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Published: Tuesday, July 23 2013 10:45 a.m. MDT

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Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

We all know that preseason rankings and predictions are pretty worthless. However, I have to agree with the main point of the article that it is an opportunity for the Utes to blow away those predictions of poor performance. I hope the Utes play with something to prove and amaze everyone!

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

CO Ute

"Curious how you consider last years game a 'close fluke win' for Utah."

Easy answer.

With BYU down 7-10, the Cougars had marched from their own 30 to the Utah 20 and were threatening to tie the game or take the lead, when an errant snap scoop and score gave the Utes a gift touchdown and a 17-10 lead. Without that unforced turnover, BYU likely ties or takes the lead late in the 3rd quarter in a game in which Utah's offense was being completely shut down by BYU's defense. The Utes didn't have a single touchdown scoring drive over 39 yards; and that one-play scoring drive, along with Utah's other two-play, 17-yard scoring drive, were both set up by long punt returns. Utah's offense only crossed mid-field once on drives that started on Utah's half of the field.

The final box score shows just how fortunate the Utes were:

1st Downs
BYU 25
Utah 14

Rushing Yards
BYU 106
Utah 49

Passing Yards
BYU 206
Utah 196

Total Yards
BYU 312
Utah 245

The better team doesn't always win.

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

@solomom levi

You and your BYU fan base are always coming up with excuses. The bottom line is, Utah won the game last year, as they have the last 3 years in a row, 4 out of 5, 8 out of 11, and overall 56-34-4. Nit picking last year's game won't change the fact that you lost.

When your fans can come to terms with this and realize that you are on the short end of the stick in everything related to the Utah-BYU football rivalry, then that will be a first step in becoming competitive again.

2BCSWINS
West of I15, UT

@solomon Levi...."threatening to tie the game or take the lead, when an errant snap scoop and score gave the Utes a gift touchdown and a 17-10 lead."

So do you not pay attention to the entire game? We also had an unforced error late in the game on a punt that let the Y even have a chance to come back. If not for that unforced error the Utes win that game going away. I can sit here and list unforced errors, bad calls, etc. from almost every one of these games. However their just excuses "BETTER TEAMS" don't make excuses! They win the game regardless of bad calls, unforced errors, etc.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Solomon Levi

I guess you weren't watching the same game.

Utah dominated the first 3 Qtrs and nearly choked in the 4th.

BYU had 161 total yards the first 3 quarters
Utah around 200

The result of which according to ESPN was:

Gameball goes to... Jon Hays had two touchdown passes for Utah, which led after three quarters, 24-7. Stat of the game... 14-0. BYU rallied furiously in the final quarter, outscoring Utah 14-0.

I was at the game and we thought the route was on after we took a 24-7 lead.

It didn't happen. I give credit to BYU for not quitting, unlike in 2011 @LES when down 24-10 BYU quit.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Solomon Levi

"CO Ute

'Curious how you consider last years game a 'close fluke win' for Utah.'

Easy answer.

With BYU down 7-10, the Cougars had marched from their own 30 to the Utah 20 and were threatening to tie the game or take the lead, when an errant snap scoop and score gave the Utes a gift touchdown and a 17-10 lead. Without that unforced turnover...."

Actually, the mis-snap was 100% forced. The U merely had to line-up Star directly over C at NG, which they did, and their C became terrified as he immediately/understandably lost sight of his responsibility in snapping and placed 100% focus on how he would survive Star and live to play another down. I witnessed this phenomena throughout Star's career, typically resulting in false-starts, but sometimes in TDs. 14-0 against USC as Star straight blew-up their all-everything C Holmes, before their coaches wised-up and gave him mandatory assistance, is yet another example. Holmes was so flustered/anxious/frantic/emotional, it was equally pure-comedy to witness!

No, this TO was unequivocally 100% forced by Star's mere presence.!

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA

Uteology

"Utah dominated the first 3 Qtrs..."

Typical Ute crimson-colored hyperbole. The game was tied 7-7 at the half and Utah only lead 10-7 midway through the 3rd, with BYU deep in Utah territory and poised to take the lead, before Utah's lucky scoop and score.

The Utes hung on by their finger-nails as BYU's game-tying FG try hit the upright with no time left. Two inches to the right, and the game goes into overtime, with Utah shell-shocked and BYU having all of the momentum.

It's alright. U can admit that the Utes barely survived a devastating defeat.

The remainder of the season proved which team was better.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Solomon Levi--

"CO Ute

'Curious how you consider last years game a 'close fluke win' for Utah.'

Easy answer.

With BYU down 7-10, the Cougars had marched from their own 30 to the Utah 20 and were threatening to tie the game or take the lead, when an errant snap scoop and score gave the Utes a gift touchdown and a 17-10 lead. Without that unforced turnover....The final box score shows just how fortunate the Utes were:"

Here are merely four examples of unforced errors--

Our botched punt and two PF penalties during 2-Star byu's TD drive making it 24-14; Our botched punt giving 2-Star byu the ball on our 14 yard line, leading to a TD and providing our final margin of victory, 24-21; JK face-mask penalty on RN in the end-zone on 1st and 10 on their own 5, negating our safety and giving them another 1st and 10 on their 20.

Finally, the 47 yard completion at the end was our two B.U. safeties committing a Football 101 error. Our two FR All-American starting safeties would never have allowed him to get behind them, ever!

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Correction--

Should read, "Our two PF penalties during 2-Star byu's TD drive making it 24-14; Our botched punt giving 2-Star byu the ball on our 14 yard line, leading to a TD and providing our final margin of victory, 24-21; JK face-mask penalty on RN in the end-zone on 1st and 10 on their own 5, negating our safety and giving them another 1st and 10 on their 20."

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA

AZUTE1

"Actually, the mis-snap was 100% forced. The U merely had to line-up Star directly over C at NG, which they did, and their C became terrified as he immediately/understandably lost sight of his responsibility in snapping and placed 100% focus on how he would survive Star and live to play another down."

LOL at your delusional spin.

Riley simply turned his head to realign his RB at the same moment that the ball was snapped; crowd noise might have been a factor, but Star was a non-factor.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

anti BCS--

"The Utes hung on by their finger-nails as BYU's game-tying FG try hit the upright with no time left. Two inches to the right, and the game goes into overtime, with Utah shell-shocked and BYU having all of the momentum."

Were the refs competent, they would've realized bm and others from their sideline were the nearest non-participants on the field to falslev/football, thus off-setting penalties and no "Doink" ever takes place.

"It's alright. U can admit that the Utes barely survived a devastating defeat."

Lol

"The remainder of the season proved which team was better."

Hardly, as the final SOS rankings showed--

2-Star byu #63

The U #41

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

"Actually, the mis-snap was 100% forced. The U merely had to line-up Star directly over C at NG, which they did, and their C became terrified as he immediately/understandably lost sight of his responsibility in snapping and placed 100% focus on how he would survive Star and live to play another down. I witnessed this phenomena throughout Star's career, typically resulting in false-starts, but sometimes in TDs. 14-0 against USC as Star straight blew-up their all-everything C Holmes, before their coaches wised-up and gave him mandatory assistance, is yet another example."

AZUTE,

You have been saying this for a while and I am calling you out on this. This is nothing more than pure conjecture on your part to say that you are 100% aware of what was going on in the mind of BYU's center. In fact if you go back and watch the play again you will see that the ONLY reason the snap was not fielded by Riley is because he was looking at the sidelines when the ball was snapped. Clearly a case of an unforced error due to a lack of communication between qb and center. Fail.

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

AZUTE1

In other words, the mighty PACy-WACy Utes nearly caved under the pressure of BYU's 4th quarter onslaught. The Utes were lucky BYU hit the upright on the final play of the game, because the panic stricken PACy-WACy Utes had NOTHING left in the tank.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

anti BCS--

"AZUTE1

LOL at your delusional spin.

Riley simply turned his head to realign his RB at the same moment that the ball was snapped; crowd noise might have been a factor, but Star was a non-factor."

No Spin necessary. You can just simply review the footage for yourself to see that I'm 100% correct.

Then, you can review each and every game Star played in.

100% Straightforward!

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

cougars1--

"You have been saying this for a while and I am calling you out on this. This is nothing more than pure conjecture on your part to say that you are 100% aware of what was going on in the mind of BYU's center. In fact if you go back and watch the play again you will see that the ONLY reason the snap was not fielded by Riley is because he was looking at the sidelines when the ball was snapped. Clearly a case of an unforced error due to a lack of communication between qb and center. Fail."

Actually, stating he didn't see the ball coming couldn't be further from the truth! Having witnessed it routinely throughout his U career, it wasn't the least bit surprising that it occurred, whatsoever!

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

AZUTE1

"Actually, stating he didn't see the ball coming couldn't be further from the truth!"

Actually, stating that he [Riley] didn't see the ball coming is EXACTLY the truth!

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

After watching it again from a different angle for the 4th time it was definitely unforced. AZUTE can say what he wants, but he is wrong. The stat sheet even says "unforced error".

Just the FAX
Olympus Cove, Utah

AZUTE1

"Were the refs competent, they would've realized bm and others from their sideline were the nearest non-participants on the field to falslev/football, thus off-setting penalties and no "Doink" ever takes place."

The refs called what they saw, which was a mass of Utah fans storming the field. The Utes deserved the penalty.

Besides, if you were at all competent in knowing the rules of the game, you would know that a game cannot end on a defensive penalty, off-set or not. At the very least, off-setting penalties would have meant a replay of the down from the original spot for another long FG try or a hail Mary pass. It would have been fun to see Hoffman out-leaping Utah's DB's for the game-winning TD.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Forget this whole mark it down thing, but I do see Utah bowling this year despite a schedule that is extremely difficult. I do think Utah matches up well in eight of their games but we will have to find out if they have enough depth to weather the strength of their schedule. My concern is Travis Wilson, and it's a big concern.

BYU has a good number of storied and solid opponents. But they do have a few more lighter opponents than Utah in my opinion. Thing is, I would be excited as a BYU fan because I think this unique schedule they have this year includes high profile games with teams that I see as vulnerable. Notre Dame lost their QB to suspension and BYU woulda coulda shoulda beat the Irish last year with the back up who played. Wisconsin has a new staff although Gary Anderson is well respected in this neck of the woods as well as others (or he wouldn't have gotten the job). Boise State has tapered off the last few years. Another solid BYU defensive effort there with BYU at home and the offense being better, and that is a win.

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

AZUTE1 obviously believes the old adage that if you repeat "stuff" enough times, people will start to believe it.

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