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Published: Friday, July 26 2013 12:34 a.m. MDT

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Just Truth
Saratoga Springs, UT

Sounds worse than the NFL, where money grabs have basically spoiled my interest.

jbarr
North Ogden, UT

If they start paying the players in the big 5 conferences then Utah may finally be a better program than BYU. They have already caught up to BYU. A player will choose a school that pays him over one that doesn't almost every time.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Forget everything else, it's the money.

dden45
Provo, Utah

jbarr,

If they start paying players in the big 5 conferences, the good players will go to the teams that can afford to pay them more. Meaning, not UTAH. It means you will have about 3 or 4 teams from each conference making it to the top and the rest never having a chance.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

College athletes are given a great advantage right now. Food, lodging, and education. True, most never graduate or have a real career after college, but they still have been given a great gift. A college scholarship for a football player is worth 40-70 thousand, depending on the school. This is probably low. It is a pretty good give to a student that may not have gone to school otherwise. I don't object to giving them plane tickets home or a small amount of spending money. I do object to the fact that at the power schools players don't have to go to class and they certainly don't do their own homework. Most don't have to obey the law or hold to moral standards. They have a pretty good deal right now. Besides, without the mid-major school, who would be big schools play in September?

Billy Budd
Saint George, UT

"...A college scholarship for a football player is worth 40-70 thousand, depending on the school. This is probably low...".

A scholarship, at USC or Stanford would probably be closer to $250,000 for a redshirt player who stayed the full five years.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

I shared my thoughts a few days ago about the potential for conferences to break away. As some have said it is about the money. There is no way that these schools could get away with paying football players only. Lawyers would have a field day with all of the discrimination lawsuits. It's possible the big 5 would cut lesser sports programs all together to avoid paying players.

Say what you want about Utah. BYU will be on the outside looking in. I seriously doubt the administration and church would go along and join a big 5 conference if the breakaway happens.

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

upinthenight

It's doubtful that the taxpayers of Utah will allow the Utes to pay football players, if players at other state schools aren't paid. The state may just have to cancel inter-collegiate athletics at the U to rein in the out-of-control spending.

eagle
Provo, UT

No need for institutions to pay athletes. Let them reap the profits from their likeness as used in the video games from those private entities. That would be fair and right. This is a pandora's box that might not just destroy college football for many programs, it really threatens entire athletic programs.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

As far as utah is concerned on this subject how is it that utah "fans" think a program already subsidized 25% of its total revenue, and then still runs a multi million dollar deficit, will be able to pay anyone anything?

utah athletics is a money loser, a big fat money loser, and cannot afford itself as is.

panamadesnews
Lindon, UT

ddd

panamadesnews
Lindon, UT

@Chris B: Why do you think AD Hill is holding back on upgrading the stadium? It is because he can see the writing on the wall. If the so called "Big 5" conferences are organized, Hill is worried that Utah may not be included. Hill does not want to have an albatross hanging around his neck - that of a brand new 80,000 capacity stadium and minimal attendance at the games. He already has one albatross - the Huntsman Center - doesn't want another.

Rather than worrying about whether or not BYU is included in the "Big 5", I would worry about Utah, if I were you - if you are a TRUE Utah fan.

panamadesnews
Lindon, UT

@Bleed Crimson: Do you think BYU voted itself #1 in 1984? I thought they just played their games and won them all.

Ltrain
St. George, UT

Interesting comments as usual. I graduated from the U of U, and since their greedy administration acted to join with the other greedy schools, it gives me great joy to laugh out loud when I get the "donation requests" from my AM. I encourage others to never give another red cent to this "institution of hypocrisy."
I as a voter would certainly get involved if the U ever tried to stipend their players. Unless they can afford to do the same with the other schools in the state, then no way it happens.

Atrix
Vancouver, WA

The day this theory comes true will mark the end of football at the pro and college level as we know it today. NCAA Basketball is super entertaining because everybody has the same chance. Honestly I miss good old traditional football, when money wasn't the reason for playing. It disgusts me that corruption had to take over football. I guess the days are coming where sports won't mean much to many anyways. The world will soon learn that there is more to life than money.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

There's a few good points that posters have brought up and I agree with. State legislatures that subsidize state schools will certainly have something to say about paying players equal stipends. Thats why i dont feel paying players has anything to do with the Power 5 wanting to break away. it has everythng to do with them keeping the money they feel they "deserve"...its elitism at its finiest.

As for BYU, this really isn't a big deal to them. They are a private school that fund themselves, and will pay the stipends and slightly raise ticket prices, or whatever needs to be done. There are some commentators that feel the brethren would get rid of BYU sports altogether, but that is not accurate at all. The reason BYU fought for TV rights and independence to begin with was the increased exposure it would provide for THE LDS CHURCH. Why would they invest millions of dollars, only to cut it off now? BYU will do what BYU needs to do...Utah on the other hand, will be in the hands of the legislature....

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Continued...
There are many, including myself, that believe CFB elite programs will break from the ncaa and the rest for financial and exclusionary reasons. This would include the elite money-making programs. If this happens, and I firmly believe it will, Utah and BYU can kiss major CFB goodbye because neither program is elite in terms of fanbase or income.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Those thinking BYU has financial problems are not aware that a few years ago it was in the news that there were TWO schools in the entire country that had football programs operating in the black and ONE of them was BYU. And since it is a private institution they don't need to tell anyone their business, do they?

For those who think Utah Taxpayers are going to sit still and have their taxes go up to pay Utah football players a stipend, think again. It ain't gonna happen.

With respect to the "elite 5" telling everyone they are so much better than the average team (some who have been rewarded by going to BCS games) I only think of the US Congress and their ego. Of course we see their current approval rating and perhaps these elite programs would get the same sort of reputation. Egos are so hard to deflate; not only do they have the magical and mythical Championship Game, they have all the money. What they are missing is common sense. We see that frequently with comments from fans of our own local variety of a bottom-feeder BcS member.

red rocks
Saint George, UT

If this happens look for another reduction in 5-10 years when the elite want to cut out the Vanderbilts, Washington States, the Utahs etc.. ( the teams that can't produce championships) that are going to be the bottom feeders. They will be looking at what teams can produce the revenue needed to belong to the elite club. Those who cant produce will be shown the door. Some of you will think that this cant / wont happen. That is exactly what is happening right now. This is just the next round of the football elite. They will cut it down to about 32 teams. The big winners will be the attorneys and Lobbyists that will emerge to influence the politicians on each side of this argument.

The Bottom line is that the NCAA need to step up and put their big boy pants on and make tough decisions (true football playoffs) for college football to survive.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Does anyone here really believe that the smaller conferences and schools are looking out for the interests of power five conferences?
Because the NCAA is dominated by these smaller schools/conferences they have been able to dictated how power conferences and schools should be run.What's fare about that? Would you like someone else dictating how your life should be run? \
There is no true equality in anything in life. Why should football be any different? Why should the power five be subjected to the needs of the now power five? Does a world class doctor or lawyer have the same needs or problems as a dollar store clerk? The doctor and lawyer may want to help the clerk out but they should not be forced to do so because there are more dollar store clerks. All the power five want is to be able to run their conference or school the way they want. Not as someone else decides or wants. Let the market decide! If you don't like the power five then don't participate with them. You have a choice, why shouldn't they?

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