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Published: Tuesday, July 23 2013 10:45 a.m. MDT

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Warrior Parent
Belle Glade, FL

well Utes... there is always gymnastics

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

Soloman,
2 fluke wins? By your definition of flucke BYU's lone win in 4 seasons over Utah could be considered a fluke. Therefore, its alot closer to being 4-0 for Utah, over 4 years, than it being 3-1 for BYU (And their arent any hypotheticals when the actual record shows 3-1 for Utah, 4-1 utah if you extend it one year more year).
Final Rankings? The only completely subjective measure. Didn't BYU finish ahead in rankings after losing by 44 points? All that shows is that BYU had one seriously weak schedule.
Give it up dude, why are you ashamed of the truth? BYU cant compete with Utah, doesn't mean you cant be a perfectly happy being a fan of your own team.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

jdub1942

The last time this year's high school Seniors saw Utah win a road game against a PAC 10/12 team with a winning record... well, none of this year's high school Seniors were in pre-school.

The Utes are all talk, but no walk when it comes to actually competing in the PAC.

Despite all of your bloviating claims about the Utes leaving the Cougars in their dust, Utah fans are still and always will be obsessed with BYU. It's what U do.

It's obvious that your first priority is beating BYU. How you do in the PAC is only a secondary concern.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

Warrior Parent,
Well...the is always the chance your kid makes the honor roll. Congrats if that happens, but don't get the bumper sticker.
Jej, cant figure out why more fans aren't like you. Sure you dished some subtle smack on your rival, but you can also be happy with you own team.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

Uteanymous,
Last time Utah won a Pac10/12 game against a team with a winning record, was actually one game more recent than the last time BYU beat Utah.
I only address BYU because your kind are on this UTAH ARTICLE spouting off nonsense. Do I want the Utes to beat BYU? Yes, but for only one reason, my wife is a BYU fan. But its not my priority (as a Ute fan), I wouldn't say its the 10th most important game, its the 12th, right after USU, #1 would be a bowl game (so I guess BYU could move up to #11)

Warrior Parent
Belle Glade, FL

jdub1942... the ignorance is yours. My Kids...

National Merit Scholar
Sterling Scholar
Straight A's
ACT's in the 30's
plus All State and National athletes

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

jdub1942

"Final Rankings? The only completely subjective measure. Didn't BYU finish ahead in rankings after losing by 44 points? All that shows is that BYU had one seriously weak schedule."

This is where Utah fans are constantly proving how little they actually understand about college football.

Rankings are based on a combination of wins versus schedule. Given a tougher schedule, BYU's 10-3 record in 2011 would have qualified for a MUCH higher ranking. Utah's poorer 8-5 record and stronger schedule yielded a worse ranking.

In Sagarin, BYU finished #34 and #26, average #30; Utah finished #39 and #61, average #50.

It's laughable how Utah fans only whine about schedule strength when the Utes are losing.

Remind us how strong your SOS was in 2004 and 2008.

In 2004, you qualified for a BCS bowl by only beating THREE teams with winning records, none with better than a 7-5 record. In 2008, Utah's SOS was around 60th.

The fact that Utah is so seldom ranked is not a product of SOS, but of not winning.

Stop losing to 10-loss teams and start having more 10+ win seasons, and you'll have a better chance of being ranked.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

Warrior Parent,
I said congrats if that happens. Ignorance was mine, I had the timeline all mixed up.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

jdub1942

"Last time Utah won a Pac10/12 game against a team with a winning record, was actually one game more recent than the last time BYU beat Utah."

two words: reading comprehension

The last time this year's high school Seniors saw Utah win a ROAD game against a PAC 10/12 team with a winning record... well, none of this year's high school Seniors were in pre-school.

Utah is going to have to beat good PAC teams on the ROAD in order to win a conference championship. So far, since joining the PAC, the Utes haven't even proven that they can beat good PAC conference opponents at home.

You do realize, don't you, that the Utes have a lifetime losing record against almost every team in the PAC, including a very ugly 0-8 record versus Washington, a team BYU has a 4-4 record against?

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@scott

Unfortunately for U, you're reverting to your WAC stature, where BYU is your bowl game, and your chances of winning a conference championship are even less than your 1 championship every 20 years pace in the WAC.

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You wish Utah was reverting back to WAC days. That way you can finally beat us.

BYU must be a worthless bowl game since we decided cancel it 2014 and 2015.

You are aware that 1 in 20 PAC-12 titles is much better than ZERO titles for BYU. Why? Because at the very least Utah will be in the Rose Bowl. When you accomplish your "Quest" you will understand the difference.

Todd_i
Midway, UT

I expect it to take a few years for the Utes to truly be in the top tier of the PAC12. But, I do expect it to happen.

965
Sandy, UT

@killarney

I don't understand how you can poke fun at Fresno St. when that's a quality opponent compared to half your schedule...

Get real, br0.

You have 3 teams on your schedule that are better wins than Utah, and Wisc. is debatable as they're a huge question mark. Notre Dame with a new QB, and Texas hasn't been Texas as of late.

Those teams don't hold a candle to UCLA, Oregon, Standford, or USC for that matter.

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah

jdub1942

"Do I want the Utes to beat BYU? Yes, but for only one reason, my wife is a BYU fan. But its not my priority (as a Ute fan), I wouldn't say its the 10th most important game, its the 12th, right after USU, #1 would be a bowl game (so I guess BYU could move up to #11)"

LOL at the spin.

Utah fans talk about BYU 100 times more than they do all of their PAC 12 opponents COMBINED!

Sure, Utah fans reference the PAC 12 conference incessantly, just like they've plastered PAC 12 logos all over Salt Lake Valley, but Utah fans only rarily actually talk about individual PAC 12 teams, except during game week. Even during game week, Utah fans are focused as much on BYU, as they are on that week's opponent.

The current week's loss to whatever PAC opponent is hardly noticed while you're waiting for the first article about BYU's game to be posted, so you can immediately begin commenting about the team that really matters most to U.

ekute
Layton, UT

@Warrior Parent

Belle Glade, FL

"well Utes... there is always gymnastics"

Side stepping?

There's always football!...That's what you're worried about.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

Uteanymous,
Wow! Thank you so much for enlightening us all so much on how rankings "work". May I remind you that computer rankings do not take into account margin of victory (44 points in the Utah BYU game), and the voters simply cannot watch every game and are more biased and self serving than most Congressmen.
You got beat by 44 points, 44! 54-10, what don't you get?

As for you on "the road" qualification, what difference does that make? Especially compared to a bowl game? Your comparisons are always so loaded with qualifications to somehow make you look better, I must apologize if I didn't properly keep track of all of them.
Yes I realize the Lifetime records, Utah was very bad for a very long time. Yet, somehow still have a winning all time record vs. your program.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

midpacmajor,
That was my opinion, how can my opinion be a spin. I never said Utah fans in general, though your assumption that Utah fans are more obsessed with BYU, than BYU fans are obsessed with Utah is laughable considered your obsession with Utah football.

Dnquixote
Las Vegas, NV

Has there ever been a less exact science than preseason projections?
Last year:

Jordan Wynn was going to be healthy and the Utes were going to give USC a run for its money in the south.

Matt Barkley was returning for what was billed as a virtually guaranteed run at the title.

Riley Nelson was going to be a potential Heisman candidate and Mendenhall said he could see his team reaching the top 10 by years end. (Don't get me started on the 2011 Jake Heaps projections, pre meltdown of course)

And on and on and on.... Everyone is guilty.

For my money, its better to have a team with something to prove, than a team that "should" do great. With the exception of a few true perennial power-house teams, everyone has ups and downs. But high expectations normally result in major letdowns.

EarlOfHemsley
Salt Lake City, UT

Props to StGtoSLC. I can't believe we missed out on Trevor Reilly on the Butkus list. I could have sworn I went through every single watch list. Bummer that I missed that one. Sorry, guys.

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

Boy, that was a pretty depressing article. But hey, when you're on the bottom, there's only one way and that's up. Right?? Right, Chrissy??? I love my pac 10.C&U membership, Man!!!

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

965

"I don't understand how you can poke fun at Fresno St. when that's a quality opponent compared to half your schedule..."

How can you claim that a team that's only been ranked 3 times in their entire history, the most recent almost a decade ago, it a stronger opponent than a perennial top 25 team?

Utah isn't replacing BYU with BYU's schedule; Utah is replacing BYU with Fresno St.

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