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  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    July 29, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    "My earlier post, which was approved, doesn't show up on this article so he it is again. Very disappointed in the way this article is framed. Saying Shelton was recruited by Utah and a bunch of other big name schools is very misleading. I don't see that he had any offers from any of these schools. Utah recently signed a QB from Louisiana. He was, using the same standard as for this article, recruited by Alabama, Auburn, Nebraska, LSU, Miss St., ASU, and Miami. All that means is that at some point those schools sent him a letter or made contact. Doesn't mean they made him an offer."

    CO Ute, first, you are correct to separate Utah from big name schools.

    Additionally, if you check the Rivals site you will see he holds an offer from Auburn. It is listed right above his commit to BYU.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    July 28, 2013 10:34 p.m.

    Shelton sounds like a real nice athlete and will be a nice addition to the byu secondary. A speedster with 4.4 speed and has a nice vertical leap. The whole star system isn't that big of a deal and im not sure its all that accurate. I would argue that over the years BYU has had better luck with the 3 stars and under players. They seem to come in with a chip on their shoulder to prove that they can play and usually end up being some of the more productive players.

  • hobbes1012003 Kaysville, UT
    July 24, 2013 5:17 p.m.

    Well this kid also had a scholarship offer from Auburn. Does that make him legitimate ChrisB? A BCS school (SEC to boot) offered him a scholarship. According to your morbid way of viewing things that should make him a legitimate athlete. So tell me, if Auburn thinks he is good enough to play for them, what argument do you have that he isnt good enough to play for the mighty Utah?

  • VAggie Bristow, United States
    July 22, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    Right, Alabama gets high quality recruits because they are getting elite talent. Those who have 5 stars usually have earned those stars.Quality players are drawn to quality programs
    I think a lot of past and current Utah, BYU and USU players would get 3-4*'s if they were truly

    It may also be less true in football, but I know it's true in basketball. I know a lot of basketball players in state, and a few of them tell me there recruiting stock dropped after they signed with their current teams.

    No system is perfect, and you may be right, scout might be the best, but even scout is flawed, because it does not evaluate every player, but tries to rank every player.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    July 22, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    Thor has definitely been putting in the time and hard work, he has been training hard with former All Big-12 Texas A&M Linebacker Misi Tupe, he deserves the chance to play D-1 ball. I know his older brothers much better than him. Both Isaac and Bill are at Snow and I wouldn't be surprised if either of them end up playing D-1 ball next year. Small world!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    July 22, 2013 2:15 p.m.

    " ........ a 4.43 forty and a 10.7 100 meter time, a 38-inch vertical and a 3.91 shuttle time ....... "

    Otherwise, not very athletic.

    And the ute trolls just can't stay away. Completely obsessed with BYU Football. Just the way we like it.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    July 22, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    ekute,
    Please try to keep up here. Utah wanted him so I guess you are saying they are a nobody?
    Kind of thought so. Their records sure shows it. LOL. I am sensing some nervousness in your comments about the upcoming year. Sorry that you have to be a ute fan.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 22, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    R.A.W, not a firm offer yet that I'm aware of. They're a great family, I'd love to see Thor end up at the U, but mainly just want to see him succeed anywhere. Nearly every one of them had college football ability, but didn't develop and showcase it as much as they could have, it's great to see Thor taking those extra steps.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 22, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    @2irreleventwins

    "If I tried to say the utes had a better basketball program right now I would look as foolish as Y fan's that try to say they have a better football program over the last decade."

    Yes you would look foolish seeing as though BYU basketball has not only dominated the head to head matchups in that time, including 11 of the last 12, but they have also won more overall games, FAR more, been to the NCAA's far more times, won far more conference titles in that time, and been nationally ranked far more times and much higher.

    But that isn't quite the case with football between the two now is it?

    In fact BYU has won more overall games, been to more bowls, and been nationally ranked more times than utah football has during that time frame. utah has one case for declaring they have been better, the head to head during that time, but BYU has far more things to show their superiority, like more wins, more bowl games, more times ranked.

    Nice try on your part but....FAIL!

    LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 22, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    @azute

    While watching youtube highlights did you happen to notice the size of utah's conerbacks?

    Joseph Smith 5'9" 189 pounds

    Justin Thomas 5'9" 173 pounds

    Micael Walker 5'9" 182 pounds

    Thomas is the one utah coaches, "fans", and homers like dan sorenson, are claiming is going to be a star and future NFLer.

    So perhaps you can tell us why this gigantic 5'9" tall 173 pound corner with a slower 40 time than this BYU recruit is going to be such a superstar while the BYU recruit is "to short" and "to light", and "to slow" to be worth even having on a team?

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    July 22, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    It's utterly hysterical that Utah fans put so much stock in the star ratings of thousands of still developing athletes, yet constantly question the ratings of 120 football teams, except, of course, when Utah is highly rated.

    AP Top 25 ratings are far more accurate than ANY recruiting rating.

    Far more 2- and 3-star recruits are stars in college and in the NFL, than 4- and 5-star recruits.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    July 22, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    @cougfaninTX....."Chrissy - just to put the record straight, there are more 3 stars in the NFL than 4 or 5 stars. Please do your homework before you post."

    Come on really? Please tell me you do realize there are a ton more 1-3 stars in our world then 4-5 stars? The % of 4-5 stars that make the NFL over 1-3 stars is staggering it's not even close.

    I agree completley that stars don't matter 100% of the time. I believe a 0 star recruit can come in and be the best player on the team. However I assure you teams that get more 4-5 star recruits are the teams that are consistently top programs around the country. So to say it don't matter at all is wrong. If Alabama had a roster full of 2-3 star recruits I assure you they wouldn't be winning Nat titles like they are right now.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    July 22, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    @Poyman...."It's because of this type of recruiting that BYU is continually rated in preseason power rankings above their little brother on the hill and it's because of recruits like this that BYU has the earned reputation nationally of being a perenial football power."

    Is it because of recruits like this that the cougies can't beat the utes on the field where it matters??

    Also in regards to you bringing up basketball. I would have to agree with you the Y has definitley had the better program since 2004. See how logical that is and how that works? If I tried to say the utes had a better basketball program right now I would look as foolish as Y fan's that try to say they have a better football program over the last decade.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 22, 2013 8:20 a.m.

    You’ve got to love the trolls. Their preseason smack consists of dissing BYU’s recruiting and SOS, attempting to argue BYU is inferior to Utah because Utah is a BCS team with better access to BCS bowl games. Ironically, Utah is one of the few BCS bowl busters. Let’s examine Utah’s outstanding 2004 BCS busting season.

    In 2004 Utah had a recruiting class of 76, which was worse than BYU’s 2-star studded 2013 recruiting class. They had 20 2-star recruits, one 4-star recruit, and their Scout average ranking of 1.59 was significantly lower than any recruiting class from BYU ever. Their SOS was ranked #67 by Sagarin and they played USU, AF, New Mexico, UNLV, SDSU, Colorado St, and Wyoming (far weaker than BYU’s 2013 schedule). Yet they ran the table, played in a BCS bowl, and ended the season ranked #4.

    What is the correlation between recruiting classes, SOS, and winning games and being ranked? With Utah as a case study there appears to be little or no correlation.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    July 21, 2013 11:55 p.m.

    The kid likes to play in December, so he told Utah to pack sand.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    July 21, 2013 10:35 p.m.

    The problem with only being concerned with stars is that it doesn't take into account coaching, and schemes, and work ethic, along with a plethora of other variables.

    Another poster made a statement but I don't know if people caught it. Chris Petersen at BSU doesn't even recruit as well as BYU in some years, yet has had some of the best most dominant teams in CFB in this decade. Sure, many will argue strength of schedule, but it's a hard argument to make when Boise consistently beats ranked BCS teams. I'm a Georgia fan (along with BYU) and I watched a "2-star" BSU team tear my 4-5 star Dawgs apart in OUR backyard in the Georgia Dome.

    It's interesting that FSU & Miami still rank high in recruits and NFL players, yet haven't sniffed a NC or even a top 5 finish in quite some time (many times, neither has even reached the ACC championship game). There's much more to success than stars, which are merely a measure of potential not actualization on the field. Nick Saban wins because he's a heck of a coach, not just 4-5 star recruits.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    July 21, 2013 10:15 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    No, but I do know the Katoa's well. Thor is another example of an unrated athlete being recruited by big time programs all over the country. Has Utah offered him as well?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 21, 2013 8:27 p.m.

    vaggie--

    While there's a slight modicum of truth to what you stated in some instances, it's not even remotely so pervasive as you would have us believe. I'm especially knowledgeable regarding Scout and their methodology and I assure you, they're significantly cleaner in their methodology than you've understood them to be.

    For instance, as a general rule, Scout caps their various ratings and issues far, far fewer 4-/5-Stars than the other recruiting services do [i.e., Rivals], which explains the difference in ratings commonly seen w/many kids.

    Star ratings certainly aren't the end all, at least not w/each and every recruit ever rated. However, over time a school which Is regularly bringing in 3-/4-Star recruits will beat a school more often than not which is regularly bringing in 2-/3-Star recruits.

    If Stars truly had zero bearing on Ws/Ls, how do you believe Alabama would fare, annually, w/merely 3-Star recruits, w/the occasional 4-/Star recruit thrown into the mix, as opposed to what they currently bring in?

    Think about this scenario for a moment!

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    July 21, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    In threads like these I am reminded of the line from the movie "Miracle", where the US Olympic hockey team coach Herb Brooks answered a question about why he had included some supposedly "inferior" players on his team, instead of the obvious all-stars: "I'm not looking for the best players; I'm looking for the right ones."

    Bronco Mendenhall doesn't pay attention to the star ratings, nor does he care if a player is the most talented. He's looking for a kid who can fit into his system, who can work hard and give his best, who can handle the rigorous academic standards at BYU, and who most of all can abide by the strict Honor Code guidelines and not embarrass the school.

    Those criteria significantly limit the pool of potential recruits, but Bronco seems to be able to consistently churn out winning teams, bowl game victories, and top-25 seasons with supposedly "inferior" recruits.

    He's not looking for the best players; he's looking for the right ones.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 21, 2013 6:50 p.m.

    R.A.W, are your neighbors the Katoas, by chance?

  • VAggie Bristow, United States
    July 21, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    Stars really do not matter. Rivals and Scout do not go to every recruit and actually look at them. One major way they do there rankings is that they look at who gives them offers. If Alabama or Oregon offers a kid they will get more stars simply because the school that offered. If a school not in the bcs offers someone that they have not researched then they'll at most get 2 stars. So except for the very elite players that research and scouting is actually done on the star system is a self fulfilling prophecy of "bcs dominance"

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    July 21, 2013 4:18 p.m.

    This guy seems like a perfect fit for BYU and clearly has a ton of potential. That aside, it is a bit annoying the the DN would just list a slew of random colleges that supposedly recruited him, (which in the real world means offered him scholarships) when that is clearly not the case. Looking at a player or contacting is not recruiting him. Maybe Utah offered, maybe not. But not all of those schools tried to recruit this kid.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 21, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    Speed is always a good thing to have. Let's hope for the Cougs' sakes that he doesn't have the same "skill" set that Logan and Eason had as well as having their height "advantage." Best of luck to him this year.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 21, 2013 1:22 p.m.

    Could be awesome.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 21, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    barnbug1--

    "Oh, I don't know, maybe that I don't troll Utah articles? I'll type slower for ya....If you would spend your time supporting YOUR teams players and less time ragging on MY teams players, this stupid, there's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back, conversation never happened."

    Actually, I allocate/manage my time perfectly! But thanks, anyway?

    What's not clear is, if you're actually of the opinion this all is wasted time, why do you respond to me? Just curious is all!

    No response to the remainder of my previous comment?

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    July 21, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    I wish the young man well even though he is going to the Y. The U has had some very successful players with similar height and speed.

    My earlier post, which was approved, doesn't show up on this article so he it is again. Very disappointed in the way this article is framed. Saying Shelton was recruited by Utah and a bunch of other big name schools is very misleading. I don't see that he had any offers from any of these schools. Utah recently signed a QB from Louisiana. He was, using the same standard as for this article, recruited by Alabama, Auburn, Nebraska, LSU, Miss St., ASU, and Miami. All that means is that at some point those schools sent him a letter or made contact. Doesn't mean they made him an offer.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    July 21, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    "Yet, you didn't say otherwise, either. Perspective's statement certainly implied it was well beyond just simply height, but then you offered up no clarification w/in your response, but rather indicated the complete opposite--"

    Good point AZUTE, but I have since been very clear about what my point was. Are you having trouble with that? Apparently so, so I will restate, I was only making the point that "short" DBs can and are capable of playing in the PAC. If you are unable to understand that then we need to get you back into a remedial reading and comprehension class as the last one was apparently ineffective.

    "Finally, you only referenced the top PAC-12 teams which are clearly incomparable at this point to UTAH and the other conference members in overall recruiting"

    Who said anything about Utah? I chose the top PAC teams because it seemed plausible that if a short db could play for them, then they could also play for any team in the bottom half of the conference. However, feel free to check rosters of any PAC teams. You will find the same results.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    July 21, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    Excellent get by the Cougars. Great athlete, great player, very excited to grab someone out of SEC/ACC country. Bronco's defense with cover guys will be lights out!

  • Coach Biff Lehi, UT
    July 21, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    Umm, Ute fans, I played with two BYU DB's under the arbitrary 5 10 threshold you are spouting about here. They both played in the NFL. Remember Rod Thomas and Rod Rice? You should. They shut down your receivers on a consistent basis. I'm 5 10. I've stood next to Eric Weddle numerous times. He's 5 10 at best, maybe a hair shorter. Same with Polamalu. Stars and offers are all just a bunch of hogwash that never-was athletes use to try and compensate for their complete lack of athletic ability. It comes out in the wash though. Once the pads go on the real football players shine.

  • Play Nice Herriman, UT
    July 21, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Five foot eight inches tall. This sounds like another just adequate, short athlete that has in the past typically left the cougars wishing they had recruited more height along with their athleticism.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 21, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    Love skiing--

    "Good luck in your choice of school. Ignore the haters, they will always be around.

    Utah fan here. Good luck, except against Utah."

    Debating the level of competition this kid's in fact qualified for hardly equates to being, "haters"!

    If you wish to see haters at work, just simply venture over to Donovan Isom's article!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 21, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    cougars1--

    "AZUTE,
    Trying to pass off your thought process as mine isn't going to work. I never said this kid could play in the PAC. In fact, I never said he could play anywhere. I was simply making the point that his height alone would not keep him from playing in the PAC."

    Yet, you didn't say otherwise, either. Perspective's statement certainly implied it was well beyond just simply height, but then you offered up no clarification w/in your response, but rather indicated the complete opposite--

    "I disagree and so does USC. They have on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1"."

    Finally, you only referenced the top PAC-12 teams which are clearly incomparable at this point to UTAH and the other conference members in overall recruiting and, consequently, even significantly less comparable to a team such as 2-Star byu, which has been forced in recent years to focus their sights predominately more and more on 2-Star recruits, such as this kid out of Raleigh!

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 21, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    Does anyone know how many stars this recruit has?

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 21, 2013 9:13 a.m.

    ekute,
    In your rant about BYU basketball you forgot to mention that they beat Utah. But then who hasn't beaten Utah?

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    July 21, 2013 8:15 a.m.

    All of the talk--mostly from jealous Uyah fans--about the importance of size in a defensive back, seem to overlook the speed and "hops" of this guy. 4.43 speed is world-class at any level and a 38" verticle adds true playing height to a 5'10" defensive back frame. Besides, he is only a high school junior and will probably grow more. Weight training will add an additional twenty pounds. Give me a 5'10", 190 lb. defensive back who can run a 4.43 forty and who is a "gamer" any day. Welcome, Michael, to a very special place and to a great football tradition.

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    July 21, 2013 7:50 a.m.

    ekute

    If you will read the article carefully, you will note that it is about football, though Shelton would probably improve the Utah basketball team as well.

  • Love skiing Salt Lake City, UT
    July 21, 2013 5:26 a.m.

    Good luck in your choice of school. Ignore the haters, they will always be around.

    Utah fan here. Good luck, except against Utah.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 21, 2013 3:28 a.m.

    Barnbug1--

    "How crazy is it that a young man on one of the greatest days of his life can go to a web article about his commitment and get trashed by adults who ought to know better. Chris, how many stars does it take to sit in front of a computer screen and trash a young man you don't even know? I'm as guilty as anyone with the my dad can beat up your dad stuff, but about the SCHOOLS, not the kids. As adults we ought to know where to draw the line, but it seems that we have some 1 star posters that haven't figured that out yet."

    You must've missed it! Go check out the recently posted article on The U's latest commitment, Donovan Isom, and when you're witnessing this identical viewpoint from across the table, please also note one of my earlier comments on it in direct comparison to yours right here!

    Furthermore, people aren't directly insulting this kid, personally, such as his character, merely debating/refuting facts such as his diminutive height relative to successfully playing D-1 College Football, particularly with his non McCain-like speed....Again, facts!

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    July 21, 2013 2:23 a.m.

    "I guess I would have to ask if USC's shorter dbs actually see playing time as dbs or are they merely "on the roster" as you point out. "

    Perspective,
    What difference does it make? Obviously USC's coaches thought they were capable of playing in the PAC or they never would have recruited them. Or are you trying to tell us that you are smarter than the coaches at USC?

    "Additionally, I'll be very curious to see if Utah actually recruited him or if B. Gourney slipped that in there to make byu fans feel good."

    Wow. Conspiracy theorists are alive and well at the U. Keep those comments coming. Very amusing indeed.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    July 21, 2013 1:56 a.m.

    "On the contrary, as I so eloquently illustrated. Height, alone, is meaningless, yet you attempted to pass off CBs in an Elite program such as USCs as being the equal of this kid out of Raleigh, based solely upon their comparable height. B. McCain, as well!"

    AZUTE,
    Trying to pass off your thought process as mine isn't going to work. I never said this kid could play in the PAC. In fact, I never said he could play anywhere. I was simply making the point that his height alone would not keep him from playing in the PAC. Is he fast enough or athletic enough? I have no clue since all I have to go from is a highlight video. But once again, thank you for helping me make the point that "short" DBs can play in the PAC.

    As for the reference to UCLA and USC, they just happened to be the first school's rosters I looked at. I also checked Oregon, who also has "short" DBs. You should try not to read into peoples comments as much as you do and just take them at face value.

  • Barnbug1 SPANISH FORK, UT
    July 20, 2013 11:31 p.m.

    How crazy is it that a young man on one of the greatest days of his life can go to a web article about his commitment and get trashed by adults who ought to know better. Chris, how many stars does it take to sit in front of a computer screen and trash a young man you don't even know? I'm as guilty as anyone with the my dad can beat up your dad stuff, but about the SCHOOLS, not the kids. As adults we ought to know where to draw the line, but it seems that we have some 1 star posters that haven't figured that out yet.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 20, 2013 11:12 p.m.

    Chrissy - just to put the record straight, there are more 3 stars in the NFL than 4 or 5 stars. Please do your homework before you post.

    Who would U rather have, your four star Terrell Reese or one star Eric Weddle?

    Or how about four star Kenneth Scott versus one star Cody Hoffman. Scott's not bad, but he's not a Cody Hoffman.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 20, 2013 10:51 p.m.

    Cougars1--

    "Great job AZUTE,

    Now why don't you tell us how many stars they all had, and while you're at it, give us the run down on the 5'7" and 5'8" corner backs on UCLA's roster. All you did was just enforce my point that size has nothing to do with whether or not you can play db in the PAC. Thank you for doing the research to back me up. You're an ok dude."

    On the contrary, as I so eloquently illustrated. Height, alone, is meaningless, yet you attempted to pass off CBs in an Elite program such as USCs as being the equal of this kid out of Raleigh, based solely upon their comparable height. B. McCain, as well!

    Nothing personal against this kid, but his type of talent wouldn't ever even remotely be on the radar of a USC-type school, thus the reference to USC doesn't compute. Neither would a reference to UCLA. I haven't seen Auburn, North Carolina, Duke nor UTAH listed anywhere, as well!

    However, fellow Indy's, Idaho/NMSU, would most certainly be apropos!

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    July 20, 2013 10:37 p.m.

    Chris B will become very quiet once BYU does their thing with the U this year.

    BYU is very good at finding athletes who are overlooked by other teams. Cody Hoffman is just one example. Just because nobody noticed Michael Shelton means only that nobody noticed him. But he was noticed by many other schools.

    Welcome to the Y Michael. You will love it there and Cougar Nation will love watching you play.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    July 20, 2013 10:20 p.m.

    Great job AZUTE,

    Now why don't you tell us how many stars they all had, and while you're at it, give us the run down on the 5'7" and 5'8" corner backs on UCLA's roster. All you did was just enforce my point that size has nothing to do with whether or not you can play db in the PAC. Thank you for doing the research to back me up. You're an ok dude.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 20, 2013 9:57 p.m.

    cougars1--

    [Cont'd]

    5'10"--

    High School: His 2010 honors included UnderArmour All-American, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, All-Cif Central Division, All-Southern Section first team, All-Inland Empire first team and All-Inland Valley League first team as a senior defensive back at Rancho Verde High in Moreno Valley (Calif.). Rancho Verde went 12-1 in 2010 and was a Cif Central Division finalist.

    He won the inaugural 2010 Sparq Rating National Championship, which tests speed, power, agility, reaction and quickness.

    5'11"--

    High School: His 2012 honors included Prep Star All-American Dream Team, Espn 150, Rivals 100, Orange County Register Fab 15 first team, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100 and All-CIF Inland Division as a senior cornerback and wide receiver in 2012 at Rancho Cucamonga (Calif.) High, which went 10-3. He had 56 tackles, 2 interceptions, 6 deflections, 1 forced fumble and 1 blocked field goal on defense in 2012 and 14 receptions for 193 yards (13.8 avg.) with 2 TDs on offense.

    As a 2011 junior, he made All-Cif Inland Division as he had 32 tackles and 2 interceptions.

  • BYU Fan in DC Washington, DC
    July 20, 2013 9:50 p.m.

    Can I remind all you Ute fans that this kid just finished his junior year? That means he has a whole other season to gain some interest. I am really excited to see Shelton and Dye run back kicks for the next couple several years. I really really hope he runs one back against the Utes.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 20, 2013 9:40 p.m.

    cougars1--

    "I disagree and so does USC. They have on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1"."

    5'9" CB--

    HIGH SCHOOL: His 2009 honors included Prep Star All-American, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, Max Preps All-State Division I first team, Cal-Hi Sports All-State third team, All-CIF Eastern Division first team, Riverside Press-Enterprise All-Riverside second team and Inland Valley Daily Bulletin All-Inland Valley MVP as a senior running back and defensive back at Kaiser High in Fontana (Calif.). He had 1,681 yards on 198 carries (8.5 avg.) on offense and had 55 tackles and 1 interception on defense in 2009.

    As a junior in 2008, he made Riverside Press-Enterprise All-Riverside honorable mention. He ran for 1,010 yards and 11 TDs on offense and had 48 tackles and 3 interceptions on defense in 2008.

    [Cont'd]

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 9:39 p.m.

    Cougars1

    USC has "on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1". I was not aware of that. Most receivers in the Pac-12 present match up problems with shorter dbs. I guess I would have to ask if USC's shorter dbs actually see playing time as dbs or are they merely "on the roster" as you point out.

    At any rate, it will be interesting to see how he is rated once the services catch up with him. Additionally, I'll be very curious to see if Utah actually recruited him or if B. Gourney slipped that in there to make byu fans feel good. My understanding is that NC is not where Utah typically recruits but then, I was surprised to learn they picked up a player from Louisiana, LOL! Time will tell.

    btw,you're correct, Bryce McCain was smaller but he ran a 4.28.

    Congrats again to byu!

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    July 20, 2013 8:48 p.m.

    "As a DB? No way...not in the Pac-12. Evan at 5"10' Shelton would be completely ineffective as a db position in the Pac-12. "

    Perspective,
    I disagree and so does USC. They have on their roster corner backs who are 5'9", 5'10", and 5'11", and their tallest is 6'1".

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    July 20, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    Rational,
    College coaches ask for a highlight film and one complete game film, and they tell players to make sure they pick their best game. Wasn't the great Bryce McCain 5'9"? His speed and vert will compensate for some lack of height.

    Who knows how his game will translate from hs to college, but it is nice to see that he has the right attitude.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    July 20, 2013 8:20 p.m.

    Congrats to Michael. Good luck to him in Provo!

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    July 20, 2013 8:13 p.m.

    Utes WR's

    5'10=2
    5'11=1
    6'1=2
    6'3=3
    6'4=1

    All 8 are 2" taller than Shelton...hope he has hops!!!

  • kat Ogden, UT
    July 20, 2013 7:25 p.m.

    Chris
    And Peterson disagrees with Saban!

  • Atrix Vancouver, WA
    July 20, 2013 7:09 p.m.

    "Rational"

    Brian Logan played corner for BYU at only 5'6. Sure he got burned by some taller guys but wound up being an All-American honorable mention if I remember right. If the defense plays the right way 5'8 won't matter. Just look at all the 5'8 corners in the NFL, there are a ton of them.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    Congratulations to Shelton! He's obviously thrilled with the opportunity to play at byu and it looks like byu has picked up a great kid and a very capable football player. From watching the video it looks like Shelton's high school team uses him not only as a db but on special teams and as a receiver. He does it all...congratulations to byu.

    There's no indication from these comments that anyone noticed the beginning of the video...Shelton is actually 5'10", not 5'8" as B. Gourney reported here. As for Utah's alleged interest in Shelton, I can certainly see Utah going after him as a receiver and possibly special teams. Time and time again Jeremy Brooks proved the value of a smaller receiver underneath coverage. The Utes' current version of Brooks is Delshawn McClelland. Great hands, elusive, exceptionally fast. It may well be that what was in play for Utah. As a DB? No way...not in the Pac-12. Evan at 5"10' Shelton would be completely ineffective as a db position in the Pac-12.

    It would be nice to know where B. Gourney got his information.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    As a return man, he runs well north/south, not wasting a lot of time juking in place. In coverage, he is in position and also gets up field in run support, though I didn't see a single good block put on him by a receiver. Thing is, this is a highlight reel. What happens when a bigger receiver puts a block on him? I'll give the coaches the benefit of a doubt that they've seen complete games either in person or on tape.

    However, if he is 5'8" all the speed, hops, heart in the world doesn't erase that fact. In football, size does indeed matter. The 300 lb guys in college can do what the 210 lb guys do in high school, the 240 lb guys do what the 160 lb guys did in high school, and the 6'3" guys do what the 5'8" guys did in high school. BYU's wideouts are 6'3", 6'3" and 6.6". Tight ends are bigger still. I'm hoping he is the 5'10" claimed on the video.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 20, 2013 6:42 p.m.

    @ekute...

    I can't believe a Utah fan even wants to talk about Basketball... Over the past 7 years your team is 1-11 and that one win that they have on their home floor was in OT a few years back...

    In the last 2 years the Utes have lost to some Baptist Division II school from Texas and to the Sacramento State Hornets who just recently became Division I...And they lost on their home floor.

    That's embarrassing by anybody's standards...

    That little conference that BYU belongs to has a team in it that is continually in the top 10 and was Number 1 for several weeks last year... In the round of 32 in the tournament they had a flat night against an 8 or 9 seed which ended up going to the Final Four and giving the National Champions the toughest game they had in the entire Tourney...

    BYU by any standard has recruited very well in 2013 and 2014 and they will return to the NCAA Tourney next year for their 7th appearance in the last 8 years... Last year they made it to the Final 4 in the NIT and lost to the Champs.

  • Atrix Vancouver, WA
    July 20, 2013 6:37 p.m.

    It's funny watching all the Ute fans bash on BYU. As a BYU fan I could care less about stars or which schools recruited him. Life is about more than football and BYU provides things that you can't get anywhere else. The fact the BYU still wins ball games, and goes to a Bowl year after year unlike Utah, that is pretty cool. That fact the BYU does more with less shows volumes about the program and what the University can accomplish. Sure, Utah puts more kids in the NFL, what has that ever done to make the world a better place?

  • Mark321 Las Vegas, NV
    July 20, 2013 6:33 p.m.

    @ ekute

    "byu is just an average basketball team in one of the smallest conferences on the planet."

    As a BYU fan, I'm not going to go out on a limb and say BYU is a great basketball program, but average basketball teams don't win 24+ games a year in the past 6-7 years and most of that time was in the Mountain West. I'd say BYU is a solid basketball team. Joe Lunardi expects BYU to be in the tournament as a 10 seed in the latest bracketology. And the WCC is for sure a 2 bid league and BYU and Gonzaga will be 1 and 2 (or reverse) in that league this year, a 3 bid league in good years. Also, if according to you BYU basketball is average I would hate to see how Utah basketball would be rated.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 20, 2013 6:27 p.m.

    The article says "Shelton was recruited by UTAH, Auburn, Duke, Georgia Tech and Oregon State, among others."

    Chris B, The word "recruited" doesn't have a definition in any dictionary that even comes close to "may have taken a look at him"...

    Utah would take him tomorrow, but he's not interested in wearing Red and going to play for a team that looks to continue to be a basement dweller in their conference... He wants the opportunity to play the Notre Dames, the Wisconsins, the Longhorns,and the Broncos every year, to travel across the country, and to play on TV every week... Most of all he wants a program with a coach that says what he means and does what he says, and a University with high standards and moral values and that is why he jumped at the chance to be a cougar...

    It's because of this type of recruiting that BYU is continually rated in preseason power rankings above their little brother on the hill and it's because of recruits like this that BYU has the earned reputation nationally of being a perenial football power.

  • Cougsrock original Maricopa, Az
    July 20, 2013 6:26 p.m.

    Chris B. And yet the Utes are still PAC 12 bottom feeders. Good luck with the star thing.

  • canadiancougar624 Provo, UT
    July 20, 2013 6:13 p.m.

    Looks like a good athlete. The fact that he's a two time Junior Olympian can back that up!

    Go Cougs!

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 20, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    raw,

    byu is just an average basketball team in one of the smallest conferences on the planet.
    Went 1 and out in their tournament. Failed to qualify for the NCAA's. Expect the same next year.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    July 20, 2013 5:15 p.m.

    I thougth I was commenting on an article about BYU but can only see comments from utes. Whats up with that? Oh, yes, that's right, it's Saturday; most of them are out actually working.

    Chris B. Seriously, do you have a job or anything; or do you sit in your parent's basement all day slinging insults at all things BYU?

    And to keep the DN sensor guys happy, and to stay on topic: A player's star rating is subjective. It can't predict actual outcomes.

    Ever hear of a guy name Eric Weddell? I don't believe he had a lot of stars (if any), but hey, coaches at the U rolled the dice on him. The rest is history.

    But therein is how your scale works. It doesn't matter (stars or no stars) if a player is coming to the U intead of BYU.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    July 20, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    Gotta love the jealous avalanche of denial from the kids on the hill.

    Another recruit that the Utes desperately wanted until the moment he committed to BYU.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    July 20, 2013 4:37 p.m.

    Chris B,

    So explain to me how a 3 star QB came into the SEC as a RS Freshman and broke multiple records on his way to the heisman trophy? How could a 3-star athlete possibly do what the 5 stars couldn't? Recruiting rankings have only been around just over a decade, but it is clear that the number of stars next to a name makes no difference.
    Infact Tim Teabow is the only consensus 5 star recruit to win the heisman. And he has been a dud in the pros.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 20, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    Nice get byu.
    Nobody that is Anybody wants him.
    Just like the team he committed to.
    lol.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    July 20, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    Welcome aboard Michael!

    I see that you're already making the crowd up north nervous, which is always a good thing.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    July 20, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    Obviously none of you watched his highlights. This kid has elite speed, and great instincts. He is a ballhawk with multiple Int's, and a big hitter. The only recruiting service he is listed in is scout. But that really means nothing. My neighbors son does not have a profile with any recruiting service period, but after a strong showing at the All-poly and UofU elite invitational the Utes offered him a scholarship. there are more important things than the amount of stars next to an athletes name. its all about attitude and willingness to work your butt off.

    Hopefully Michael can come in and make an impact in the secondary.

  • Barnbug1 SPANISH FORK, UT
    July 20, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    For all you Utah fans infatuated with everything BYU, you've got about 8 weeks to gloat. Have your fun now because the utes are about to receive gut stomping.
    And why no smack on the basketball articles?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    So zero bcs offers?

    Byu fans again not answering the question

    Speaks volumes!

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 20, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    I see my little sister is throwing another one of her temper tantrums because hardly any of our 4- and 5-star recruits have been nominated for post season awards. That's particularly galling, since I've heard that you only have to be in the top 70 or so at your position in the country in order to be nominated. Sure wish we had a national recruiting presence so we could pick some quality recruits like Michael Shelton.

  • Max-was-right springville, UT
    July 20, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    Howard, go ask coach Whitt about this young man, he was recruiting him.

    He really want to play at the U, but decided that playing in a bowl game each year is a little more important than being on a pac ten punching bag

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 20, 2013 3:33 p.m.

    Surprise!

    I wonder if Auburn, Duke, Georgia Tech, Oregon State, and others are as surprised as Utah. Couldn't find his name of any recruiting sites as having an offer from any other school than BYU. In fact, only scouts identified him with no other information other than receiving an offer from BYU.

    He may have read an article in a local newspaper with a mention of these schools and he interpreted that as those schools having an interest in him. Or maybe it was suggested by an anonymous source that it would look really good if he had been recruited by such schools. No matter, somehow Utah will recover from this set-back I'm certain.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    July 20, 2013 3:26 p.m.

    Funny...the kid used to be 5'10 when he was recruited by Utah. Did he shrink by signing with BYU?

    That was a fun highlight reel. He probably starts right off on special teams while playing back up on D. He appears to be a speedster with strong hops. He also wants to be at BYU. He should be a great fit for the cougars.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 20, 2013 3:05 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    It seems odd that Shelton was desired by so many schools without being profiled on any of the major recruiting sites.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    July 20, 2013 2:29 p.m.

    He looks like a good addition to the defense.

    Ps If you pay attention to Chris B, Michael Shelton must be a 3 star or higher recruit since Utah recruited him as well. LOL

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 20, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    No idea how good the kid will be but it is great to know how much he wants to be at BYU. We'll look forward to seeing how he progresses and it sounds like he was desired by a good group of schools.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 20, 2013 2:19 p.m.

    I can't find any information about Shelton on any of the major recruiting websites.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    So does he have any bcs offers?

    The article mentions schools that may have taken a look at him, but did any of the 50 bcs schools deem him worthy of an offer?

    Again I don't know, just asking.

    All I know is rivals doesn't even know who he is.

    I found someone by that name who played several years ago

    I will go out on a limb and guess since he wants to attend byu that he is a one or two star?

    And if you think stars don't matter, nick Saban disagrees with you

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    5'8"? A good fisher would throw him back. 0% chance of him going pro unless he is the greatest return man in the country.