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Published: Saturday, July 20 2013 12:50 p.m. MDT

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Cougsrock original
Maricopa, Az

Chris B. And yet the Utes are still PAC 12 bottom feeders. Good luck with the star thing.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

The article says "Shelton was recruited by UTAH, Auburn, Duke, Georgia Tech and Oregon State, among others."

Chris B, The word "recruited" doesn't have a definition in any dictionary that even comes close to "may have taken a look at him"...

Utah would take him tomorrow, but he's not interested in wearing Red and going to play for a team that looks to continue to be a basement dweller in their conference... He wants the opportunity to play the Notre Dames, the Wisconsins, the Longhorns,and the Broncos every year, to travel across the country, and to play on TV every week... Most of all he wants a program with a coach that says what he means and does what he says, and a University with high standards and moral values and that is why he jumped at the chance to be a cougar...

It's because of this type of recruiting that BYU is continually rated in preseason power rankings above their little brother on the hill and it's because of recruits like this that BYU has the earned reputation nationally of being a perenial football power.

Mark321
Las Vegas, NV

@ ekute

"byu is just an average basketball team in one of the smallest conferences on the planet."

As a BYU fan, I'm not going to go out on a limb and say BYU is a great basketball program, but average basketball teams don't win 24+ games a year in the past 6-7 years and most of that time was in the Mountain West. I'd say BYU is a solid basketball team. Joe Lunardi expects BYU to be in the tournament as a 10 seed in the latest bracketology. And the WCC is for sure a 2 bid league and BYU and Gonzaga will be 1 and 2 (or reverse) in that league this year, a 3 bid league in good years. Also, if according to you BYU basketball is average I would hate to see how Utah basketball would be rated.

Atrix
Vancouver, WA

It's funny watching all the Ute fans bash on BYU. As a BYU fan I could care less about stars or which schools recruited him. Life is about more than football and BYU provides things that you can't get anywhere else. The fact the BYU still wins ball games, and goes to a Bowl year after year unlike Utah, that is pretty cool. That fact the BYU does more with less shows volumes about the program and what the University can accomplish. Sure, Utah puts more kids in the NFL, what has that ever done to make the world a better place?

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

@ekute...

I can't believe a Utah fan even wants to talk about Basketball... Over the past 7 years your team is 1-11 and that one win that they have on their home floor was in OT a few years back...

In the last 2 years the Utes have lost to some Baptist Division II school from Texas and to the Sacramento State Hornets who just recently became Division I...And they lost on their home floor.

That's embarrassing by anybody's standards...

That little conference that BYU belongs to has a team in it that is continually in the top 10 and was Number 1 for several weeks last year... In the round of 32 in the tournament they had a flat night against an 8 or 9 seed which ended up going to the Final Four and giving the National Champions the toughest game they had in the entire Tourney...

BYU by any standard has recruited very well in 2013 and 2014 and they will return to the NCAA Tourney next year for their 7th appearance in the last 8 years... Last year they made it to the Final 4 in the NIT and lost to the Champs.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

As a return man, he runs well north/south, not wasting a lot of time juking in place. In coverage, he is in position and also gets up field in run support, though I didn't see a single good block put on him by a receiver. Thing is, this is a highlight reel. What happens when a bigger receiver puts a block on him? I'll give the coaches the benefit of a doubt that they've seen complete games either in person or on tape.

However, if he is 5'8" all the speed, hops, heart in the world doesn't erase that fact. In football, size does indeed matter. The 300 lb guys in college can do what the 210 lb guys do in high school, the 240 lb guys do what the 160 lb guys did in high school, and the 6'3" guys do what the 5'8" guys did in high school. BYU's wideouts are 6'3", 6'3" and 6.6". Tight ends are bigger still. I'm hoping he is the 5'10" claimed on the video.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Congratulations to Shelton! He's obviously thrilled with the opportunity to play at byu and it looks like byu has picked up a great kid and a very capable football player. From watching the video it looks like Shelton's high school team uses him not only as a db but on special teams and as a receiver. He does it all...congratulations to byu.

There's no indication from these comments that anyone noticed the beginning of the video...Shelton is actually 5'10", not 5'8" as B. Gourney reported here. As for Utah's alleged interest in Shelton, I can certainly see Utah going after him as a receiver and possibly special teams. Time and time again Jeremy Brooks proved the value of a smaller receiver underneath coverage. The Utes' current version of Brooks is Delshawn McClelland. Great hands, elusive, exceptionally fast. It may well be that what was in play for Utah. As a DB? No way...not in the Pac-12. Evan at 5"10' Shelton would be completely ineffective as a db position in the Pac-12.

It would be nice to know where B. Gourney got his information.

Atrix
Vancouver, WA

"Rational"

Brian Logan played corner for BYU at only 5'6. Sure he got burned by some taller guys but wound up being an All-American honorable mention if I remember right. If the defense plays the right way 5'8 won't matter. Just look at all the 5'8 corners in the NFL, there are a ton of them.

kat
Ogden, UT

Chris
And Peterson disagrees with Saban!

Hey Baby
Franklin, IN

Utes WR's

5'10=2
5'11=1
6'1=2
6'3=3
6'4=1

All 8 are 2" taller than Shelton...hope he has hops!!!

idaho cougar fan
Twin Falls, ID

Congrats to Michael. Good luck to him in Provo!

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

Rational,
College coaches ask for a highlight film and one complete game film, and they tell players to make sure they pick their best game. Wasn't the great Bryce McCain 5'9"? His speed and vert will compensate for some lack of height.

Who knows how his game will translate from hs to college, but it is nice to see that he has the right attitude.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

"As a DB? No way...not in the Pac-12. Evan at 5"10' Shelton would be completely ineffective as a db position in the Pac-12. "

Perspective,
I disagree and so does USC. They have on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1".

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Cougars1

USC has "on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1". I was not aware of that. Most receivers in the Pac-12 present match up problems with shorter dbs. I guess I would have to ask if USC's shorter dbs actually see playing time as dbs or are they merely "on the roster" as you point out.

At any rate, it will be interesting to see how he is rated once the services catch up with him. Additionally, I'll be very curious to see if Utah actually recruited him or if B. Gourney slipped that in there to make byu fans feel good. My understanding is that NC is not where Utah typically recruits but then, I was surprised to learn they picked up a player from Louisiana, LOL! Time will tell.

btw,you're correct, Bryce McCain was smaller but he ran a 4.28.

Congrats again to byu!

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

cougars1--

"I disagree and so does USC. They have on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1"."

5'9" CB--

HIGH SCHOOL: His 2009 honors included Prep Star All-American, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, Max Preps All-State Division I first team, Cal-Hi Sports All-State third team, All-CIF Eastern Division first team, Riverside Press-Enterprise All-Riverside second team and Inland Valley Daily Bulletin All-Inland Valley MVP as a senior running back and defensive back at Kaiser High in Fontana (Calif.). He had 1,681 yards on 198 carries (8.5 avg.) on offense and had 55 tackles and 1 interception on defense in 2009.

As a junior in 2008, he made Riverside Press-Enterprise All-Riverside honorable mention. He ran for 1,010 yards and 11 TDs on offense and had 48 tackles and 3 interceptions on defense in 2008.

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BYU Fan in DC
Washington, DC

Can I remind all you Ute fans that this kid just finished his junior year? That means he has a whole other season to gain some interest. I am really excited to see Shelton and Dye run back kicks for the next couple several years. I really really hope he runs one back against the Utes.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

cougars1--

[Cont'd]

5'10"--

High School: His 2010 honors included UnderArmour All-American, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, All-Cif Central Division, All-Southern Section first team, All-Inland Empire first team and All-Inland Valley League first team as a senior defensive back at Rancho Verde High in Moreno Valley (Calif.). Rancho Verde went 12-1 in 2010 and was a Cif Central Division finalist.

He won the inaugural 2010 Sparq Rating National Championship, which tests speed, power, agility, reaction and quickness.

5'11"--

High School: His 2012 honors included Prep Star All-American Dream Team, Espn 150, Rivals 100, Orange County Register Fab 15 first team, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100 and All-CIF Inland Division as a senior cornerback and wide receiver in 2012 at Rancho Cucamonga (Calif.) High, which went 10-3. He had 56 tackles, 2 interceptions, 6 deflections, 1 forced fumble and 1 blocked field goal on defense in 2012 and 14 receptions for 193 yards (13.8 avg.) with 2 TDs on offense.

As a 2011 junior, he made All-Cif Inland Division as he had 32 tackles and 2 interceptions.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

Great job AZUTE,

Now why don't you tell us how many stars they all had, and while you're at it, give us the run down on the 5'7" and 5'8" corner backs on UCLA's roster. All you did was just enforce my point that size has nothing to do with whether or not you can play db in the PAC. Thank you for doing the research to back me up. You're an ok dude.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Chris B will become very quiet once BYU does their thing with the U this year.

BYU is very good at finding athletes who are overlooked by other teams. Cody Hoffman is just one example. Just because nobody noticed Michael Shelton means only that nobody noticed him. But he was noticed by many other schools.

Welcome to the Y Michael. You will love it there and Cougar Nation will love watching you play.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Cougars1--

"Great job AZUTE,

Now why don't you tell us how many stars they all had, and while you're at it, give us the run down on the 5'7" and 5'8" corner backs on UCLA's roster. All you did was just enforce my point that size has nothing to do with whether or not you can play db in the PAC. Thank you for doing the research to back me up. You're an ok dude."

On the contrary, as I so eloquently illustrated. Height, alone, is meaningless, yet you attempted to pass off CBs in an Elite program such as USCs as being the equal of this kid out of Raleigh, based solely upon their comparable height. B. McCain, as well!

Nothing personal against this kid, but his type of talent wouldn't ever even remotely be on the radar of a USC-type school, thus the reference to USC doesn't compute. Neither would a reference to UCLA. I haven't seen Auburn, North Carolina, Duke nor UTAH listed anywhere, as well!

However, fellow Indy's, Idaho/NMSU, would most certainly be apropos!

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