Scott doesn't respect the Utes enough to commit to anything yet.
Blue sour grapes make such a sweet whine!
PAC 12 has now learned that Utah does not carry the state market, not even
close. So now, they'll pretend to consider everything, then agree to
grandfather BYU v. Utah. This one rivalry game will bring huge market revenue
and exposure to the PAC 12. By now they've realized BYU touches every media
market in every state in the West, especially California, Utah does not. Maybe
the utes reach out to Wendover and south to Sugar House park, but not much
further. You just can't ignore big brother.
"They don't have to try and show anything. The utes have proved it over
and over and over again on the field just how much better they are."You're right, they're so much better than BYU that they almost
get within 10 spots behind them in the final rankings. They are clearly
better!Navel Vet,BYU does not need Utah. 2014-15 will be
proof that BYU does not need Utah. But let's check the comments during
those seasons and I can guarantee that many comments will be from Ute
"fans" trying to validate their team. As far as the "no conference
wants BYU" claim, that has been proven to be a lie. Conferences have shown
interest in BYU; you just choose to ignore it because it interferes with your
idea of BYU being "unwanted".
Keep hanging your hat on the elite conference thing Navel. Since 5-7 and no bowl
game is where reality got you last season.
@byu joe"For you Utes who keep talking about dropping the BYU
game...stop writing on the boards and stop caring about the game."Uh, I believe it is a right of Utah fans to write on local college football
articles and voice their opinions, even if those opinions may differ from your
byufanman:"As far as the utes go they will dewinde [sic] away in
the PAC 10.2 sports wise. It's a good thing that u of u is a great medical
institution. That will be the only notoriety they will receive from the PAC
10.2. And that's the ONLY reason why their in the PAC 10.2."Haha! Your tears are so very delicious!
@Riverton Cougie...."They HAVE to try to show how they are better than
BYU."They don't have to try and show anything. The utes
have proved it over and over and over again on the field just how much better
they are. The Y would have to go on a winning streak over nearly a quarter
century just to even things up. The way the last 10-15 years has looked I would
say it's more likely that streak goes the other way has it has been 8 of
11, 4 of 5, 3 in a row etc.
Chris B"Lets continue to disassociate ourselves from
BYU..."says my delusional little sister who is so completely
obsessed with BYU that she often posts 5 or 6 comments on BYU articles before a
single BYU fan has even read the article.Your actions scream so
loudly little sister, that we can't hear a word you're saying.
Chris B: "We have moved above byu"If only you'd move
above trolling articles about BYU.
For you Utes who keep talking about dropping the BYU game I have a serious
suggestion. Stop writing on the boards and stop caring about the game. If Ute
fans really don't care they won't even bother to visit the BYU boards,
then they will stop talking and then maybe they will get their wish - no more
BYU/Utah game. So please go away and stop talking about how Utah
should drop the game. To you all I say - Whatever.Oh and also -
forget the 2 for 1 talk. It is just lame.
Lets continue to disassociate ourselves from byu Power conference
teams don't maintain rivalries with non power conference teams.We have moved above byu. We don't want recruits thinking we are on their
surf is up,Did that kid own you? On the field?And are
you sure that you was on the "popular kids" team? Or did you just throw
that in to cover yourself? lol.Go Utes,
FelisConcolor "Yet based on this article, it would appear that Mr. Scott is
willing to make exceptions for BYU."No.Scott said
"Basically there were some openings that came up as we looked at future
calendars" He did not say "because it is BYU, we will open our
calendar". BYU has nothing to do with the openings on some future PAC 12
calendars.During some (not all) future calendars, Utah will have the
option to schedule a non-conference opponent late in the year. If Utah chooses
to schedule BYU, it is Utah's choice, and if Utah chooses a former rival
for that game then Scott thinks it is "terrific" (a word you changed to
"beneficial").It would be nice if some old rivalries could
be retained in all this realignment. I appreciate your hopefulness, but
end-of-season Utah-BYU game is not coming back every year, just sporadically.
His words are pretty clear when you don't twist them to mean something
Great example of the pecking order in the PAC. Scott makes no comment when USC
and Stanford schedule BYU. But when Utah schedules BYU, Scott throws down the
gauntlet just to make sure Dr. Hill knows he (Scott) is in control of
Utah's schedule and Dr. Hill better sit up pay attention.I
wonder how long Utah is going to be allow itself to be forced into home games om
Sunday, a rivalry with one of the worst teams in the nation (Colorado), and a
smaller piece of the PAC TV pie.Its got to be humiliating.
ekute:"This a Utah/Pac12 article"Um, no
it's not -- not at least according to the Deseret News.If you
click on the BYU subheading on the Sports page menu, this is the first article
that comes up. And I know you do that all the time, based on how often you
troll the comments on BYU articles.
ekute:Call me when you have the moxie to actually beat USU;
they're likely going to beat you again this year -- and by a much bigger
margin than last time. Ute fans won't be able to claim it was a
"lucky" victory this year.
SoonerUte, MyPerspective:No, he doesn't mention BYU by name.
But these statements are in response to questions about the BYU-Utah game. Just
whom do you think Larry Scott is referring to, Boise State? (Not that the Utes
would ever dare schedule the Broncos, given the results of their past two games
against them).Read this sentence again:“Basically
there were some openings that came up as we looked at future calendars that made
sense for them to reinstate the rivalry game, which we think is terrific,”
In this sentence Scott is discussing reinstating the November
BYU-Utah game, which incidentally the PAC-12 thinks is a "terrific"
idea.Which goes back to my original point: Ute fans have been
claiming for quite some time now that the PAC-12 would NEVER shift their
schedules to accommodate BYU, and that if BYU ever wanted to play Utah or any
other PAC-12 team it would be on their terms only -- ie, early in the seasonYet based on this article, it would appear that Mr. Scott is willing to
make exceptions for BYU. Now why would he do that?
"Utah no longer has anything to gain by playing their weak little brother to
the south, and everything to lose."Quite the contrary. Judging
by Utah fans' comments and actions after last year, Utah has everything to
gain by playing BYU. Did you see how important that game was for Ute fans? Did
you notice how many Utes validated their season simply because they beat BYU? If
it weren't for the BYU win, Ute fans would have nothing. They HAVE to try
to show how they are better than BYU. It seems many Ute fans' success
depends on how they compare against BYU.All this talk of
"getting over BYU" is just talk! The truth is, they need to believe they
are better than BYU.
eastcoastcoug,This a Utah/Pac12 article, but if it was a byu article
we can still post because we own byu, and we have moved on, but we can come back
and own byu any time. Hide, watch...believe.
I would like to see the games played in November again. A lot of the ute fans
seem to be ambivalent about it, and some just outright feel too superior
although I'm not sure how they justify it. @ImaCaMan &
GoRed: I knew a kid with your mentality in grade school. He rarely got picked
to play on the popular kids' team. But, on the rare occasion he did get
picked he immediately started disrespecting the kids on the other team--
embracing a sense of superiority he didn't deserve; even his friends.The kid rarely did well, almost never contributed to the success of the
team (which I was usually on); but somehow he felt immediately entitled to sneer
down his nose at the kids not picked onto his team-- most of whom were better
players than him.You see. Just by being picked onto the popular
kid's team he suddenly viewed himself as equivalent to an elite, and the
others kids were mid-majors. It didn't matter to him that he was unable to
show any merit for feeling that way.Kind of reminds me of
somebody... but who?
The PAC-12 may claim that they are making an exception for storied rivalries
(such as USC vs. Notre Dame, a game played yearly since the 1920s), yet how is
the Stanford vs. Notre Dame rivalry game (besides some games before the 1990s,
it has been played yearly since 1997) more deserving than the BYU vs Utah
rivalry, aka the Holy War (also played yearly since the 1920s, with the
exception of during WWII)? Since the PAC-12 (and apparently Utah as
well) has relegated it to just another out-of-conference match-up, only rarely
worthy of being played outside of the first few weeks of the college football
season, a storied rivalry just as long-lived and heated as the USC-Notre Dame
rivalry will slowly start to die following this year.Some fans may
say that their team no longer needs the rivalry; yet isn't that part of the
fun? I think it's rather unfortunate.
Whoops, the PAC-12 Commish considers the BYU-Utah game is a "rivalry
game" and says it's "terrific" that it's been reinstated.
Looks like he believes there's something to be gained by he U playing the
Y. I guess he's not reading the talking points the U sent him
indicating they've moved on. Quick, someone remind Dr. Scott that the
U's rivalry game is with Colorado.
If U guys have really "moved on", then why the obsessive need to post on
every BYU article? I'll believe it when I see it.
@Coug Independence"At least one team has the moxy to play BYU
every year!"Getting temporarily dropped for Michigan has really
hurt some feelings down south.
cougar independence,Call me when byu has the moxy to beat Utah...or
any quality opponent.
Re: Cougar Independence"Well, with the news today that BYU and
USU will play every year, it's good to know at least 1 team in the state of
Utah has the moxy to play BYU every year".That's right.
Two mid-majors playing each other with each having something to win. Utah
doesn't need BYU and I would rather see them play teams such as the
scheduled games with Michigan. There's nothing to prove by beating BYU and
their having the stature that they do, there's no benefit. 8 out of 11,
already dominating in in-state recruiting, the U has moved on. Keep dreaming
and enjoy your independence.
Since I am from a rural area of the state and have no interest in the U of U,
whether or not the BYU-Utah game occurs regularly is not of much importance to
me, and a Pac-12 team probably would be better off not playing non-conference
games with the same teams every year. However, the game is of high importance
to a majority of the fan base at both schools. Playing every other year or so
seems to make more sense for Utah, and the rivalry would continue for now. My
prediction is that since Utah has joined the PAC and BYU is becoming a team with
a worldwide fan base, the game will decline in importance, but it will continue
on a sporadic basis. If BYU ever joins a conference, it will be
more difficult for the rivalry game to continue on a regular basis.
We need to drop the little brothers and let utah find their own games in NOvembe
I'm looking forward to playing usu each year. I have a lot of respect for
their football and basketball programs. As far as the utes go they will dewinde
away in the PAC 10.2 sports wise. It's a good thing that u of u is a great
medical institution. That will be the only notoriety they will receive from the
PAC 10.2. And that's the ONLY reason why their in the PAC 10.2.Go cougs!
FelisConcolorHere's the direct quotes from Scott...“We haven’t changed our fundamental policy that nonconference
games going forward need to be the first three weeks,” “But because having these Notre Dame games for USC and Stanford is a
high priority for us, we made a decision recently that we want to do that even
if it opens up some other nonconference games later in the season.”“Basically there were some openings that came up as we looked at
future calendars that made sense for them to reinstate the rivalry game, which
we think is terrific,” “We’re not at the point
where we’ve said it’s something that’s going to be
grandfathered the way the Notre Dame rivalries (are), which go way back in our
conference,” “But we’ll see. The thing about the football
calendar is it’s an evolving thing and I don’t think anything is set
in stone permanently.”As you can now see the references to byu
are fill in by the DN. Keep chuckling, so are Utah fans!
The Independant Conference lets us play who we want.
Hopefully the powers-that-be on the Hill will come to their senses and let the
rivalry die. Utah no longer has anything to gain by playing their weak little
brother to the south, and everything to lose.
Well, with the news today that BYU and USU will play every year, it's good
to know at least 1 team in the state of Utah has the moxy to play BYU every
year.Can't say that same thing for the little school on the
hill. Go Cougars!
SoonerUte he did say that nothing was cast into concrete. Maybe after a decade
Utah will be released from the PAC 12, who knows? Wouldn't that just drive
a few of "U" trolls just crazy.
In regards to the Direct TV dealGet er dun!!Do a one
year contract, and get the games on nationally like every other real school
"Yet now we see Dr. Scott mention BYU in the same breath as Notre Dame, and
agree that scheduling BYU in November could be beneficial to the conference.
"You must have a read a different (perhaps imaginary) version of
the article. Dr. Scott doesn't mention BYU in any sentence where he
mentioned Notre Dame, nor did he say that BYU-Utah in November would be
"beneficial". In fact, none of Dr. Scott's quotes contain the word
Even Larry Scott is selling out the DN Cougar-Haters. LOLWhat have
been some of the main themes in these comments for the past year? Utah
doesn't need BYU, they will never schedule BYU again, let alone agree to a
November game, Larry Scott doesn't really care for BYU and thus will never
allow them to play a PAC-12 in November.Yet now we see Dr. Scott
mention BYU in the same breath as Notre Dame, and agree that scheduling BYU in
November could be beneficial to the conference. Makes me chuckle.
Hope it happens soon. It would be fun to see it in November every year!