I have long been an advocate that prisoners should be given more education if
the crimes are not things like capital murder and multiple and repeated sexual
abuse on both adults and children. Let's hope the program gets a boost in
We spend millions and millions on education in this state. Why are young me
(and women) not getting a thorough education from the public schools instead of
waiting until they end up in prison.With the number of freshmen
entering college needing remedial education, this sort of repeats the same
question. Is our K-12 education system really doing its job educating students,
or just wasting money to have people check off "seat time" while they
are indoctrinated with the often useless nonsense that has replaced
"Reading, writing and arithmetic" and useful job skills in the
politically correct classrooms?
Ironic, we consider education part of the 'pumnishment' of
imprisonment. After all that's our goal, right? That criminals be punished?
Yet here we see rehabilitation as an unintended consequence. I wonder what would
happen if we decided to punish people with education at an earlier age?
Re DN SubscriberThe public education system is designed to be a
babysitting tool for large families here. And you are correct, they are
indoctrinated with the often useless nonsense that has replaced "Reading,
writing, and arithmetic", it's sometimes referred to as
"seminary." The Utah legislature doesn't want an educated populace.
One of them even wants to make school optional.
Great reason not to move the Prison.
The average time incarcerated is 2-3 years. The lock them up and throw away
the key mentality just makes prison a revolving door. Punishment alone just
makes criminals worse when they leave than when the first entered the system.
You can't take away hope from people and expect anything positive to
For over 30 years I worked managing employment and training programs. Many of
those years I sat on an Illinois Work release center lay board giving advice.
Every youth inmate I spoke with was a high school dropout. In todays world,
almost no employer will hire a dropout. The best help we gave them was to insist
that every young inmate attend a GED class my agency paid for through our local
community college. The better education we can give our prison inmates, the more
likely they will be able to secure a job and NOT return to the penal system.
Now I know why Sen. Aaron Osmond is trying to end compulsory education---so they
can get their education at a later age in prison.
hutterite: Not everyone believes that the prison system exists for the sake of
punishment. It is a punishment by its nature, but many see its intent is to
rehabilitate and perhaps provide a form of social restitution. This
program seems inline entirely with that viewpoint.
Let me as some rag on our schools. Well at prison, these inmates
(students) actually attend class (they are a captive audience pardon the pun)
and are highly motivated and even their parents can't make excuses for them
for non-attendance, not doing their work, nor can they blame the teacher etc.
If only our public teachers had this sort of support and motivation by the
It would be interesting to see a study into why this works.I have
heard that often the criminals or repeat offenders are that way because they
just don't know how to be self disciplined enough to hold down a job. Are
the ex-cons becoming productive members of society because of the trade skills
they learn or is it because they have learned life skills that make employment
workable for them?
I've always been amazed at the negativity frequently expressed at
educational and training programs in prison, usually along the lines of "I
can't get that education for free, so why should they?". The reality
is that education is one of the best ways to reduce recidivism and help
offenders to rejoin society as productive members when they're released.
Since we don't want people coming out of prison worse than when they went
in, and we don't want them coming out just the way they were when they went
in, it follows logically that we should provide the means for self-improvement
so they can stay out of prison and make the community a better place. It costs
far less to educate someone than to incarcerate him, so this makes good
financial sense as well.