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Published: Monday, July 22 2013 10:50 a.m. MDT

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Magna Ute Fan
Magna, UT

I am really looking forward to watching the Aggies in this newly expanded MWC. I think this is going ot be a very entertaining league to watch. I hope the Aggies can keep the momentum going and become a serious player in their new league.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Besides Boise games against power conference teams, I can barely stomach to watch the WAC/MWC teams play anymore. USU had a nice run last year, but face it aggies, you'll never have a top 10 finish, you'll never play in a huge bowl game, you'll never go undefeated, you'll never truly be fighting for a national championship. And the thing I like about aggies, they typically accept and acknowledge these facts. Other fans are not so humble.

USU is one of the teams where I'm glad when they're doing well, but I'd rather go do yardwork than watch a WAC/MWC game these days.

There is power conference football.

And then there is non-power conference football.

I can barely stomach the latter after enjoying firsthand the prestige of the former.

Go aggies
Go UTES

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Oh and let me add,

Yes aggies you beat us last year.

Congratulations.

are you already getting ready to storm the field next time it happens in 2030?

LOL!

Sambonethegreat
Salt Lake City, UT

Go Ags! Prove the naysayer(s) wrong.

@Chris B

"There is power conference football. And then there is non-power conference football. I can barely stomach the latter after enjoying firsthand the prestige of the former."

Careful there, man. The Utes still haven't proven a thing in the PAC. And until they do, they're not any better than those non-power conference teams you've been taking stabs at.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@Sambone

"The Utes still haven't proven a thing in the PAC. And until they do, they're not any better than those non-power conference teams you've been taking stabs at"

Not true at all.

First, the Pac 12 could have invited byu, usu, sdsu, Nevada, boise, UNLV......

And those teams would JUMP at the chance. They'd accept no questions asked.

but the pac 12 didn't.

So clearly the Pac 12 thought Utah was worthy of a Pac 12 invite.

The Pac 12 could also invite these teams any day, 365 days a year, if we thought they were worthy.

But we haven't. Because they're not.

Also, byu/usu fans are quick to forget we are the last team in the nation to beat Bama in a bowl game. Familiar with Alabama and Nick Saban perhaps?

We went to 2 BCS games
We went undefeated twice in the last 10 years
We won 2 BCS games

Only Boise even compares to us in that regard.

Keep believing that because Utah has had a tough time in a tough schedule that we are on par with a byu, usu, boise, unlv...

LOL!

Pac 12 call you lately?

Didn't think so.

talkinsports
Gilbert, AZ

Christy

Power conference football = Boise State versus Utah State

Powder-puff conference football = Utah versus Colorado

Big boy football = BYU versus Texas / Notre Dame

The team the PAC desperately wanted, visits Provo this year.

The team the PAC settled for, resides in SLC.

The Utes are lucky that they're not in the MWC anymore, because they'd be bottom-dwelling, bowl no shows. At least by being in the PAC, the Utes have a convenient excuse for losing.

Malihini
Northern, UT

Chris my friend,

"First, the Pac 12 could have invited byu, usu, sdsu, Nevada, boise, UNLV......

And those teams would JUMP at the chance. They'd accept no questions asked."j

I wouldn't jump to this conclusion. I'm not so sure BYU would "JUMP" at the chance. I think BYU likes where they are. You may not like it, but BYU is unique, they know they are unique, they play D-1 sports for different reasons that what other schools do, and like it or not, they are comfortable with it. They have a profitable sports program and they are accomplishing what they want to accomplish, so while you may not understand it, it works for them.

Also, for all your infatuation with your over-rated conference, I hope you still love it after another beat-down year this year.

If you make it to Provo on Sept 21, come on by after the game. I'll cheer you up by talking politics with you.

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

Chris likes to spout off about the pac 12.
I think he is right about any other teams jumping at the offer, and he is right about what Utah did when they were in the MWC.
HOWEVER
Since utah has been in the PAC they have amounted to be a whipping boy. They are not the team that the PAC thought they were, and since being a member have not been much more than a laughing stock.
When that is the case, that's all chrisb can pound his chest about, "what we use to do" and the "pac12"

Here is the question...
would you rather be in a big conference and lose, or be in a small conference and win?

Yes, they get more money, but so far the money is not equaling wins.

I am guessing the PAC is wondering what happened to the team that they thought was good enough to invite?

Magna Ute Fan
Magna, UT

Chris B- The Aggies were quite possibly one field goal away from a BCS bowl game last year. Just look at Northern Illinois.

Give it a rest.

Go Aggies!

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

the utes were one field goal away from a BC... oh wait... nevermind

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

Interesting to not hear Keaton's name on the first team list. I have a hunch he will remind the coaches on the field that they were mistaken giving Carr the recognition over Keaton.

Utah State better take down the Utes to start off the season. It will be a tough game being in SLC, but USU is the better program and team right now.

Stang08
Southern, UT

So as I predicted Bosie will win the MWC again. And USU will be behind them. What Chris B says takes guts. Wish there was more of that on these aggie pages. But I'm not suprised there isn't since we are on the aggie pages. Good luck behind BSU this year ladies.

raybies
Layton, UT

#2 in MWC? As an aggie, even I can see how far the MWC has fallen if that's the case.

The only championship team at USU is the Engineering Department, which blows all the other schools in the state out of the water. :-P

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@Chris B - "I can barely stomach to watch the WAC/MWC teams play anymore. I'd rather go do yardwork than watch a WAC/MWC game these days."

So why do comment three times on a MWC team who whipped you last year? There is no more WAC football (try to keep up). PAC didn't do too well against the MWC last year.

Just curious, the yard work you are referring to, is that what you did last December while Cougs and Aggies were still cheering on their teams?

AggieVoice
Logan, UT

Holy crap how did another Aggie thread turn into a Pac-12 vs Independence debate? Can we stick to the AGGIES and the MWC on USU threads please?

Should be a great season for Utah State. They have an opportunity to compete for a conference championship AND go to a BCS game. Do I expect them to? No, hardly any Aggie fans do. We would be thrilled with an 8-9 win season and continue the sustainable growth pattern we have had for the last 2 years.

love, little brother

Sambonethegreat
Salt Lake City, UT

@Chris B

Perhaps you misread my post. I said the Utes haven't proven anything in the Pac-12.

Utah's accomplishments in the MWC were significant and I don't take that away from them at all. However, since joining the Pac-12, Utah has done almost nothing (except lose to the Buffs... OUCH).

So until Utah actually does something meaningful in the league, I think they're a has-been.

Just because U got invited to the party, doesn't mean U necessarily belong there.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Sambone,

Perhaps you forgot everything you posted.

You also said:

"they're not any better than those non-power conference teams you've been taking stabs at"

and

"Just because U got invited to the party, doesn't mean U necessarily belong there"

Both wrong.

I'm going to guess that by "team" you mean "program", you can correct me if that's not what you meant. If you truly meant "team" as in the "2013 team" then I guess I could say that Weber State 2013 team is better than Alabama 2013 because we just don't know, so again correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you meant "program"?

And a program that has 2 undefeated seasons in the past 10 years, 2 BCS bowls in the past 10 years, 2 BCS bowl wins in the past 10 years, 2 top 10 finishes in the past 10 years YES is better than every WAC/MWC other than boise perhaps.

And yes, we are worthy to be in the Pac 12.

If we weren't, the Pac 12 wouldn't have invited us.

Again, they CHOSE Utah OVER byu, OVER usu, OVER boise, OVER SDSU, OVER UNLV,..

Sambonethegreat
Salt Lake City, UT

@Chris B

That's just grasping at straws. I was referring to other mid-major FBS programs like BYU, Tulsa, Fresno State, or SMU. The Utes aren't far removed from their MWC days at all, and while the accomplishments they had in that league were significant, that's in the past.

The longer the Utes go without doing something meaningful in the Pac-12, the less those accomplishments are going to mean.

And I'm still waiting for the Utes to defeat a Pac-12 opponent with a winning record. Still hasn't happened in the past two years, man.

Love skiing
Salt Lake City, UT

"Division 4" is coming. USU and BYU need to do whatever It takes to be on the in. I am not making this up. Dennis Dodd did a piece on this on CBS sport. Bob Bowlsby of the Big 12 talked about this on their media day. According to him, they could announce this in 6 months. I am a Utah fan and would love to see BYU and USU involve. They are even discussing only playing teams in the Division 4. This is wrong. It's about Money. It sucks.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

Being chosen to be a PAC whipping boy doesn't make U "worthy" of being anything except available.

During the last two years.

Top 25 Rankings
BYU 1
USU 1
Utah none

Bowl Games
BYU 2
USU 2
Utah 1

Losses to 10-loss teams
BYU none in the last 25 years
USU none in the last 5 years
Utah two in the last 6 years

Utah's flash-in-the-pan success is already fading, buried under season after season of increasing mediocrity.

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