5th in the south is equal to 10th in the pac... mark it down!It is
better to win in the MWC than lose in the pac.Go Aggies!
That is ridiculous.I think the winner of the Pac 12 south will have
2-3 losses, as they have the past couple years.I think this is the
year we "arrive" in the Pac 12.We'll go 8-4 and be in
contention for the Pac 12 South Crown(and subsequent Pac 12 title game and Rose
Bowl) within the last week or two of the season.I think anyone but
Colorado has a chance to win this thing.Go Utes!
Mark this down.Utah will finish 3rd or better in the South, and will
SPLIT(2-2) the games against Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, and USC.
Trolls,I have just one questions:Any big conferences
call you guys lately about joining?No?LOL!Long Live the Pac 12!
They should put Utah in North division....just for fun!
Ify Sofa,Congratulations on your big win over Utah last year.YOu guys already planning on storming the field again next time it
happens, in 2030?
Like I have been saying for two years now; The PAC does not recognize Utah as a
relevant participant. Trust me, I work for a PAC school in the athletics
department. Utah is just there to pad the big boy's w/l records. Even
more true with basketball. Chris, how is your PAC 11+u membership feeling
Pipe dreams Crissy. Like someone said the other day; You can out lipstick on a
pig but it is still a pig.
"After being picked to finish second in the South Division in their first
two seasons in the Pac-12, they’re tabbed to finish fifth in this
season’s preseason media poll — ahead of Colorado..."The honeymoon is over for Utah and the media are finally realizing that the
Utes are all talk, but no walk, when it comes to being a PAC contender.Luckily, the Utes share the PAC South will fellow basement dweller
Colorado.The Pillow Fight in the Rockies is becoming an
"epic" event in PAC history. LOL!
Chrissy,Nor ridiculous. It reality from people in the know. Get used to
it buddy. This is what the future hold for the utsies. Enjoy your membership.
I watched the ESPN special last night on the PAC 11+u and the utes were not even
mentioned. How sad. You could always be a BYU fan since they go to bowl games
and receive tons of national attention AND play on TV each week.
"We'll go 8-4 and be in contention for the Pac 12 South Crown(and
subsequent Pac 12 title game and Rose Bowl) within the last week or two of the
season."bwaaaahaha!The truth is, you'll be
lucky to finish 4-8 and you'll out of conference contention by early
October.If you're lucky, you'll sneak past Colorado to
avoid the PAC basement.
Frankly 5th might be to high.
Chris, in the words of Doug Wright, "Are you delusional?"Just getting an invite doesn't make you an upper-level performer.
Someone has to be at the bottom of the conference and of course it's
"U" and will continue to be "U".Picking Colorado
last was a little bones of kindness tossed out for the Utes, who have lost to
Colorado in SLC so maybe Utah will be #6. Must feel awfully good to be fighting
for the #5 spot out-of-six teams, huh? That's the PAC 12 for you.How is Utah going to get that split----are one of their opponents going to
forfeit the game?LOL!!
Not sure the utes will finish ahead of Colorado.After a beating from
the Aggies, and Cougars, there won't be much gas left in the tank.
"...be in contention for the Pac 12 South Crown(and subsequent Pac 12 title
game and Rose Bowl)"Ha-ha-ha!!! Ha-ha-ha!!! Ha-ha-ha!!!Mark it down (the laughter, that is).I knew it was just a
matter of time before you started crowing about the Rose Bowl again. That, my
friend, is really hilarious. How was your bowl last year;did you score 100 at
Orchard Lanes?You can't make this stuff up; too funny!! Thanks
for providing comic relief today, truly.
this just in... utes jump ahead of BYU as the most hated team, but stay in the
cellar of the pac
Mark it Down!The only big conference in College Football is the SEC
with their continued domination of the BCS championship game. No
other conference comes close.
uts you have to win to storm a field... let us know when that happens will ya?
Thank goodness for Colorado.
Utah St - lossWeber St - winOregon St - lossat BYU - lossUCLA - lossStanford - lossat Arizona - lossat USC - lossArizona St - lossat Oregon - lossat WSU - tossupColorado -
tossupYep; if the Utes split their tossups and pull a conference
upset somewhere, 2 conference wins are possible. 5th/6th in the PAC South could
hang in the balance Thanksgiving weekend.Overall, 3-9 likely, with
an outside chance at 4-8. Either way, U can count on being home for the
Chrissy, we've arrived alright. We've settled in and have all our
furniture arranged in the PAC basement apartment. Wazzu is thrilled to welcome
us and Colorado as their replacements.While it's extremely
comical that your fantasy includes the PAC championship game and the Rose Bowl
this year the ultimate laugher is when you call out Ifel Of'a-sofa with a
'storming the field' reference after you did it three times against
lowly independent BYU that your only 2 friends refer to as WAC level.
Haven't you 'marked down' the Rose Bowl for 3 years now? Utah
football has never been further from the Rose Bowl than it is right now. Mark
that down sister.
Chris BI honestly think that "within the last week of two of the
season" you'll be wondering how good your basketball team is going to
be for the upcoming season and what BCS bowl games you plan on watching from the
comfort of your couch.
Hilarious! Twenty comments so far and all but one poster is dogging
the Utes. Obsession with everything Utes is the true form of flattery, er uh,
jealousy. Guess 8 of 11 will do that.
PAC 10.2 members were upset the 9-game conference schedule was too tough until
they remembered Utah and Colorado were included in the schedule. To
those reading who may be considering an offer to play for the utes, consider the
utes don't go to bowl games anymore and outside of games with BYU and games
against Oregon and 1 or 2 other PAC 10.2 teams, their games won't be
Superior programs are always hated and feared by their inferior neighbors.Go Utes.
What the heck? or should I say Oh my heck? did anyone else notice that on
College football today on espn yesterday they predicted the finish for the Pac
12 southern division and discussed every team EXCEPT Utah?
We're going to smoke Colorado this year! I'll bet my single-wide on
Typical postings on a Utah story: A bunch of posts by Chris B and an avalanche
of troller responses to his posts.Entertainment at it's
Man, there are more Trolls on here than Ute fans. I can't wait to see who
walks the walk, instead of talking the talk...Can't wait for
August 29th! Tailgates and Stadium Lights!! Better Than CHRISTMAS!!!!
I like how they picked ASU to win the south. I thought that might be a bit high
but then remembered we don't play Oregon or Stanford. That would be to our
benefit. I hope no Utah fans have the delusion that they are going to beat us
again. They say it every year and the two times we've played ASU came out
on top (quite easily last year I might add).
Neither BYU or Utah will be great until both fan bases grow up. The rest of the
nation laughs at the way fans act in this state.Every year it is
look how good we are and how bad the other one is. The fact is neither team will
have a stellar year this year. I think both will struggle to be bowl
eligible.Looking at each schedule I see Utah best at 6 & 6. BYU
best hope 7 & 5. I think Utah will beat BYU again.Utah will be
better on offence but weaker on defense. BYU will only be slightly better
offensively but much worse on defense. I really don't think either goes to
a bowl game though.
I think we are piling it on the Utes. I honestly think this year the Utes will
have a special performance and beat ONE team in conference play that have a
winning record this year. The most likely good PAC12 team for the Utes to beat
will be Arizona State only because the Utes have a bye the week before.Utah will beat either Colorado or Washington State.Weber State will be
the Utes best win on the schedule.The Utes have at least three wins
if not four on the schedule.6 wins will be an incredible year for
the Utes5 wins THIS year is over-achieving4 wins is expected
Just a good, ole fashion roasting. The whole finished 5th in the P12-South just
started the show. No animosity or jealously, just fun at Chris B and his
"Mark it Down(s)".
Haha. Utah jist has not idea how bad they have it. Thy probably haven't
ever won a good team.
Come on guys. Let's ease up a bit. The Utah fans already feel bad enough
that they are in the basement of their beloved conference. Let's show them
some love, especially Chris B.
Utah St - winWeber St - winOregon St - winat BYU - winUCLA - winStanford - winat Arizona - lossat USC - winArizona St - winat Oregon - lossat WSU - winColorado - win
Yes BYU fans we could be a bottom feeder this year, but still it could be
worse:BYU finished 5th in the MWC in 2010 with a future Heisman QB
who now plays in Kansas. IMO game one will show if DE and Wilson can
turn the offense around. If we can improve to a top 40-50 offense I
think that's a big improvement. If so look for a 7-5 season. If not then a 3 win season against three cupcakes: BYU, Weber State, Colorado
uteology,The national and PAC experts respectfully disagree with you.
Maybe they should have consulted you before making any predictions. Like someone said earlier about the lipstick, keep painting the pig. When you
run out I will send the Mary Kay lady over so you can reorder. Would you like
Crimson a powder-puff pink?
Funny how here in Pac-10.2 country I have to consistently remind people that the
Utes are in the same conference. I find it interesting how many of them call the
Utes a MWC team. I guess if you look like, play like, and whine like the little
guy, then maybe in fact you are the little guy in the big conference. Sorry to
break it to ya Utes.
CAPT TayDon't bet the ranch on it.The Utes will be
alot closer to 3-9 than they'll be to 9-3.---------UteologyIt's going to be so delicious watching the Utes being
destroyed by a "cupcake" on September 21st.
Funny to see byu fans attacking Utah football because the Utes have owned them
in the past three, five, ten, fifteen and all time series. So if Utah is the
doormat of the PAC 12 with no respect, does that make byu the independent dirt
under the doormat? LOL! What does that say about their sorry little program?
Perhaps it's because nobody wants them in their conference? Of course they
can always brag about winning eight games and having played in a tier three bowl
game. After all they played six patsies and only lost to the four of the five
decent teams on their schedule.
Down underSalt Lake City, UTuteology,The national and
PAC experts respectfully disagree with you. Maybe they should have consulted you
before making any predictions.Like someone said earlier about the
lipstick, keep painting the pig. When you run out I will send the Mary Kay lady
over so you can reorder. Would you like Crimson a powder-puff pink?-----------It seems you know more about lady products so I will
let you decide.The national PAC experts had Utah projected #2 in the
South and we finished #5th in 2011.I will wait to make my judgement
until game 2. You are free to do whatever you like.
silent stalker"So if Utah is the doormat of the PAC 12 with no
respect, does that make BYU...?Utah's fortunes have very little
affect on BYU. The Cougars remain a perennial Top 25 team with a great
nationwide fan base and continued national respect, as proven by the numerous
national individual award watch lists BYU players appeared on.A
couple of fluke wins still leaves U a flash-in-the-pan program with a couple of
great seasons, and very little before or since. In truth, except for receiving a
bigger conference pay check, you're right back to where you were 30 years
ago in the WAC. A conference also ran, with BYU as your bowl game.
skywalkerPalo Alto, CAsilent stalker""So if Utah
is the doormat of the PAC 12 with no respect, does that make BYU...?Utah's fortunes have very little affect on BYU. The Cougars remain a
perennial Top 25 team with a great nationwide fan base and continued national
respect, as proven by the numerous national individual award watch lists BYU
players appeared on.A couple of fluke wins still leaves U a
flash-in-the-pan program with a couple of great seasons, and very little before
or since. In truth, except for receiving a bigger conference pay check,
you're right back to where you were 30 years ago in the WAC. A conference
also ran, with BYU as your bowl game."I like your comparisons to
the utah 30 years ago except utah has ruled you the last 13 years, we are in a
power conference and you are not, our recruiting is better than byU's by a
lot, and if byU is our bowl game then why did we decide not to schedule you the
next two years?
I would call it like this:For sure wins (5)Utah State, Weber
State, BYU, Washington State, ColoradoWA St. and Colorado have major
problems. Weber St. does not have the athletes to compete. USU will bring a good
game but will lose at home. BYU – this is like a home game for Utah. Same
results as the last three yearsProbable wins (2)Oregon State,
ArizonaThese were games Utah should have won last year but did not make
the plays. I would expect Utah to make the plays this year.Probable
losses (2)ASU, OregonOregon is better than Utah and Utah plays them
on the road. ASU always plays their best game of the year against Utah and they
have talent.Could go either way (win at least 1 maybe 2)UCLA,
Stanford, USCMost likely win is UCLA. Utah has them at home and nearly
beat them on the road last year. USC will be down this year but Utah plays them
on the road. Stanford is not the team it has been the last few years and Utah
has them at home.8-4 or 9-3
I'd predict 5th, even as a Ute student. I mean really, consider the final
Sagarin rankings from last season.28 ASU31 UCLA 33 USC44
UA61 UofU155 CUEven if Utah is better next year based on
things like presumably having a healthy starting QB all year, which team ahead
of it is really expected to be any worse next year? Utah has plenty of upside
with this prediction (it's easier seeing them 2nd in the division than 6th)
but 5th is a pretty rational prediction based on the competition. One could
argue that one of the four ahead of them is liable to be below expectations but
since we don't know which one that is yet predicting it isn't all that
logical. I guess the way to say it is that if we ran a bunch of simulations of
the conference it might be something likeAverage finish in
division:UCLA 2.1Arizona State 2.7USC 2.9Arizona 3.6Utah 4.1Colorado 5.6Obviously, I made up those numbers, the
point is that there's margin of error in predictions and understanding
uncertainty is critical.
Oh I'm an idiot... the article has poll numbers for me to use for average
rankings... 1. UCLA (12) — 130 2. Arizona State (9)
— 124 3. USC (4) — 113 4. Arizona — 73
5. UTAH — 58 6. Colorado — 27Average rating:UCLA: 1.80ASU: 2.04USC: 2.48Arizona: 4.08Utah: 4.68Colorado: 5.92
I'll withhold my opinion till after the Weber game.Weber 42Utah 17
Hilarious how all these Agg fans come on here like they own us or something. You
guys barely beat us in overtime at your place last year.People gonna
be mighty scurred in Logan-town when their team comes into SLC all full of
themselves, and leaves with their tails between their legs. Eyes will be opened
around the country, and tears will be shed.
Amazing how the Cougar trolls forget that Utah has been the superior team for
the past decade, winning 3 of the last 4, 5 of the last 6, and 8 of the last 11
games. The margin of victory for the Utes has been between 1 and 44 points,
with three games being more than 20 ponts. The margin of victory for BYU? 2 to
7 points.So trash the Utes as much as you like, but the fact remains
Utah is the superior program. So given that you think Utah is so horrible, how
does the rest of the Pac-12 view the Cougars (losers of 8 of 11 to the Utes)?
Enjoy your independence.
The Ute players are loving the hate right now. Back a dog into a corner and its
going to bite.
Amazing how the Ute forget that all they have is the last decade. What did the
Utes accomplish before 2002 and have have they done since 2010? The opening game
for the Utes this year is on a TV channel that doesn't yet exist!It is fun and easy to trash the Utes because we know that the Utes had a great
few years, but that is about it. You guys will never be able to compete in the
Pac-12, like the Minnesota's and Iowa States of the big conferences (I
would say Kansas, but they play basketball). You have one of the smallest
stadiums and one of the smallest athletic budgets of the so-called power
conferences, you can't compare. The argument on recruiting is what KWhitt
throws out there to keep the admin off his back and to buy his job a couple more
years, in reality everybody's recruiting has gotten better, with more and
better talent and TV exposure. Utes lost a TON of lettermen last year, accept it
or not, but this is a rebuilding year for the Utes. Rebuilding they may never
Come on Ute fans we have no right to be arrogant. Sure we beat BYU every year
but that's not really making a statement now is it? Let's shut our
mouths and let the chips fall where they may. As we battle week in and week out
in an actual conference on the national stage we can bask in the glory of being
relevant to Mormons and Non-Mormons alike. All the while being comforted by the
hot air blowing at us from the south.On a serious note BYU was
picked to be #1 in their conference today.Good for you BYU good for
@RBN"but the fact remains Utah is the superior program."If we look at the average final Sagarin ranking for both teams over the past
ten years you get something like BYU: 33 Utah: 35 which is close enough that
it's basically a tie (Utah has the best and worst years of the 10 for
bpack88Utah has finished with worse records and lower rankings in 5
of 8 seasons during the Bronco/Kyle era.AP/Coaches/Sagarin Team
Record2005 unranked/#55 BYU(6-6) less than unranked/#51 Utah(7-5)2006 #16/#15/#19 BYU(11-2) GREATER THAN unranked/#54 Utah(8-5)2007
#14/#15/#17 BYU(11-2) GREATER THAN unranked/#34 Utah(9-4)2008 #25/#21/#32
BYU(10-3) less than #4/#5/#4 Utah(13-0)2009 #12/#12/#15 BYU(11-2) GREATER
THAN #18/#18/#24 Utah(10-3)2010 unranked/#45 BYU(7-6) less than ur/#23/#26
Utah(10-3)2011 ur/#25/#34 BYU(10-3) GREATER THAN unranked/#39 Utah(8-5)2012 unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) GREATER THAN unranked/#61 Utah(5-7)Top
25 RankingsBronco 5Kyle 4Top 15 RankingsBronco
3Kyle 110+ Win SeasonsBronco 5Kyle 3Conference ChampionshipsBronco 2Kyle 1BowlsBronco 8Kyle 7Overall RecordBronco 74-29Kyle
70-32Kyle's had one undefeated season and one losing season.Bronco's had three Top 15 finishes and no losing seasons.Advantage: BYU/Bronco
RBNAmazing how the kids on the hill think that one game makes a
season.13 of the last 16 games in the BYU-Utah series have been
decided by a touchdown or less in the closing minutes or in overtime.Only a delusional Utah fan would claim that proves any sort of superiority,
especially when Utah has been worse than BYU in record and ranking for most of
the Bronco/Kyle era.
Andrewute1,Except that the Utes have no teeth to bite. Now USC, Stanford,
Ucla, Arizona, Ariz. St, Oregon, Washington, Washington St (this year) and
Oregon St., they have teeth. You are gonna feel the hurt this year so better
put some padding on the old rear end. Maybe some more pink lipstick will also
Uteology,Nope. I am not a lipstick expert. But I think pink suits Utes
the best. When they graduate then they will be able to wear Royal Blue; but
they will still be the pig of he PAC 11+u south.
atl134Average Sagarin Rankings:Utah fans like to use the
bcs era or their first bcs busting season as a starting pointing. I prefer
starting "recent history" with BYU's Cotton Bowl win, which, in
addition to 2001, helped open the door for the Utes to crack the bcs party.Average Sagarin Ratings Since 1996BYU 40.5Utah 41.9Last 15BYU 40.7Utah 39.7Last 10BYU 35.2Utah 32.3Last 5BYU 30.4Utah 31.0A near
statistical dead heat for the last 17 years, with Utah winning 9 of 17, but BYU
finishing ahead of Utah in the rankings 10 of 17. BYU winning more games 143-73
to 139-67, but Utah having a slightly better winning percentage 67% to 66%.The recent "superiority" that Utah fans claim, simply does not
"Whittingham not too concerned over 5th-place prediction..."Why should he be concerned or upset? Even Kyle is starting to accept where
Utah really fits in the PAC 12 pecking order. Besides, Kyle isn't a good
front runner - see 2009, when the Utes were "on the verge" of winning a
NC, before TCU, or 2011, when the Utes had a PAC South all locked up, before
Colorado.Kyle prefers sneaking up on foes in perfect storm seasons,
like 2008. Unfortunately for U, he's just as likely to lay an egg, as in
@bpack88,Your comment that Utah is "right back to where you were
30 years ago in the WAC" couldn't be more wrong. Evidence: 8-3
against BYU over the last 11 years. As I recall, BYU was winning most games 30
years ago. Also, nice effort to minimize membership in a power
conference. Unfortunately, your argument holds no water. @atlSagarin ratings over last 10 years? Really? When you have head to head
games you want to look at Sagarin ratings? Please.
Sports is such a good way to get the mind of daily routines.
Rockwell and scenic view = same person
RBNyou are right I was quoting a kool aid drinker and being sarcastic at
RBNWhen you have entire seasons and ratings to compare, you want to
limit comparisons to single games. Seriously?Was UNLV(2-10) BETTER
than Utah(9-4)? Not just for that game, but for the entire season.Was Colorado(3-10) BETTER than Utah(8-5)? Not just for that game, but for the
entire season.The exact same standard applies when comparing BYU and
@Rockwell:Except for the win loss column recently. Recent win loss
column (U vs Y) is a much better indicator of future success than bringing in a
40 or 50 year average.8 out of the last 11. Tears will
be shed when that becomes 9 out of the last 12.
clehman"Recent win loss column (U vs Y) is a much better
indicator of future success than bringing in a 40 or 50 year average."Not really. It's far more likely that BYU will be ranked and play
in a bowl this season, than Utah, regardless of the outcome of the game on
September 21st, which incidentally, will be a BYU victory.Before
1965, BYU had never won a conference championship or been ranked; Utah had won
21, including their 1st WAC championship and 1st Top 20 finish (in 1964).By the time the Utes won their next conference championship and cracked
the AP poll for the very first time, BYU had won 17 conference championships and
had been ranked in the final AP poll ELEVEN times.As they say in the
investment world:Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
I like the position the Utes are in. I think they will be taken lightly this
year and teams will pay.The cougs however will be out to avenge the
last 3 losses to their older brother. Too bad they are going to have to wait for
at least a few more years to feel the thrill of victory against their hated
rival.Love PAC 12 Football!Go Utes!
BYU will finish 1st in the Independant Conference.
utahcountyuteAs usual, our friends on the hill are wildly
inconsistent in their predictions; Utah's only chance to beat most teams is
to sneak up on them, while the Utes can brashly take on BYU without breaking a
sweat.Prepare to be bitterly disappointed on both predictions.
It's readily apparent that the Utes are completely overlooking at least
half the teams on their schedule - Utah State, Weber State, BYU, Washington
State, and Colorado.
Yeah - you can tell the Utes are completely overlooking all those opponents
because Chris B and ekeute and RBN are too optimistic. I'm sure
Whittingham and the actual football players follow the lead of the article
Ok Cougar and Aggie fans here are the cold hard facts: Utah has been great over
the past ten years, and is deserving of their invite to the PAC. BYU has been
good(not great), going 83-43 with their best win in the Vegas bowl. Utah State
has had 2 years with winning records going 41-79. With their best win in the
Potato BowlUtah last ten years 92 wins 34 losses 8-1 in bowl games03
10-2 -Liberty Bowl Champions04 12-0 -BCS Fiesta Bowl Champions05 7-5- Emerald Bowl Champions06 8-5- Armed forces Bowl
champions07 9-4 Poinsettia Bowl Champions08 13-0 BCS Sugar
Bowl Champions09 10-3 Poinsettia Bowl Champions10 10-3 loss
to Boise in Vegas bowl11 8-5 Sun Bowl Champions (pac 12 conf)12
5-7 did not qualify (pac 12 conf)What team has the best program in the
state? Clearly Utah. Utah has had one down year in ten...TEN! With the new
facilities and the quality of recruiting Utah will continue to widen the gap
over BYU and USU.
BYU fans,It's only a pre-season prediction. It means nothing.
You guys take too much stock in pre-season polls and predictions which mean
absolutely nothing. If these polls meant anything, then you would award
yourselves national champs every year. Unfortunately for you guys, though, you
actually have to play your games. Then reality sets in, and you will again
stumble through a mediocre season, where you beat the bad WAC teams and get
beaten by the good teams, including Utah. Again.
I can understand why coach whitt isn't concerned about being in 5th place
in his division - that's the utes comfy spot. It will always be a battle
between the utes and Colorado for that coveted spot. Better 5th than 6th! Utah
and Colorado will never ever get the talent that the west coast or Arizona teams
get. Um let me see USC or Utah. PLEASE!!! Go cougs!!
Generally, I apologize for my fellow BYU fans who have come here wallowing in
the U's predicted misery this season. I LIKE coach Whit and the U football
team, respect them, and look forward to my team defeating them. I really do
hope the U surprises a few teams this year and finishes above expectations.But I gotta take a shot at this:clehmanSandy, UT"Hilarious how all these Agg fans come on here like they own us or
something. You guys barely beat us in overtime at your place last year.People gonna be mighty scurred in Logan-town when their team comes into SLC
all full of themselves, and leaves with their tails between their legs. Eyes
will be opened around the country, and tears will be shed."The
irony speaks for itself.
clehmanSandy, UT"Except for the win loss column recently.
Recent win loss column (U vs Y) is a much better indicator of future success
than bringing in a 40 or 50 year average."I hate to call you out
again, because I don't recall ever seeing you on the Y side trolling, but
this statement, too, warrants rebuttal. Based on the results of the brutal
thrashing Utah administered two years ago, at LES no less, Utah fans were
predicting a total humiliation at your house for BYU last year.U
know what they say about the light at the end of the tunnel? For one of us,
September can't come soon enough and the other will just wish September
would go away. Time will tell, though, not history.
Ok Utes - Show your pride and pull out the PAC11+u flags! Better to be part of
the PAC11+u and lose than anywhere else and win - a common sentiment amongst
Utes now that is absolutely hilarious! Only in SLC!
The Utes may surprise some teams. 8-4 is not out of the question + a bowl win.
That is my opinion for the upcoming campaign in 2013.
Hey, it doesn't matter what your record is as long as everyone can put
PAC-12 stickers in the back window of their cars, right?
Another football article and the same tired comments from a lot of BYU trolls.
Do you even read the article before making your posts?I like the
attitude Whit has this year. We may be a year away from winning a reasonable
number of conference games and have an extremely difficult schedule. I think
the Utes will make some progress this year and see a number of players develop -
QB, LB, DB positions are all very young and need to grow up quickly to generate
wins.Realistic goals for the year would be to win all 3 in state
games and 3 conference games to qualify for a bowl. Record could be anywhere
from 2 to 8 wins, likely coming in with about 5 at the end of the year. Love to
see the team finish above .500 and then go into next year battling for the top
spot in the division.
Well, utah doesn't have the moxy to play BYU every year, so I'm
wondering what Utah fans will do when they go 4-8 or 3-9 over the next 3 years
and don't have BYU on their schedule? At least Utah State had
the moxy to play BYU every year. Can't say the same for the little school
up on the hill. We know one thing for sure: BYU will play anybody,
anywhere, anytime. Utah, afraid of losing to their rival and doesn't even
want to step on the field with them. Says a lot about the character and courage
of those administrators, coaches, fans, and students at the little school on the
hill. Go Cougars!
BluedevilUteSorry to burst your crimson-colored bubble, but here are
the REAL cold hard facts:Record and Average Sagarin RankingsLast 10 YearsBYU 83-43, 35.2Utah 92-34, 32.3Bronco/Kyle eraBYU 74-29, 30.4Utah 70-32, 36.8Last 5
YearsBYU 46-19, 30.4Utah 46-18, 31.0It's clear that
apart from a couple of great seasons in 2004 and 2008, that overall, BYU has
been gaining on the Utes since the Crowton era, and BYU is slowly pulling ahead
of the Utes.Since 2008 BYU is 36-16, 30.0 Sagarin
average, has beaten two Top 25 teams, #18/#18 Utah and #16/#17 Utah State, is
4-0 in bowls, and has finished #12/#12 and ur/#25 in the polls.Utah
is 33-18, 37.5 Sagarin average, has beaten one Top 25 team, ur/#25 BYU, is 2-1
in bowls, and has finished #18/#18 and ur/#23 in the polls.Sagarin
Rankings since 2008BYU 15, 45, 34, 26Utah 24, 26, 39, 61BYU has finished with a better record and higher ranking 3 of the last 4
Look I can do it too:Virginia-lossTexas-lossUtah-lossWho the deuce is Middle Tennessee?-winUtah St.-lossGeorgia
Tech-lossHouston-toss upBoise St.-lossWisconsin-lossIdaho St.? Really?...-winNotre Dame- lossNevada-toss upWow that was easy, I should become an analyst.
@Cougar Independence"We know one thing for sure: BYU will play
anybody, anywhere, anytime"Unless that school is Utah State. You
are aware that BYU did not play USU in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2007. In addition
the last time the game was held in Logan was 2010, a two-for-one deal in favor
of BYU. Now since you stated "At least Utah State had the moxy to play BYU
every year," I can only conclude that the years there were no games with
Utah State or not home/home was an unwillingness on the part of BYU. However, it is nice to see that an adjustment has been made in the 2015
schedule changing the originally scheduled game with USU from Oct 2 in
Provo,(which once again would have made it a two-for-one), to Nov 28 in Logan.
On a side note, Utah should look at raising their strength of schedule by
replacing BYU games with games against Snow College
@ Ute MonkeySo will Utah still have a 5-7 record if they played Snow
College? No Bowls.
@ Whatsnu Did we mention Whittingham as Coach of the Year 2008 ?
Whit doesn't care if he's ranked 7th or 12th? Does he even realize
that the ranking is 5th out of the 6 teams in his division? Maybe he
thought the ranking was 5th out of 12. No wonder he's not alarmed. He
doesn't have a clue.
It's clear that the only thing you can count on pre-season are BYU trollers
and NC predictions. The silence will be deafening when Utah wins their 6th game
this year, but it will be sweet.
I have suspended my directv service, you can for up to six months. After reading
this ariicle I am going to call them back and tell them I am not paying them
again until they get the Pac-12 network. ( I still have 8 months on my contract)
They have voided my contract by not providing a complete sports programming
package and unless they get the pac-12 network by the beginning of the season I
will switch to Dish or Comcast and be done with them. I do not have my payment
automatically taken from my account so I can just stop sending them payments.
Chris, I've been marking down your predictions and they are rarely correct.
I think most, if not all, are wishful thinking with no factual basis.
Stormcloud"Did we mention Whittingham as Coach of the Year 2008
?"Whittingham had one great year, in 2008,...and
very little before or since.Bronco has more bowls, more Top 25
finishes, more Top 15 finishes, more 10-win seasons, more conference
championships, more wins, and fewer losses.Kyle has more losses to
10-loss teams, more losses to conference bottom dwellers, and more losses to
teams with losing records.Bottom line:Bronco's
average Sagarin ranking during the last 8 years: 30.4 (and rising)Kyle's average Sagarin ranking during the last 8 years: 36.8 (and
falling)Face it, Kyle's flash-in-the-pan success is fading.
@Chris B"I think this is the year we "arrive" in the Pac
12.We'll go 8-4 and be in contention for the Pac 12 South
Crown(and subsequent Pac 12 title game and Rose Bowl"Hahaha...you know how to tell when you're close to the start of fall
practices? Chris B starts proclaiming pre-season Rose Bowl championships. Mark it down Chris, that's ridiculous.
@ekute"Superior programs are always..."....finishing
next to last in their conference. Note to ekute: Superior programs need to win games to be considered superior.
Superior to byu. On the field.
sportsfan,Utah owns byu.Kyle owns bronco.Face it.On the field.
@goredAnd recruit rankings are pre career guesses yet you and the
other utah "fans" around here act as if they are scripture.LOL!
ekuteFace it, the last shred of Ute superiority ends this coming
season. BYU already owns Utah in National Championships, Heisman Trophies,
National Hall of Fame Players, National Rankings, National Individual Awards,
WAC/MWC Championships, and head-to-head during the last half century.During the Bronco/Kyle era, BYU owns Utah in Top 25 finishes, Top 15 finishes,
overall record, average Sagarin rankings, conference championships, 10+ win
seasons, and bowl games. Utah's last remnant of claimed superiority,
head-to-head, ends with a BYU victory on September 21st. The Utes will have to
live for the next three years with their cowardice, knowing they're no
longer good enough to beat the Cougars.
This is neat.
@solomon Levi"Was UNLV(2-10) BETTER than Utah(9-4)? Not just for
that game, but for the entire season.Was Colorado(3-10) BETTER than
Utah(8-5)? Not just for that game, but for the entire season."Did these teams beat the utes multiple times? Didn't think so. Of cours one off's happen and underdogs win. What you won't see
however is that happening 3 years in or row or 8 of 11 years. So you using this
comparison has no merit. 3 in row, 4 of 5, 8 of 11, 56-34 overall is complete
domination, period the end! Any team that has that same thing or similar over
Utah I fully admit dominates us!
@sportsfan"Whittingham had one great year, in 2008,..."You do realize 1 is better than 0 like Bronco has.
Whittingham would be wise to get a head start on updating his resume and
sharpening his interviewing skills.
2b"Did these teams beat the utes multiple times?"You're frantically and emotionally making apples and oranges
comparisons.Which team is better is determined season by season,
game by game, for the entire season. It doesn't matter that
Utah had beaten Utah State 15-gazillion times in a row, Utah State was clearly
the better team last season, beating the Utes head-to-head AND finishing with a
better record and higher ranking.It's laughable that Utah fans
are so obsessed with using head-to-head results as definitive proof of which
team is better, for the entire season, but ONLY when it comes to comparing BYU
and Utah.If that's your standard, fine, stick with it for EVERY
comparison, not just when it conveniently supports your narrow view of the
world.If Utah beating BYU 54-10 in 2011 conclusively proved that
Utah was better, for the entire season, then UNLV beating Utah 27-0 in 2007
conclusively proved that UNLV was better than Utah, for the entire season.
I truly don't understand BYUs issues with Utah. All the turnovers, miscues,
it's like God has to find a way to keep the Cougs humble or something
because Utah is certainly not better over-all when BYU has completely eclipsed
them in rankings, awards, HoF players, etc. Its like a curse or something. BYU
consistently plays some of their worst games against the utesies. Played better
against ND, Boise St, and Utah St last year, who were all clearly better teams
than Utah, and yet against Utah BYU serves up more turnovers than McDonalds
during a 2 for 1 special. It's ridiculous, and I hope BYU players are as
sick of it as the fans are. No more turnovers to fatten the utesies
over-inflated self image. Time to serve up some humble pie and let it fill their
nostrils with the stench of long overdue defeat for the next two years. The tide
changes now.GO COUGS!!
@CougnDawgsfanDon't hold your breth; or you will Pop!
Of course he's not, his job is to have his team ready to play...not read
press clippings.That said, I'd be very surprised if this is not
a tough year for Utah. Sorry to hear about the crash in New Mexico.
That s cks.
5th!!!? Sounds about right !!!
5th!!!? Sounds way off !!! Second or Third Sounds abour right !!!