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Ute, BYU football: Utah-BYU games not 'grandfathered' into Pac-12 schedule ... yet

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  • Alterego Harrisville, UT
    July 29, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    Scott doesn't respect the Utes enough to commit to anything yet.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    July 29, 2013 2:03 p.m.

    Blue sour grapes make such a sweet whine!

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    July 29, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    PAC 12 has now learned that Utah does not carry the state market, not even close. So now, they'll pretend to consider everything, then agree to grandfather BYU v. Utah. This one rivalry game will bring huge market revenue and exposure to the PAC 12. By now they've realized BYU touches every media market in every state in the West, especially California, Utah does not. Maybe the utes reach out to Wendover and south to Sugar House park, but not much further.

    You just can't ignore big brother.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    July 28, 2013 11:06 p.m.

    "They don't have to try and show anything. The utes have proved it over and over and over again on the field just how much better they are."

    You're right, they're so much better than BYU that they almost get within 10 spots behind them in the final rankings. They are clearly better!

    Navel Vet,

    BYU does not need Utah. 2014-15 will be proof that BYU does not need Utah. But let's check the comments during those seasons and I can guarantee that many comments will be from Ute "fans" trying to validate their team. As far as the "no conference wants BYU" claim, that has been proven to be a lie. Conferences have shown interest in BYU; you just choose to ignore it because it interferes with your idea of BYU being "unwanted".

  • That's A Good One Salt Lake City, UT
    July 28, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    Keep hanging your hat on the elite conference thing Navel. Since 5-7 and no bowl game is where reality got you last season.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 28, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    @byu joe

    "For you Utes who keep talking about dropping the BYU game...stop writing on the boards and stop caring about the game."

    Uh, I believe it is a right of Utah fans to write on local college football articles and voice their opinions, even if those opinions may differ from your own.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    July 28, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    byufanman:

    "As far as the utes go they will dewinde [sic] away in the PAC 10.2 sports wise. It's a good thing that u of u is a great medical institution. That will be the only notoriety they will receive from the PAC 10.2. And that's the ONLY reason why their in the PAC 10.2."

    Haha! Your tears are so very delicious!

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    July 28, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    @Riverton Cougie...."They HAVE to try to show how they are better than BYU."

    They don't have to try and show anything. The utes have proved it over and over and over again on the field just how much better they are. The Y would have to go on a winning streak over nearly a quarter century just to even things up. The way the last 10-15 years has looked I would say it's more likely that streak goes the other way has it has been 8 of 11, 4 of 5, 3 in a row etc.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 28, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    Chris B

    "Lets continue to disassociate ourselves from BYU..."

    says my delusional little sister who is so completely obsessed with BYU that she often posts 5 or 6 comments on BYU articles before a single BYU fan has even read the article.

    Your actions scream so loudly little sister, that we can't hear a word you're saying.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    July 28, 2013 7:27 a.m.

    Chris B: "We have moved above byu"

    If only you'd move above trolling articles about BYU.

  • BYU Joe MISSION VIEJO, CA
    July 27, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    For you Utes who keep talking about dropping the BYU game I have a serious suggestion. Stop writing on the boards and stop caring about the game. If Ute fans really don't care they won't even bother to visit the BYU boards, then they will stop talking and then maybe they will get their wish - no more BYU/Utah game.

    So please go away and stop talking about how Utah should drop the game. To you all I say - Whatever.

    Oh and also - forget the 2 for 1 talk. It is just lame.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2013 7:57 p.m.

    Lets continue to disassociate ourselves from byu

    Power conference teams don't maintain rivalries with non power conference teams.

    We have moved above byu. We don't want recruits thinking we are on their level

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 27, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    surf is up,

    Did that kid own you? On the field?

    And are you sure that you was on the "popular kids" team? Or did you just throw that in to cover yourself? lol.

    Go Utes,

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2013 5:42 p.m.

    FelisConcolor "Yet based on this article, it would appear that Mr. Scott is willing to make exceptions for BYU."
    No.

    Scott said "Basically there were some openings that came up as we looked at future calendars" He did not say "because it is BYU, we will open our calendar". BYU has nothing to do with the openings on some future PAC 12 calendars.

    During some (not all) future calendars, Utah will have the option to schedule a non-conference opponent late in the year. If Utah chooses to schedule BYU, it is Utah's choice, and if Utah chooses a former rival for that game then Scott thinks it is "terrific" (a word you changed to "beneficial").

    It would be nice if some old rivalries could be retained in all this realignment. I appreciate your hopefulness, but end-of-season Utah-BYU game is not coming back every year, just sporadically. His words are pretty clear when you don't twist them to mean something else.

  • Elk Hair Caddis Sandy, UT
    July 27, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    Great example of the pecking order in the PAC. Scott makes no comment when USC and Stanford schedule BYU. But when Utah schedules BYU, Scott throws down the gauntlet just to make sure Dr. Hill knows he (Scott) is in control of Utah's schedule and Dr. Hill better sit up pay attention.

    I wonder how long Utah is going to be allow itself to be forced into home games om Sunday, a rivalry with one of the worst teams in the nation (Colorado), and a smaller piece of the PAC TV pie.

    Its got to be humiliating.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    July 27, 2013 4:22 p.m.

    ekute:

    "This a Utah/Pac12 article"

    Um, no it's not -- not at least according to the Deseret News.

    If you click on the BYU subheading on the Sports page menu, this is the first article that comes up. And I know you do that all the time, based on how often you troll the comments on BYU articles.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    July 27, 2013 4:18 p.m.

    ekute:

    Call me when you have the moxie to actually beat USU; they're likely going to beat you again this year -- and by a much bigger margin than last time. Ute fans won't be able to claim it was a "lucky" victory this year.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    July 27, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    SoonerUte, MyPerspective:

    No, he doesn't mention BYU by name. But these statements are in response to questions about the BYU-Utah game. Just whom do you think Larry Scott is referring to, Boise State? (Not that the Utes would ever dare schedule the Broncos, given the results of their past two games against them).

    Read this sentence again:

    “Basically there were some openings that came up as we looked at future calendars that made sense for them to reinstate the rivalry game, which we think is terrific,”

    In this sentence Scott is discussing reinstating the November BYU-Utah game, which incidentally the PAC-12 thinks is a "terrific" idea.

    Which goes back to my original point: Ute fans have been claiming for quite some time now that the PAC-12 would NEVER shift their schedules to accommodate BYU, and that if BYU ever wanted to play Utah or any other PAC-12 team it would be on their terms only -- ie, early in the season

    Yet based on this article, it would appear that Mr. Scott is willing to make exceptions for BYU. Now why would he do that?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    July 27, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    "Utah no longer has anything to gain by playing their weak little brother to the south, and everything to lose."

    Quite the contrary. Judging by Utah fans' comments and actions after last year, Utah has everything to gain by playing BYU. Did you see how important that game was for Ute fans? Did you notice how many Utes validated their season simply because they beat BYU? If it weren't for the BYU win, Ute fans would have nothing. They HAVE to try to show how they are better than BYU. It seems many Ute fans' success depends on how they compare against BYU.

    All this talk of "getting over BYU" is just talk! The truth is, they need to believe they are better than BYU.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 27, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    eastcoastcoug,

    This a Utah/Pac12 article, but if it was a byu article we can still post because we own byu, and we have moved on, but we can come back and own byu any time. Hide, watch...believe.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    July 27, 2013 2:19 p.m.

    I would like to see the games played in November again. A lot of the ute fans seem to be ambivalent about it, and some just outright feel too superior although I'm not sure how they justify it.

    @ImaCaMan & GoRed: I knew a kid with your mentality in grade school. He rarely got picked to play on the popular kids' team. But, on the rare occasion he did get picked he immediately started disrespecting the kids on the other team-- embracing a sense of superiority he didn't deserve; even his friends.

    The kid rarely did well, almost never contributed to the success of the team (which I was usually on); but somehow he felt immediately entitled to sneer down his nose at the kids not picked onto his team-- most of whom were better players than him.

    You see. Just by being picked onto the popular kid's team he suddenly viewed himself as equivalent to an elite, and the others kids were mid-majors. It didn't matter to him that he was unable to show any merit for feeling that way.

    Kind of reminds me of somebody... but who?

  • Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UT
    July 27, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    The PAC-12 may claim that they are making an exception for storied rivalries (such as USC vs. Notre Dame, a game played yearly since the 1920s), yet how is the Stanford vs. Notre Dame rivalry game (besides some games before the 1990s, it has been played yearly since 1997) more deserving than the BYU vs Utah rivalry, aka the Holy War (also played yearly since the 1920s, with the exception of during WWII)?

    Since the PAC-12 (and apparently Utah as well) has relegated it to just another out-of-conference match-up, only rarely worthy of being played outside of the first few weeks of the college football season, a storied rivalry just as long-lived and heated as the USC-Notre Dame rivalry will slowly start to die following this year.

    Some fans may say that their team no longer needs the rivalry; yet isn't that part of the fun? I think it's rather unfortunate.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    July 27, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    Whoops, the PAC-12 Commish considers the BYU-Utah game is a "rivalry game" and says it's "terrific" that it's been reinstated. Looks like he believes there's something to be gained by he U playing the Y.

    I guess he's not reading the talking points the U sent him indicating they've moved on. Quick, someone remind Dr. Scott that the U's rivalry game is with Colorado.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    July 27, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    If U guys have really "moved on", then why the obsessive need to post on every BYU article? I'll believe it when I see it.

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    July 27, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    @Coug Independence

    "At least one team has the moxy to play BYU every year!"

    Getting temporarily dropped for Michigan has really hurt some feelings down south.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 27, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    cougar independence,

    Call me when byu has the moxy to beat Utah...or any quality opponent.

  • ImaCaMan Oceanside, CA
    July 27, 2013 11:43 a.m.

    Re: Cougar Independence

    "Well, with the news today that BYU and USU will play every year, it's good to know at least 1 team in the state of Utah has the moxy to play BYU every year".

    That's right. Two mid-majors playing each other with each having something to win. Utah doesn't need BYU and I would rather see them play teams such as the scheduled games with Michigan. There's nothing to prove by beating BYU and their having the stature that they do, there's no benefit. 8 out of 11, already dominating in in-state recruiting, the U has moved on. Keep dreaming and enjoy your independence.

  • Beaver Native Garland, UT
    July 27, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    Since I am from a rural area of the state and have no interest in the U of U, whether or not the BYU-Utah game occurs regularly is not of much importance to me, and a Pac-12 team probably would be better off not playing non-conference games with the same teams every year. However, the game is of high importance to a majority of the fan base at both schools. Playing every other year or so seems to make more sense for Utah, and the rivalry would continue for now. My prediction is that since Utah has joined the PAC and BYU is becoming a team with a worldwide fan base, the game will decline in importance, but it will continue on a sporadic basis.

    If BYU ever joins a conference, it will be more difficult for the rivalry game to continue on a regular basis.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 27, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    We need to drop the little brothers and let utah find their own games in NOvembe

  • byufanman west valley city, utah
    July 27, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    I'm looking forward to playing usu each year. I have a lot of respect for their football and basketball programs. As far as the utes go they will dewinde away in the PAC 10.2 sports wise. It's a good thing that u of u is a great medical institution. That will be the only notoriety they will receive from the PAC 10.2. And that's the ONLY reason why their in the PAC 10.2.

    Go cougs!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    FelisConcolor
    Here's the direct quotes from Scott...

    “We haven’t changed our fundamental policy that nonconference games going forward need to be the first three weeks,”

    “But because having these Notre Dame games for USC and Stanford is a high priority for us, we made a decision recently that we want to do that even if it opens up some other nonconference games later in the season.”

    “Basically there were some openings that came up as we looked at future calendars that made sense for them to reinstate the rivalry game, which we think is terrific,”

    “We’re not at the point where we’ve said it’s something that’s going to be grandfathered the way the Notre Dame rivalries (are), which go way back in our conference,” “But we’ll see. The thing about the football calendar is it’s an evolving thing and I don’t think anything is set in stone permanently.”

    As you can now see the references to byu are fill in by the DN. Keep chuckling, so are Utah fans!

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    The Independant Conference lets us play who we want.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 27, 2013 6:44 a.m.

    Hopefully the powers-that-be on the Hill will come to their senses and let the rivalry die. Utah no longer has anything to gain by playing their weak little brother to the south, and everything to lose.

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    July 27, 2013 12:51 a.m.

    Well, with the news today that BYU and USU will play every year, it's good to know at least 1 team in the state of Utah has the moxy to play BYU every year.

    Can't say that same thing for the little school on the hill.

    Go Cougars!

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    July 26, 2013 11:20 p.m.

    SoonerUte he did say that nothing was cast into concrete. Maybe after a decade Utah will be released from the PAC 12, who knows? Wouldn't that just drive a few of "U" trolls just crazy.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    July 26, 2013 9:19 p.m.

    In regards to the Direct TV deal

    Get er dun!!

    Do a one year contract, and get the games on nationally like every other real school does.

  • jazzlover Highland, UT
    July 26, 2013 7:55 p.m.

    L

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2013 7:42 p.m.

    "Yet now we see Dr. Scott mention BYU in the same breath as Notre Dame, and agree that scheduling BYU in November could be beneficial to the conference. "

    You must have a read a different (perhaps imaginary) version of the article. Dr. Scott doesn't mention BYU in any sentence where he mentioned Notre Dame, nor did he say that BYU-Utah in November would be "beneficial". In fact, none of Dr. Scott's quotes contain the word "BYU".

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    July 26, 2013 6:56 p.m.

    Even Larry Scott is selling out the DN Cougar-Haters. LOL

    What have been some of the main themes in these comments for the past year? Utah doesn't need BYU, they will never schedule BYU again, let alone agree to a November game, Larry Scott doesn't really care for BYU and thus will never allow them to play a PAC-12 in November.

    Yet now we see Dr. Scott mention BYU in the same breath as Notre Dame, and agree that scheduling BYU in November could be beneficial to the conference. Makes me chuckle.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    July 26, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    Hope it happens soon. It would be fun to see it in November every year!