
I wonder how many people retain the political leanings of their parents? My guess is that significant influences are where one lives and the political
party alliance of the parents. That said, research on brain and
personality differences between Conservatives and Liberals is interesting. Some findings:Democrats had larger anterior cingulate cortexes,
which are associated with tolerance to uncertainty, while Republicans had larger
right amygdalas, which are associated with sensitivity to fear. (what is not
known is whether the differences caused the thinking or whether the thinking
caused the structural brain differences)Studies point toward
conservatives’ tendency to avoid something called self-harm, while
liberals avoid collective group harm. Liberals consistently score
higher on a personality measure called “openness to experience.Conservatives, in contrast, tend to be less open — less exploratory,
less in need of change — and more “conscientious,” a trait
that indicates they appreciate order and structure in their lives.
Interesting cause and effect assumptions.I lean liberal due to the
fact my Mother needed an aboration for medical reasons, and conservatives would
rather she had died and left me and my 6 brothers and SISTERS Motherless.I lean liberal because one of sisters was raped, and conservatives would
never allow her the choice to terminate that pregnancy.I lean
liberal because my Wife almost died in childbirth, and conservatives would
rather she died or her doctor go to prison, than allow them the right to choose
in the delivery room.I lean liberal because Conservatives do not
like contraceptives for women for any reason, even if it's for hormonal
balance and improved health.
@Truthseeker:"Democrats had larger anterior cingulate
cortexes.."They also have larger egos. Take Hollywood for
example... full of Democrats and egos."Liberals consistently
score higher on a personality measure called 'openness to
experience.'"That's right... they like to leap before
they look. Not a smart idea if the swimming pool is all but empty.
Doesn't seem to bother them. They'll address the problem (somehow) on
the way down.They like open borders so the poor of the world can
come and enjoy America's largess. They forget, if the entire world came
we'd start to look like them rather then our free and prosperous
America.They like to dispatch feti in the womb to reduce parental
duties which cuts into party time.They're open to gay marriages
because, after all, marriage is not for raising families... it's for fun
and for maximizing the legal benefits accruing to the married. "Conservatives, in contrast, tend to be less open — less
exploratory.."Conservatives look to the Founding Fathers (and
God) for direction.
To "Truthseeker" here are some other things to consider.Conservatives are the most generous group when helping the poor with their
time and money (e Conservatives Happier than Liberals? - Washington
Independant)Liberals are more likely to lie or cheat if it helps
them accomplish their goals. See World Values Survey titled "National
Cultural Values Survey". Liberals are over twice as likely to lie and cheat
than their conservative counterparts.Conservatives are the happiest
group out there (See Pew Research Center study on happiness. Conservatives
win)Conservatives are less racist than liberals (there goes the
"open to experience" argument, see "The new American dilemma: Racism
and racial resentment")Conservatives are more likely to study
both sides of an issue (there goes the idea of being less open, "Study:
Conservatives more likely to read opposing viewpoints than liberals" at
HotAir)It would appear that conservatives typically are kinder,
gentler than liberals and embody more of the proclaimed traits of liberals than
To "LDS Liberal" it is interesting that you lie about what conservatives
believe.If you look at most of the laws that Conservatives have been
pushing for the regulation of abortions, nearly all of them have exceptions for
rape, incest, or cases where the mother or child are in danger.
This survey is old news. Worn out long ago. I can't imagine why DN would
waste time and space publishing this.The article stated
"Malhotra and his co-author, Andrew Healy, contacted the study's
participants — more than 1,500 high school students — in 1965, and
continued to survey those same people over the course of several years. By the
time of the last survey, the participants were about 50 years old."The participants were born between 1945-51. They were raised during the
50's and 60's, a time of overwhelming resistance to anything liberal.
Women were predominantly housewives. Blacks were poor and sub-citizens.
Latinos were invisible. It was a white man's country. Those survey
participants were raised in a society that no longer exists.Fast
forward to this century...Today's teens are exposed to and influences by a
far different culture. DN, let's have some "modern studies"!
As any man with sisters can tell you, they tend to prevent their brothers from
growing up with a sense of self-importance, or an entitlement mentality.That's the reason men with sisters tend to be conservative, rather