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Published: Saturday, July 20 2013 12:50 p.m. MDT

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CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Chrissy - just to put the record straight, there are more 3 stars in the NFL than 4 or 5 stars. Please do your homework before you post.

Who would U rather have, your four star Terrell Reese or one star Eric Weddle?

Or how about four star Kenneth Scott versus one star Cody Hoffman. Scott's not bad, but he's not a Cody Hoffman.

Barnbug1
SPANISH FORK, UT

How crazy is it that a young man on one of the greatest days of his life can go to a web article about his commitment and get trashed by adults who ought to know better. Chris, how many stars does it take to sit in front of a computer screen and trash a young man you don't even know? I'm as guilty as anyone with the my dad can beat up your dad stuff, but about the SCHOOLS, not the kids. As adults we ought to know where to draw the line, but it seems that we have some 1 star posters that haven't figured that out yet.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

"On the contrary, as I so eloquently illustrated. Height, alone, is meaningless, yet you attempted to pass off CBs in an Elite program such as USCs as being the equal of this kid out of Raleigh, based solely upon their comparable height. B. McCain, as well!"

AZUTE,
Trying to pass off your thought process as mine isn't going to work. I never said this kid could play in the PAC. In fact, I never said he could play anywhere. I was simply making the point that his height alone would not keep him from playing in the PAC. Is he fast enough or athletic enough? I have no clue since all I have to go from is a highlight video. But once again, thank you for helping me make the point that "short" DBs can play in the PAC.

As for the reference to UCLA and USC, they just happened to be the first school's rosters I looked at. I also checked Oregon, who also has "short" DBs. You should try not to read into peoples comments as much as you do and just take them at face value.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

"I guess I would have to ask if USC's shorter dbs actually see playing time as dbs or are they merely "on the roster" as you point out. "

Perspective,
What difference does it make? Obviously USC's coaches thought they were capable of playing in the PAC or they never would have recruited them. Or are you trying to tell us that you are smarter than the coaches at USC?

"Additionally, I'll be very curious to see if Utah actually recruited him or if B. Gourney slipped that in there to make byu fans feel good."

Wow. Conspiracy theorists are alive and well at the U. Keep those comments coming. Very amusing indeed.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Barnbug1--

"How crazy is it that a young man on one of the greatest days of his life can go to a web article about his commitment and get trashed by adults who ought to know better. Chris, how many stars does it take to sit in front of a computer screen and trash a young man you don't even know? I'm as guilty as anyone with the my dad can beat up your dad stuff, but about the SCHOOLS, not the kids. As adults we ought to know where to draw the line, but it seems that we have some 1 star posters that haven't figured that out yet."

You must've missed it! Go check out the recently posted article on The U's latest commitment, Donovan Isom, and when you're witnessing this identical viewpoint from across the table, please also note one of my earlier comments on it in direct comparison to yours right here!

Furthermore, people aren't directly insulting this kid, personally, such as his character, merely debating/refuting facts such as his diminutive height relative to successfully playing D-1 College Football, particularly with his non McCain-like speed....Again, facts!

Love skiing
Salt Lake City, UT

Good luck in your choice of school. Ignore the haters, they will always be around.

Utah fan here. Good luck, except against Utah.

gchris
rock springs, wy

ekute

If you will read the article carefully, you will note that it is about football, though Shelton would probably improve the Utah basketball team as well.

gchris
rock springs, wy

All of the talk--mostly from jealous Uyah fans--about the importance of size in a defensive back, seem to overlook the speed and "hops" of this guy. 4.43 speed is world-class at any level and a 38" verticle adds true playing height to a 5'10" defensive back frame. Besides, he is only a high school junior and will probably grow more. Weight training will add an additional twenty pounds. Give me a 5'10", 190 lb. defensive back who can run a 4.43 forty and who is a "gamer" any day. Welcome, Michael, to a very special place and to a great football tradition.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

ekute,
In your rant about BYU basketball you forgot to mention that they beat Utah. But then who hasn't beaten Utah?

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Does anyone know how many stars this recruit has?

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

cougars1--

"AZUTE,
Trying to pass off your thought process as mine isn't going to work. I never said this kid could play in the PAC. In fact, I never said he could play anywhere. I was simply making the point that his height alone would not keep him from playing in the PAC."

Yet, you didn't say otherwise, either. Perspective's statement certainly implied it was well beyond just simply height, but then you offered up no clarification w/in your response, but rather indicated the complete opposite--

"I disagree and so does USC. They have on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1"."

Finally, you only referenced the top PAC-12 teams which are clearly incomparable at this point to UTAH and the other conference members in overall recruiting and, consequently, even significantly less comparable to a team such as 2-Star byu, which has been forced in recent years to focus their sights predominately more and more on 2-Star recruits, such as this kid out of Raleigh!

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Love skiing--

"Good luck in your choice of school. Ignore the haters, they will always be around.

Utah fan here. Good luck, except against Utah."

Debating the level of competition this kid's in fact qualified for hardly equates to being, "haters"!

If you wish to see haters at work, just simply venture over to Donovan Isom's article!

Play Nice
Herriman, UT

Five foot eight inches tall. This sounds like another just adequate, short athlete that has in the past typically left the cougars wishing they had recruited more height along with their athleticism.

Coach Biff
Lehi, UT

Umm, Ute fans, I played with two BYU DB's under the arbitrary 5 10 threshold you are spouting about here. They both played in the NFL. Remember Rod Thomas and Rod Rice? You should. They shut down your receivers on a consistent basis. I'm 5 10. I've stood next to Eric Weddle numerous times. He's 5 10 at best, maybe a hair shorter. Same with Polamalu. Stars and offers are all just a bunch of hogwash that never-was athletes use to try and compensate for their complete lack of athletic ability. It comes out in the wash though. Once the pads go on the real football players shine.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

Excellent get by the Cougars. Great athlete, great player, very excited to grab someone out of SEC/ACC country. Bronco's defense with cover guys will be lights out!

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

"Yet, you didn't say otherwise, either. Perspective's statement certainly implied it was well beyond just simply height, but then you offered up no clarification w/in your response, but rather indicated the complete opposite--"

Good point AZUTE, but I have since been very clear about what my point was. Are you having trouble with that? Apparently so, so I will restate, I was only making the point that "short" DBs can and are capable of playing in the PAC. If you are unable to understand that then we need to get you back into a remedial reading and comprehension class as the last one was apparently ineffective.

"Finally, you only referenced the top PAC-12 teams which are clearly incomparable at this point to UTAH and the other conference members in overall recruiting"

Who said anything about Utah? I chose the top PAC teams because it seemed plausible that if a short db could play for them, then they could also play for any team in the bottom half of the conference. However, feel free to check rosters of any PAC teams. You will find the same results.

CO Ute
PARKER, CO

I wish the young man well even though he is going to the Y. The U has had some very successful players with similar height and speed.

My earlier post, which was approved, doesn't show up on this article so he it is again. Very disappointed in the way this article is framed. Saying Shelton was recruited by Utah and a bunch of other big name schools is very misleading. I don't see that he had any offers from any of these schools. Utah recently signed a QB from Louisiana. He was, using the same standard as for this article, recruited by Alabama, Auburn, Nebraska, LSU, Miss St., ASU, and Miami. All that means is that at some point those schools sent him a letter or made contact. Doesn't mean they made him an offer.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

barnbug1--

"Oh, I don't know, maybe that I don't troll Utah articles? I'll type slower for ya....If you would spend your time supporting YOUR teams players and less time ragging on MY teams players, this stupid, there's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back, conversation never happened."

Actually, I allocate/manage my time perfectly! But thanks, anyway?

What's not clear is, if you're actually of the opinion this all is wasted time, why do you respond to me? Just curious is all!

No response to the remainder of my previous comment?

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Could be awesome.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Speed is always a good thing to have. Let's hope for the Cougs' sakes that he doesn't have the same "skill" set that Logan and Eason had as well as having their height "advantage." Best of luck to him this year.

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